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The truth is that we do pay for roads and at a level that is commensurate with the amount of wear we are responsible for.
Gas and use taxes do not cover the cost of building and maintaining highways. I posted a link earlier that shows how much of each state's use fees/fuel taxes cover. In total it's about 50%. Much of the other 50% comes from the general fund that my income taxes go to. County and local roads are funded heavily through property taxes and ad valorem taxes. And I just posted how my state funds it's roads, including county and city. No where NEAR 50% is from the general fund. And how much of the road funds are diverted off for bike paths? In the metro area it's 12% of the road budget. How much do bicyclist's fees and taxes pay for that? Zero. lolololol Copy and paste into your browser, then weep. https://www.oregon.gov/odot/TAP/Documents/2019%20Annual%20Legislative%20Report%20-%20Authorized%20use%20of%20Oregon%20County%20Road%20Funds%20(ORS%20366.774).pdf COUNTY ROAD FUNDS REVENUES July 1, 2018, to June 30, 2019 LOCAL GOVERNMENT REVENUE Property Taxes $13,533,417 County General Fund $53,794,559 Local Vehicle Registration & Gasoline Taxes $28,026,555 Interest Income $18,533,887 Development Fees $16,087,722 Other Local Receipts $35,614,270 Bond & Note Proceeds $7,469,649 $173,060,059 3 2019 Annual Report to the Legislative Assembly Authorized Use of Allocation to Counties (ORS 366.774) COUNTY ROAD FUNDS REVENUES July 1, 2018, to June 30, 2019 LOCAL GOVERNMENT REVENUE Property Taxes $13,533,417 County General Fund $53,794,559 Local Vehicle Registration & Gasoline Taxes $28,026,555 Interest Income $18,533,887 Development Fees $16,087,722 Other Local Receipts $35,614,270 Bond & Note Proceeds $7,469,649 $173,060,059 STATE GOVERNMENT REVENUE State Highway Fund $315,719,093 ODOT Fund Exchange Program $11,580,504 Other State Funds $16,544,916 $343,844,513 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT REVENUE US Forest Service Annual Distribution $32,049,416 Disaster Relief Funding $2,889,512 Other Federal $18,962,756 $53,901684 TOTAL ROAD FUNDS REVENUE Local $173,060,059 State $343,844,513 Federal $53,901,684 $570,806,256 Looking at the funding it looks like right around 70% of the state's county's road funds come from vehicular taxes and fees. Well, that leaves 30% which is a far cry from the "zero" figure you used. I said that bicycle taxes and fees paid for zero of the bike paths. Again don't be obtuse.
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The tax on gasoline falls way short of being able to fully fund state end federal roadways. I don't know if it falls short or the money is poorly managed the government. CDOT is notorious for mismanagement of tax money, seems they are always getting a new fleet of vehicles or more upper management. Now they are mandated to go to zero emmision vehicles by the State. Plus the new "fee" the State added to fuel prices is solely to add infrastructure (charging stations) for EV vehicles. The point was that the cyclists do pay for the roads. Bull [bleep]
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The tax on gasoline falls way short of being able to fully fund state end federal roadways. I don't know if it falls short or the money is poorly managed the government. CDOT is notorious for mismanagement of tax money, seems they are always getting a new fleet of vehicles or more upper management. Now they are mandated to go to zero emmision vehicles by the State. Plus the new "fee" the State added to fuel prices is solely to add infrastructure (charging stations) for EV vehicles. The point was that the cyclists do pay for the roads. Bull [bleep] I have posted half a dozen links demonstrating that I am right, and you come in with a "nuh-uh." Brilliant!
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This entire thread inspires me to abuse roadway bicycle riders.
Padded VA Hospital Rooms for $1000 Alex My ignoree,s will never be Rock Stars on 24 hr campfire.....Like me!!!! What are psychotic puppet hunters?
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What’s that got to do with a wheel tax paying for Bike lanes on public roads?
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This entire thread inspires me to abuse roadway bicycle riders. Outstanding!
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Love the thread!
Great for enabling complete whackjob fucqkfaces to out themselves.
Do you mentally retarded dumbfucqks also get worked-up when you’re “inconvenienced” by a slow senior driver on the road?. Absophuginlutely.
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Do you like flinging [bleep] into a fan until you realize that the fan is turned in the wrong direction?
It's official. I missed the selfie deadline so I'm Maser's sock puppet because rene and the Polish half of the fubar twins have decided that I am.
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What’s that got to do with a wheel tax paying for public roads? What?? An article from a bicycle magazine based in Portland Oregon doesn't instill confidence?!
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They don't stop at ANY stop signs that I've seen, unless its a ten year old kid...
Equating an 80 year old driver and their limits and someone who should know better pretty much sums up the modern day bicyclist and their ways of rationalizing why someone shouldn't run their ass over without a thought....
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Retards riding bicycles on a road.
Pit bull rescue nanny dogs.
Do we all agree equally bad ideas?
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This entire thread inspires me to abuse roadway bicycle riders. Outstanding! Never even considered it before Paul showed us why and the meaning involved. Now it seems it could bring joy and satisfaction in ways I've never considered, thanks Paul.
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Paul goes out for a ride, chafes his taint, and comes back here to stir schit up.
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This entire thread inspires me to abuse roadway bicycle riders. Outstanding! Never even considered it before Paul showed us why and the meaning involved. Now it seems it could bring joy and satisfaction in ways I've never considered, thanks Paul. lololol. I would say "anything for you Sparky" but I don't want Flave to get jealous.
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Paul goes out for a ride, chafes his taint, and comes back here to stir schit up.
😂 Pure bitch......lol
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Paul goes out for a ride, chafes his taint, and comes back here to stir schit up.
😂 Pure bitch......lol Double lol
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The tax on gasoline falls way short of being able to fully fund state end federal roadways. I don't know if it falls short or the money is poorly managed the government. CDOT is notorious for mismanagement of tax money, seems they are always getting a new fleet of vehicles or more upper management. Now they are mandated to go to zero emmision vehicles by the State. Plus the new "fee" the State added to fuel prices is solely to add infrastructure (charging stations) for EV vehicles. The point was that the cyclists do pay for the roads. Bull [bleep] I have posted half a dozen links demonstrating that I am right, and you come in with a "nuh-uh." Brilliant! What a piece of compost you should be. I have a 16 mile blacktop road to get into town they is called the old Burlington road that is covered with cyclists all summer. Most respect vehicle traffic but some like you want to pull some crap
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Around here tax dollars donations grants pay for lots of bicycle trails and such. Haul your f****** bicycle to one of them trails and stay the [bleep] f*** off the road scrawny ass f****** [bleep] losers
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Where's the video of asswholes throwing trash at farmer or an 80 year old driver?
There isn't one, for reasons obvious to anyone who doesn't ride a bike on the fugging highway....but I'm sure the asswholes arrived to their behavior without any reason.
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