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Now they are saying that there was no SRO there and there wasn't any shots exchanged before the shooter entered the school, even though Gov Abbott said there was. And, the press conference that just concluded said that there were Federal Marshalls there that detained and handcuffed parents. Very odd to me that Federal Marshalls were on scene before they even got the guy stopped. I never trust information in the early stages of incidents like this.
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ANY man that doesn’t run towards the sounds of children being murdered isn’t fit to call himself a man. Yup
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ANY man that doesn’t run towards the sounds of children being murdered isn’t fit to call himself a man. Yup +100.
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
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Now they are saying that there was no SRO there and there wasn't any shots exchanged before the shooter entered the school, even though Gov Abbott said there was. And, the press conference that just concluded said that there were Federal Marshalls there that detained and handcuffed parents. Very odd to me that Federal Marshalls were on scene before they even got the guy stopped. I never trust information in the early stages of incidents like this. Never stops anyone else. Ridiculous some of the shît that gets posted from 3rd, 4th,5th hand accounts from social media.
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This whole thing is starting to stink . Will we be told the truth ?
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ANY man that doesn’t run towards the sounds of children being murdered isn’t fit to call himself a man. Yup +100. I agree !
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One thing is sure. If there was wrongdoing they will investigate themselves and the government will be certain to tell us everything.
*Heavy sarcasm for the slow*
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This whole thing is starting to stink . Will we be told the truth ? If it happened in PA, judging by the last election, I doubt it. I do think we'll get a detailed accurate as can be report on this though.. Unlike the Las Vegas shooting, where nobody knows what happened yet.
Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
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It has been established that there was no car chase as earlier reported. The perp wrecked his grandmother's truck near the school and proceeded on foot to a back door at the school which was unlocked.
The SRO, who had gone to investigate the crash, actually followed the perp into the school and engaged him (no shots fired at that time per DPS director @ 43:18 in video) but the perp gained entrance, entered two class rooms and began firing immediately.
Uvalde police and Uvalde School Dist. Police officers arrived and engaged the shooter in under 5 minutes according to DPS Director McCraw (26:00 in video).
I believe the 40 minute time line was when the CBP swat team engaged/shot the shooter. Couldn't hear the question but believe that is what Dir. McCraw indicated @ 42:37. A CBP official following Dir. MCraw stated that CBP has a large presence in Uvalde and that some 80 CBP agents responded to the call from their headquarters, the field etc.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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Now they are saying that there was no SRO there and there wasn't any shots exchanged before the shooter entered the school, even though Gov Abbott said there was. And, the press conference that just concluded said that there were Federal Marshalls there that detained and handcuffed parents. Very odd to me that Federal Marshalls were on scene before they even got the guy stopped. I never trust information in the early stages of incidents like this. You are a wise man.
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This whole thing is starting to stink . Will we be told the truth ? Absolutely not.
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Yes the CPB SWAT team took care of the problem, and it took them only 52 minutes. When seconds count, 911 will solve your problem in 52 minutes.
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[bleep] unreal.
Leo went in 4 min after gunman then came out and waited an hour before going in. They were waiting for more backup, optical equipment and NEGOTIATORS.
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A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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A few local cops went in right away, exchanged shots and got wounded, then fell back and called for reinforcements. Then, the law guys waited an hour for the SWAT team to show up and kill the guy. Local cops in Uvalde don't have body armor or ARs?
Go hole up with your fellow police union buddies, while you listen to the sound of children being slaughtered?
Well, at least these officers went home at the end of their shift.
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This whole thing is starting to stink . Will we be told the truth ? Absolutely not. Its beginning to sound like LEO was doing all they could to let the killer kill until he ran out of ammo. So, did a LEO acquaintance go in under a pre planned agreement with the shooter to do a planned arrest and then took out the shooter to get rid of the last witness? I thought Columbine made law enforcement agencies agree the best course of action is to go after the shooter immediately.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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Are you being obtuse or stupid? The shooter was pinned down by the first officers in (in less than five minutes) and had bunkered up.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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A few local cops went in right away, exchanged shots and got wounded, then fell back and called for reinforcements. Then, the law guys waited an hour for the SWAT team to show up and kill the guy. Local cops in Uvalde don't have body armor or ARs?
Go hole up with your fellow police union buddies, while you listen to the sound of children being slaughtered?
Well, at least these officers went home at the end of their shift. When is the last time you entered a building to confront an armed foe, got wounded, and stayed in the fight? I'm guessing you are a high-speed retired SF guy that's booted more than a few doors in your day...
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A boy and his friends ‘hiding as hard as they could’ under a tablecloth just feet away from the gunman.
A little girl reportedly smearing her deceased friend’s blood on herself and playing dead.
I hope they can recover from this.
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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A boy and his friends ‘hiding as hard as they could’ under a tablecloth just feet away from the gunman.
A little girl reportedly smearing her deceased friend’s blood on herself and playing dead.
I hope they can recover from this. That can't be, we've already been informed ALL the kids in that room were killed in the first two minutes by a guy with inside information.
Padded VA Hospital Rooms for $1000 Alex My ignoree,s will never be Rock Stars on 24 hr campfire.....Like me!!!! What are psychotic puppet hunters?
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ANY man that doesn’t run towards the sounds of children being murdered isn’t fit to call himself a man. Any human. Just heard the story of the mother who was stopped, handcuffed, later uncuffed, scaled a fence and ran in and grabbed her children while this was still happening. Parents prevented from storming the school. Waiting to pass judgement as I haven't been able to follow it much, but it all doesn't sound good. Local PD on site and BP were the ones that went in and settled it? Can't imagine someone so chickenchit as to sit outside while kids are being murdered, waiting for a tactical team to arrive. You have a badge and a gun, grab as many of your fellow officers as you can, and get your azz in there immediately. Never thought we'd see that level of cowardice again after Sandy Hook. But here we apparently may be again. If true, every one of them scared into inaction either by fear of death or fear of reprisals from command need to be fired immediately, then taken out back and let the parents of the slaughtered and survived children have a go at them. Fuggin' infuriating to me.
Guns are responsible for killing as much as Rosie O'Donnel's fork is responsible for her being FAT.
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