2 kids dead. Elementary school.

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/202...-uvalde-elementary-school-district-says/

Here we go , ...............

Right on cue

Got a few in-laws down there. No kids. Uvalde is mainly Hispanic.

More kids reported dead now.

Fox says a news conference soon ..............

Uvalde, Texas school shooting: 2 dead, multiple children hospitalized

https://www.foxnews.com/us/uvalde-texas-robb-elementary-school-active-shooter

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“The Texas Department of Public Safety and Uvalde Mayor Don McLaughlin told Fox News that one person has been shot and the shooter – who ran to Robb Elementary School – had become barricaded inside. Uvalde Memorial Hospital confirmed that two people were brought to the hospital deceased. “

TX DPS not mentioning any deceased children.

I was born there. Paternal Grandparents are buried there but as far as I know my cousins don't live there.

Truly awful plus the suspect is not dead.

News conference? Is that what they're calling it now?

#myass

A contact of mine has family down there, 2 grandkids that went to that school last year. Her report was 11 fatalities, 33 kids and 6 adults wounded. Shooter killed his mother, a 4th grade teacher. Who knows if this information is anywhere near correct. I guess time will tell if it is or not.

Shooter in custody about 1pm today.

That sure happens a lot in these instances now.

Will the shooter be "known to law enforcement?"

I sure hope it's not that bad.

SOB.

We have known for a while they are going to.have to get serious about protecting the schools.

Im thinking this will get something done.

I wouldnt be too surprised to see more incidents like this before something does get done, however.

Fughking Dimocommies are getting desperate. They have to strike while the iron is hot. They wont be able to after Nov.

Hispanic shooter deceased. Per Gov. Abbott. On NBC

Prolly.. But be sure to defund the police.

Damn, just damn.

Just stated that there is possibility that this started elsewhere with LEO and it ended up at the school. Nothing definite.

Better get rid of guns and raise taxes.

Talking head said earlier Border Patrol was after him,

The shooter must not have been white! The shooter that killed the 10 people last week had his color announced in the first sentence of the report!

15 dead.

Shooter killed his grandmother before going to the school.

Shooter is dead too.

Shooter Salvador Ramos

Unreal

If he's an illegal - does anyone have the sand to point that out to the coming call for gun control?

One of those brown white supremacists

Fugger!

Hope he burns in hell.

He will

Damn. Sorry SOB

Last name may be Romos or Ramos. Least that’s what I’m hearing.

Ramos




https://en.memesrandom.com/salvador-ramos/

Let's please all take a moment and pray for the little ones and the teacher. May God keep and protect them.

Photo of evil.

Just finished press conference. Nothing mentioned we already didn’t know.

This says it was off campus and one adult so I am assuming attacked a school bus????


https://www.wsbtv.com/news/trending...tive-shooter/4NKOYGYKTBDHRDIHU5DFCJAM54/

Photos of his wrecked pickup before the school shooting tells me he may have been chased by police into the school.

But that's just guessing. Not much info.

He looks like one of those they/them types

I dunno man.

All the cops in live video are AT Robb Elementary School.

Brandon is going to address the nation on this later this evening according to Fox . Cant you just hear it , " No one needs a weapon of war " ...................

Think Ch!mp Chump Crump is one his way to this one ?

That fugger doesn't even know what kind of weapon was used yet.

But it won't matter to him.

He'll say say they tell him to.

Prayers to all of the families.

Mostly this ^^^^

in spades.

Mr Walking History lesson.

Any family history of his in the area? Ramos a pretty common name there? Been there generations?

Irish brown.

Geno,

All they are saying is he was a local kid.

Farming/Ranching community. Very tight knit. I Had a cousin there who was a pretty prominent rancher, but he’s been dead for years. Gov. Briscoe was from Uvalde. As well as John Nance Garner settled and died there. And Dale Evans was born there!!!

Nurture the criminal culture for political means. This is what happens. They’ll blame it on law abiding citizens and olour guaranteed freedoms.

Pat Garrett was a friend of Cactus Jack Garner and Garner got him to a position as a Uvalde County Commissioner. I don't think he stayed long there. He had a meeting with destiny outside Las Cruces to attend.

For those that want to outlaw guns, ask them how in the hell we can keep guns from coming across the southern border if someone wants to smuggle them in.

I've been to the Hatchery there for work. Would not have minded living around that area.

Just wondering as folks start getting upset, if "Hispanic" even enters the equation given the history of the area and the fact in TX "Hispanics" aren't all immigrants, except when using the term as going back before there was a Texas.

If there had been a couple of million acre National Forests or BLM lands in the area, I'd have probably put in for work there. But, I love my Public Lands.

Don't worry. The Democrats are assiduously working on it.

L.W.

Well, if drugs are any barometer...

Let open the border more Joe , you piece of dog excrement!!!!!

Here are some nuggets from DU.

“ When I heard that they shot the gunman, I assumed he wasn't white”

“ I'm sure Republicans are offering prayers of thanksgiving...
…that it turned out it wasn’t a white guy killing Latino children”

“I looked it up
White hispanic“

“ Uvalde, TX | Data USAhttps://datausa.io › profile › geo › uvalde-tx
The 5 largest ethnic groups in Uvalde, TX are White (Hispanic) (78.2%), White (Non-Hispanic) (14%), Other (Hispanic) (4.18%), Asian (Non-Hispanic) (1.37%), “

Barry,

King Fisher ran a toll on “his" road out there west of Uvalde into Maverick county.

Those ignorant bastids are just farting rainbows on each other.

Local "news " people said 18 students 1 possible
school staffer and the shooter deceased
Shooter hispanic, but not specifying if he's a
border jumper or not

Don’t forget this gem

“ Its also 60% republican.”

This kid was probably an American.

So basically, around Uvalde,


if someone farts it's probably a White, Hispanic, Republican fart

So sad to hear. I was born and raised in South Texas. This hurts as bad as other similar events that have happened in the great state of Texas. This is a plague and scourge of this present age. I believe kids should at least have access to farm life where we learn how valuable life is.

https://www.ksl.com/article/50411020/texas-governor-15-killed-in-school-shooting-gunman-dead

😆 Good chance,

It's been years but I would pass through Uvalde occasionally. As a former SRO at a metro high school this is just my observation. The children of America have been passed around like political pawns. More so since Covid. One day they were in school and the next they were out. This uncertainty has been hard on kids. Even more so with kids who have mental health issues. While the kids are out of school just who is monitoring them ? If that person detects some mental health issues in the child, just who is supposed to do something about it ? How much time did they spend alone or with a computer as their baby sitter ?

O'Connor vs Donaldson has tied the hands of community leaders, State legislatures, parents and judges about forcing mentally ill persons to get MANDATED mental help. The school aged kids have become the political toys of the leftist Covid power brokers. I expect more of this. I would suggest that 1 out of every 500 kids has a major mental health issue and they are on the verge of a complete break down. I understand this kid shot his grandmother first before going to the school. That level of determination is off the charts. We had 2 17 year olds murder a teacher 2 months ago in Iowa. They didn't like her because she expected them to work for success in her class. They found her in park while she was taking a walk and beat her to death. O'Connor vs Donaldson was also one of those over reaching decisions from the Earl Warren court.

I truly blame the federal department of education of kowtowing to the leftist educational philosophy that all kids are in need of assistance when in reality all kids need accountability for their behavior and their parents also need to be held accountable as well. Why was this kid in a position to shoot his grandmother first ? Where were his parents and did they participate in his education both in school and out of school ? Did they seek help for any emerging mental health issues as well ?

I guess we will find out soon enough.

kwg

Uvalde is probably over 80% Hispanic.

Evil knows no skin color.

All things aside, I can’t wait to hear the blatherskite from brandon. I will refuse to listen to that bumbling moron

Probably wouldn't be a bad guess for a fart anywhere south of I 20.

Prayers to the families of the victims there. Been to Uvalde several times while down there hunting. Nice town from what I remember.

I will Listen to hear his total hit job on the 2A.

It's not bad.

My youngest brother went to high school there after my dad got a ranch there outside Uvalde.

I did some narcotics work there years ago.

My step brother owns a feed store there and the Oasis Outback, a big hunting/gun store.

Well, in quoting you I found the answer to my question.

Rick's spellchecker program doesn't recognize "blatherskite" any better than it does a simple word like "javelina" .

Every time we get a gun grabbing type president I know they just report more on the shootings but it seems like they actually pick up it really makes you wonder. Sacrificial lambs

I hunted deer and Russian wild hogs on the Morning Star Ranch outside of Uvalde Texas. I killed my first spike buck whitetail deer on that place. I'm not sure if that ranch is still in operation. They were friends of my parents.

Respectfully disagree, Mr. kaywoodie. We need to listen VERY carefully. If you are going to win a battle, you have to know what the enemy is thinking.

That suits and fits Biden to a tee!

Great word, Bob!

Yeah really ............... Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Clearly the answer is to defund the police and make all schools a gun free zone.

Now everyone will feel better.

- Liberals








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Dumbfûck works too.

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Home of the famous Newtons .. bank robbers

I spent a lot of time in Uvalde while driving the 18 wheeler. There was a big blue jean plant there, since closed down. We took blue jean fabric from Blacksburg S. Carolina to the plant in Uvalde. I was there the last time just 3 years ago. Several times I did a 34 hour break in Uvalde, and would spend a day walking around the town. Pretty little Texas town. I was walking around town one day, got to talking with a guy and his mom who were having a yard sale. And they said, "Well you just walked past Matthew McConaughey's house!"

I thought WTF? I said, "Has Matthew McCounaghey bought some real estate here in Uvalde?"

And they said, "Good God! He is from Uvalde! I went to high school with Matthew. I thought everybody knew that."

Looking at the map, this school is 2 blocks away from that plant I spent so much time at.

Is Brandon gonna show up in Texas to mourn in public for these kids, or is that special visit only for black folk?

🦫

Yup. That’s right!! Forgot about the Newton Boys! Last of the train robbers!

I had not even thought about it but yeah , will Brandon show up ? Score some points with the gun grabbers ?

It’s ok Mr. York, I already know what’s been prepared for him to say. 😉. You do too!

That was quite the gossip there!

Even though they put them in the pen for awhile, they never recovered the loot!

If you have to wait to hear what Brandon is going to say you’ve been living in a shoebox for the last 50 years. Brandon is going to say what he’s been saying for the last 50 years.

Waiting for the story to come out.

Pretty much everyone involved was almost certainly Hispanic, including those little kids shot. I live and work in a demographically similar area, race ain’t that big a deal around here.

Shooter could be American-born, a Dreamer or a recent immigrant it wouldn’t matter all that much in South Texas.

Shot his grandmother, somehow engages the Border Patrol, makes the decision to murder peoples’ little children.

What a nightmare for the families 😕

God Bless those poor little children! My only wish is that the shooter was still alive so he could be hung and stoned in the village square.

And marginalize white people too

Exactly. Can’t imagine the pain of those parents

I actually watch that movie on DVD quite often sitting in the gun shop. That's the only reason I really knew this.

Wouldn't count on it.

Terrible tragedy. Taking a wild guess here, the shooter looks like an incel.

Glad they killed him.

Prayers

Very true, Birdy!

A sad day for America. We should all pray for the families.

You guys are so sad. Don’t you think we can do better? At least try.

Do better with what?

Be specific.

We do better? You jackass I am not out there shooting kids. I don't have to do a fugging thing "better".

So I’m sure that this ends up in the rhetorical category. I know a handful or two of people that I would probably have a hard time not smirking if I heard of their demise.

Several of those have tempted my active participation. But you don’t. Even if they really, truly deserve it.

And there are groups of people that it seems the world would be better off if they weren’t here anymore. “Groups” doesn’t mean race or anything specifically.

Some of the high school shooters are bullied relentlessly or have some grievance, which doesn’t justify what they do, but maybe brings some clarity to the motive.

But what on earth would possess anyone to walk into a school and kill a bunch of little kids?

Seems like we have had about 25 million people sized things end up in the country without permission too.

I figure that is some liberal sleeper account. Every time something happens a bunch of low post count with old sign up dates start posting.

How will the left politicize this beyond just a call for a gun grab?

Kamala is doing it right now.

Ron

Yep....
Kameltoe hinting about gun control with innuendo.

I dont post often but Ive been here longer than you have. Same with AR. No screamin liberal. Imagine if you can for a second, it's one of your kids. I think how do we keep guns out of the hands of people that would commit these crimes. And keep guns in the hands or responsible, law abiding, not crazy Americans

Was this a problem when your parents raised you?

If not, think about what has changed.

Ymmv

Let me guess, common sense gun control?

I'm asking you guys. What changes could be made. None? Its a perfect system?

Well there goes their “White Supremest” Narrative.

If this shooter turns out to be a Wetback, Joe Biden owns this. 😡😡😡

The first two thing that get cut any any budget anywhere is education first and mental health second. Until this changes schiit like this is going to continue to happen. No amount of what ifs and maybes is going to fix this.

That's about as fuggin' stupid a call for gun control as I've ever heard.

1) There are 200,000 guns in Uvalde County that weren't used in a school shooting today, or any day.

2) An evil human being committed this crime. He wasn't worried about laws or doing anything illegal. Last I checked, it is illegal to commit murder. It's illegal to shoot your grandmother, and anyone else.

3) Gun laws are only obeyed by the law abiding. That is it. People who do this don't follow the law. No law at all would have stopped this, if he was committed to do so.


You ought to pull your head out of your ass. You may find the breathe of fresh air nice for a change.

Pol is saying he's a Mexican tranny. If true that answers the whole mental health question.

No idea if the pictures they are going off of are actually the shooter, but they've usually been pretty good at the whole ID thing.

So this is acceptable? Just comes with the territory. Part of the cost of gun ownership and the privilege of being American?

Yes, it is acceptable.

We know evil is out there. Evil targets the innocent and easy prey.

Harden the schools. Arm responsible people to stop this before it starts.

It works in church. It can work in schools.

Watch the video.

https://nypost.com/2019/12/29/texas-church-shooting-leaves-2-dead/

Changes? Well they could do what most would call Great research or good police work but liberals call it profiling. Limit weapons to demographic versions that cause the most problems. But how would that go over?

Better ideas and probably start with good responsible parenting and teaching kids correctly. You know there's arguments for the violent video game shouldn't be out there but lots of people playing and don't ever have an issue the ones that do that might blame the game or probably got mental issue anyway. There's no one great answer

It's not a matter of being acceptable. I'm sure none of us would have approved of this psycho's plan had he asked us to approve it beforehand.

If you're asking whether it's part of the tradeoff of living in a country where the government doesn't (yet) control everything that a person does, I would say yes. And I wouldn't have it any other way.

In some countries, the government does the mass killings in large part because the people aren't armed. Is that acceptable? Is that a privilege of being Chinese or Iranian or Korean?

No, the system isn't perfect but all the gun control in the world (including door-to-door confiscation) will not stop crazies from getting and using a gun.

You are both wrong.

This isn't acceptable.

Killing kids or innocents never is.

But to give up our constitutional rights in favor of govt protection is setting yourself and our nation up for mass killing.

Read your history books, people.

Mans laws are nothing when somebody has made the decision to break Gods laws.

There is evil out there.

The only thing to do is shut it down as quick as possible when it shows.

Unfortunately that didnt happen this time.

A free society has risks.

I'm all for hardening the schools. The fact that this person can walk into an elementary school is crazy to me. I've often thought our schools have terrible security. This is good for prevention, doesn't cure the problem. Our president's stopped driving around in open motorcades, times change, and we have to change with the times. SOcial media, we better find a way to profile and prevent. Most of these people post prolifically. There's a couple changes that might help. What else

I’m not wrong. It’s acceptable. I have a kid in high school. It’s an acceptable risk for me. I would rather live in a world where this is a risk than one where it isn’t because freedoms have been abrogated to the point it can’t be done.

Sack up and stop being a mealy mouthed bitch. It’s acceptable. If you say it isn’t, you fall right into their hands. Freedom means bad schit happens sometimes.

Perfect timing, honk for Joey matherfückers 🤡🤡🤡

Or five gallons of gas, a few lengths of chain, and some padlocks. Been done before.

Quit blaming the instrument.

Law abiding citizens shouldn't be punished for the crimes of others.

At this point, the best we can hope for is that the shooter is a wet.

I believe I explained myself above.

And if there's a mealy mouthed bitch present, it is you.

I'm not falling into anyone's hands.

These events may indeed be a by-product of a free nation. I'll fight to the death for our Constitution and 2nd Amendment.

But at no point is killing kids or innocents acceptable.

I counter that when you say it is, your own dumb ass is falling into their hands.

Fuggn leftists murder babies by the millions but cry about gun control.

Has anyone said how he gained entry?
I can’t believe this day in age we have schools with unlocked doors!
Harden these targets we have a tremendous campus here but still we don’t lock the doors.
Sad, praying for the family’s of these baby’s.

Actually, wet, tranny and registered democrat would be the best possible outcome.

We know the shooter is hispanic, how does that help?

It doesn't.

The shooter was EVIL. No matter his skin color.

The only thing that skin color has to do with anything is the democrat and media narrative of blame.

You’ve always been a dumbass. I won’t budge another phuqing inch on a damned thing. No more gun control. No more mental health issues. No more anything.

All of this a contrived bullshit to get the idiots amongst you to say, “We have to do something” and whatever you do be it gun control, mental health screening, extra security or whatever will become the stuff of dystopian nightmares.

The ONLY answer is “Meh…bad schit happens. So what’s your point?”

None of this coincidental and none of it is anything less than one hundred percent contrived. Want proof? Look up the 2017 Hearing Protection Act. It was scheduled for a vote in the summer of 2017. The day it was scheduled for vote the congressional baseball game got shot up. It was rescheduled for October. And a few days before that the Vegas shooting happened. Incredible coincidence.

I’m immune to their bullshit. It has no effect on me. All of this is one hundred percent acceptable verses any of the posed alternatives.

It changes the narrative from angry white guy. Blacks and Hispanics normally get a pass from the media.


This guy was evil and crazy period.

i agree with that. Democrat or Republican

We are loosing our culture. What Christian would murder innocent people? What kind of person would finance a war of genocide for a border invasion in another country while financing one here? What kind of person pretends to be president when the whole nation knows he is not?

We are no longer a predominantly Christian society. Focusing rage at inanimate objects will do nothing to cure the problem. It goes much deeper than that. With every Supreme Court edict that defies the Constitution and our founders intent we turn our backs to God and it’s that much easier to hate, cheat, steal and murder.

We need an Intervention. We need an Exorcism.

"Harden the schools. Arm responsible people to stop this before it starts."

This kid should have been shot dead by a law abiding armed teacher or a law abiding armed staff member as soon as he entered the school. Teachers and staff have the natural right to defend themselves and their students whether somebody thinks they are responsible/qualified or not.

I know a Border Patrolman who works in that sector. I'll try to find out what he knows about this shooting.

Geez check history, more deaths have been caused by religion than anything else. Unless your Jesus, you're human. So called Christians, Muslims, Jews, insert fav religion, have no problem murdering, raping, stealing etc

Been saying it for years myself, and it's 100% true.

You sound like a liberal, even though you say you aren’t.
Drunks kill more people every year than guns, yet it is acceptable to sell alcohol. Abortion kills thousands, if not millions, and that is acceptable. Where do we draw the line? I’m not willing to give ip my rights, just so you can feel better about yourself and society. Let’s put God back in school! Or is that unacceptable?

doesn't matter, odds are most of the victims were too!!

I said the same thing to my wife over dinner. I got choked up thinking about the pain those parents are suffering. The scars the emotional survivors will carry forever. This one truly punched me in the gut.

There is no way that a human can harbor that kind of evil without telegraphing it in some way.

There have always been rapists, murderers, etc posing under the veil of Christianity. It is actually an indictment on mankind. Godless people do Godless things.

Biden will decry the loss of innocents only to turn this tragedy into a political moment. Sad!

Anyone with a scintilla of empathy will feel the pain of the parents and the loss of innocents. Our society is in disarray. Please, all who post here, read these messages, please be safe. Hold your family close. Hope for common sense. MTG

I forgive you for being an Aggie, first off. I lean more left of center these days, thank you Trump. I think there are a lot of americans in the center, left and right of the middle. More than those extreme left and right. I was thinking about your points earlier. Alcohol kills a lot of people, and destroys a lot of lives. Tobacco still kills millions, so where do you draw the line? You have to be at least 21 to buy alcohol and tobacco. Maybe increasing the age of being able to own a firearm. YOu have to take a test to drive a car. Let's leave God out of it, He's not helping

Yeah, I'm a dumbass.

Yet I'm not the one calling for gun control, nor will I ever. Ever. You know that.

At least I'm not chickenshit enough to be a lawyer. LOL.

And I know the difference between a .270 and 30-06

Just don’t get caught up in the bullshit. There is nothing good that can be done. Risk is acceptable. Particularly when these incidents are being literally manufactured to make you decide that it isn’t.

So is risk mitigation.

I'm not caught up in the BS.

All you can do is arm proficient willing people to protect themselves and others against this evil.

That is all.

Actually, more guns are better.

At our grandson's graduation, I asked the school principal if there were any police there, he said no.

Driving a car isn't a constitutional right. Anything you have to say after spouting that is pointless

I’m fine with that.

Godless means leaving God out of it there lefty. Being from MN, most of us had you pegged from the get go.

Should we have to take a test to vote?

For those who love gun laws… they should make murder illegal.
Oopsie… I guess it already is.

Put whatever label on me you want if it helps

You have to be 21 to buy ammo last I checked

My heart goes out to all the families grieving right now.

WTF are you trying to say???

The mental health budgets in all 50 States got decimated after the O'Connor vs Donaldson decision. Mental health facilities across the country got emptied and mental health services across America got slashed. The politicians looked at this as a huge windfall to spend as they wanted on everything EXCEPT mental health services since O'Connor vs Donaldson took away anything more than a 3 day evaluation detention. Only the profoundly mentally ill were kept in confinement and eventually they went to your local nursing homes. The 21st century mental health facility is your local County jail or if they are found capable of standing a trial they might end up in a prison. Many folks commit crimes that will get them locked up and while they are locked up or on probation only then are they required to turn in any firearms.

This kid shot his grandmother first and then went to the school and shot it up. How in the hell are you going to stop that ? The Supreme Court decision did not take anything into consideration other than being mentally ill is not a jailable (or prisonable) offense. The Supremes pretty much equated a mental health facility the same as a prison or jail. Since health records are hidden and so are juvenile offenses we may never really know what this kids past was like from an official or medical stand point. Only witnesses who are not bound by law can speak of his past.

kwg

18 to buy ammo. Interesting debate could be had about earning the right to vote. Found this online: Voting is not an inherent, natural right, it is a privilege we extend to certain citizens. The Founders thought the privilege of voting should only be extended to citizens with “skin in the game” and competent enough to know what they were doing; as evidenced by the ownership of property. Today approximately 40% of Americans pay no income tax. Do they have ““skin in the game?”

Where?

Read he killed his grandmother?

Wondering if this was another absent father kinda thing.

18......any gang associations?

Prev mental health stuff?

18 years old and buys an $1800 DD and $600 sight. I was eating bologna sandwiches at 18.

Regarding ammo I didn't know so I searched it. 21 to buy handgun ammo and 18 rifle and shotgun. That's what I read in a couple places

My heart is broken for the little Texas town I drive through once a year, I've been blessed to meet good people, including the police force, and citizens. I have had nothing but good interactions with the inhabitants of Uvalde. I count it a beautiful place to call home. I cannot wrap my mind around this kind of evil. Though it was my profession to face it here in my homeland. I condemn it. I stand against it. I profess my willingness to die to stop it. I cannot express my sorrow that I had no opportunity to make a difference in this situation. May God bless Uvalde, Texas. May He bless and keep the children who go to school there.

Common knowledge.

Please explain how it is Trump’s fault that you’re a liberal clam.

Yep. Sounds like he sides with the Somalian Allah worshiping Muslim Whore.
About half of Minnysoda is fine with leaving God out of it. 😡

Been a long time since i was 18

Might want to google that. Christians have even killed other Christians for not being the correct type of Christian.

I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess Mean Tweets.
🤪🤪🤪

You’re a plant here to gather inflammatory responses to report back to your masters.

Eat a bag of dicks.

Guys, don't let the sock puppet troll veer this discussion. DO NOT ENGAGE.

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How is it that banks and armored cars are protected by armed guards? But schools are "gun free zones"? Which advertises them as soft targets for psycho pieces of sheet like this fuggin scum bag. What is more precious than our children?

Teachers and administrators need to be carrying. Being Texas I'm surprised there wasn't somebody there that could have stopped it. I'd expect this kind of news coming out of one Libtard states or cities, but not Texas.

Does anyone fear this scenario playing out. Dems control the house and Senate, and President. They enact sweeping, over reaching gun control laws that have far reaching repercussions. Would it be better to have a say in it, on what would really help, before that happens?

You been trolling your bike thread for 25 pages. 🤣🤣🤣

If they got the right guy Pol has pics of him posing in a mini skirt, makeup etc. They seem to think he was a tranny. If that's true that's a definite sign of mental issues considering something like 40% attempt suicide from what I've read..

Stop beating around the bush. Either come out and say it or stop.

What is it you want done that will stop evil people from doing evil things?

Ok nobody wants to engage in meaningful debate, that's the problem in DC. I'm going to sign off for a bit, watch Anderson Cooper before This is Us series finale starts

You can't articulate whatever your point is....

Jackson Handy: I don't know exactly. But I think law abiding gun owners can come up with solutions better than non gun owning, very powerful, congressman and senators. SO be on the right side of this. That's what I believe.

No, that tells us all we need to know.

Nice evasion there.

Laffin.......

So it's you who don't want to engage. "I don't know" is a hell of an idea.

Parents need to be parents first off. Secondly we need more nut houses so these psychos aren't free to roam. Third, get these libtard judges and D.A.'s out to actually keep offenders locked up.

Fourth, how in God's name is an exterior door to an elementary school unsecured?

Fifth put the blame for these incidents at the offenders feet. Not mine, not yours, or anyone else. I will not tolerate being punished for another's evil deeds.

You could forcibly ban all guns and do door-to-door confiscation and it wouldn't prevent any mass shootings. These heinous acts were not happening 60 years ago when kids were taking their new.22 to school for show-and-tell, or leaving their .20 gauge with the principal so they could shoot quail on the walk home after school. These crimes have nothing to do with guns! Blaming it on guns is just a lazy, low-resolution response intended to exculpate the real villain which is the culture we've created----no fathers in homes anymore, men entirely emasculated, the state acting as the new "father", boys growing up without a properly civilized man to show them what being a man actually means, moral relativism, cultural despair and on and on and on. We didn't have these crimes when we were watching Ozzy and Harriett on TV.

Common sense gun control and red flag laws would suit him just fine.

Oh, and no more mean tweets of course.

Years ago a guy did a talk about fire suppression systems in schools compared to active shooter situations. Something about how schools are built around fire suppression as part of the building code, and no kid has died in a school fire for 50 years. Yet schools aren’t built to prevent or even address active shooter situations.

There’s a fire extinguisher in every classroom.

Why isn’t there a gun?

We’re not going to prevent evil people from visiting evil upon us, but we sure as hell can shoot back.

If we have the will, that is.







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It’s up to the School Board and Superintendent to allow whether Teachers and School Employees with a LTC to carry on School Grounds. Texas Law allows for it if approved by the Sup. & School Board.
Hopefully this will encourage a lot of TX School Districts to allow Legal LTC license holders to carry.
I know the school district here locally allows it

You are correct Jim. More feel good b.s....

I want to do something, I want these school shootings to stop. Not being evasive, I don't have answers. But I think all of us have probably had a thought or two at some point on something that could make this better. Keeps guns out of Tranny hands, or far right crazys or whatever label you want to put on the perpetrators, doesn't matter to me, it's equal opportunity as far as I see it. As soon as you go on a forum like this and give hint of gun control, doesn't matter how big your arsenal is or how much you donate to the NRA, you're a lefty, a troll, a plant, a non christian, whatever. Just sling as much mud as possible. But I think we as gun owners we need to be part of the solution and to stick our heads in the sand and say the system is what it is, acceptable losses, is not good.

The war on boys and men might have something to do with it.

https://medium.com/@TheLibertyBoi/the-real-cause-of-school-shootings-and-how-to-fix-it-d084e7e0fda0

But to offer up gun control as the only option is irresponsible.

It’s not gun control, it’s crazy people control. Forget the tool, look at the person with the tool.

Damn, it ain’t that hard.




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Thought you were leaving the convo comrade?

Not gotten the responses you need yet?

The Lying POS Fake President Hiden Joe Biden is about to read the TelePrompTer on TV.
Now showing him and the 1st Ho “Dr” Jill. 🤪

POS is acting. Fake Emotional Bullschitt Dog & Pony Show. 😡😡😡

I never said gun control is the only answer.

Then starts shouting “When in God’s Name are we gonna confront the Gun Lobby”. 😡😡😡

Rambling 🤪🤪🤪
“God, Assault Weapons, And Body Armor !!!”

Someone ought to ask this POS what God thinks about Murdering Millions of Children a year through abortions??? 😡😡😡

Like Kaywoodie said earlier. We all knew he’d make this about GUN CONTROL.

DemoRat’s never let a crisis or tragedy go to waste. 😡

Fuqk Joe Biden ! 😡😡😡

I'm trying to leave, just want to make sure you understand what i'm saying

Try harder

Nobody has yet to mention that we are currently waiting for the Supreme Courts opinion on concealed carry which could be released any day now.

I pray for the families but it’s a strange coincidence.

I have three different sets of grandkids in three different school systems here in central Texas. I cannot get into any of these assorted campuses with out buzzing the door buzzer or entering thru the admin office. Which also has locked entrance/exit doors.

About 20 or so years ago wife was a volunteer teachers aid for reading classes. Yet another different campus with secured entrances.

I thought a locked and secured campus was all the norm now?? What gives??

One grandson and granddaughter attended a school with armed teachers and a QRF! And were talking a small country school!

Blowhard Joe didn’t waste a moment to turn a tragedy into politics. Bet not one libtard political figure will say anything about the violence games and videos. Protected by the first amendment “my ass”! MTG

Am surprised that no one has pointed out that very soon Beto will arrive with his entourage to outline a solution to preventing future tragedies.

Telling.

That was funny, I'll try harder

A meteor needs to hit Washington D.C. and flatten that town and everybody in it.

To leave

We understand that you’re a moron. Run along, you’re gonna miss Anderson Cooper.

Yep. What a place to get your “news” from.
That F A G Anderson Cooper lies as much as Hiden Joe Biden.

I will damn well guarantee you any solution for ANY situation will NOT come out of Washington!

Yep.

No doubt Bob. Maybe Putin will Nuke that den of crooked ass Lying asswholes.

Time to start over is past due.

The dems knew they stole the 2020 election. With that in mind that gives them carte blanc to drive America like they stole it, because they did. They know that any day now the "jig is up" and they could be out on their ear at any moment. The democRATS have been shoving garbage down America's throat since day one of idiot biden's presidency because they could with the understanding that it may all come to a screeching halt at any time.

To answer your question, yes, they are not going to pass up this good crisis and they will do what ever they can to shove more of their agenda down America's throat. We on the political right will not have a say in anything until after the mid terms and ONLY IF we take back the House and the Senate. The democRATS have the election fraud down to a science, they don't plan on losing anything. As long as their is one copy of the U.S. Constitution out there in print, that is conservative Americans plan to save our country.

I just made your day.

kwg

How can we miss you if you won't go away?

I said it hours ago, and I think it's going to hold through.

18 kids and 2 adults now.

Joe's on now

fugg joe in the azz

This. God-damn it, someone in power has to be able to see this simple fact. Nearly 100% of all school shootings is some teenage male nutjob who's hell bent for leather to go out with a blaze of Glory. Address and make laws to prevent THAT.

A gun is an inanimate object, much like the pressure cooker that killed 3 and injured hundreds in Boston.

Uvalde is a small town in South Texas...the first ""city," on Hwy 90 north of Mexico. The significance of that is nothing.

There is always a common denominator with these murders.

Mentally ill people.

Every time.

And everybody knew it.

Especially their mother.

Who is a Democrat.

If the powers that be wish to do something worthwhile they need to look to Israel! The Israelis know how to protect their schools!!

If it comes out the shooter was a Wet, that came in under Hiden Biden’s Catch & Release Open Border Fiasco, they’ll drop this story like a hot cake.

Or bury it.

Yes sir.

Vladdy has a couple of "meteors" on standby even as we speak.

Leaving God and his son Jesus Christ out of it is the problem.

The government has never been good at fixing much of anything, ever!

Parents and teachers emotionally get in their own way of any sensible protection for hardening schools - sure they have closed campuses with cameras galore, and some even have roaming school police.

But to lock a school down to the degree of a prison isn’t likely to happen. Entrances and exits door are constantly being opened and locks defeated by students doing random acts of kid stuff.

To secure a school and make it a hard target. All doors/windows would need monitoring systems for accidentally or nefarious openings by student or teachers.

Single point of entry for foot traffic only with scans for weapons and searches of bags and backpacks. Trained and armed individuals at main points of entrance with active security camera monitoring of exterior/interior campus looking for individuals starting an attack.

Most of these attacks are internal and done by current or former students. Schools and school police suck at stopping school bullying and some parents aren’t anywhere near concerned enough to take action if their kid is a major dick head to smaller, weaker kids.

Then there’s the arming of some teachers. That hasn’t gotten much traction either, due to teachers and parents being emotional and what’s the training and certification for an armed teacher look like?

The fact is, society has changed over the years. Bullying has went from only the school grounds to 24/7 365 days a year with social media. Some kids have no relief, other than to disconnect from all social media...Which is often used as a teaching aide at schools.

Then there’s the media itself, which has to report on these horrible acts of violence - leading to the next copycat, kid shooter.

Kids, killing kids has become prolific business for the media. There are some reasonable ways to reduce the attacks, but nothing is failure proof. Murphy’s Law lives.

I also don’t believe video gaming creates a murderer. I don’t believe kids being exposed to proper use of a firearm will make a kid more likely to kill others...I do believe that unchecked bullying can cause some vulnerable kids, who may be gamers or have family members that own firearms that they can get their hands on, might go full retard and surrender to their pain and inflict their vengeance on others.

At the end...A lot of parents are just flat out dogshît. Not all, but a lot of them are.

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You haven't answered this yet. From your statement I'll assume you voted for the dipshit in the Whitehouse now, correct?

As far as I'm concerned your opinion means nothing to anyone here if those are the facts and judging by your statements I don't think anyone here can think otherwise. GFY

On another forum it was disclosed that the Uvalde teachers wanted to carry guns but the school board said "No!"

This. Poor kids not even at room temperature and the POS is pushing gun control.

UFR.

Awful situation......Prayers for those folks down there.

How many of these young people who have committed school shootings have had an involved father or father figure in their lives?

This. I hate fugking liberals.

Before the libs succeeded in undermining the traditional family unit and other American intitutions and values these things just didn't happen.

No, they have to run with the anti gun agenda on this.

FUGG OFF YOU POS !

Yep

When I was in Israel a few months back I went to visit a friend who is a teacher at a high school in a small farming town between Tel Aviv and Gaza. Other than rocket attacks, it's not really a center for terror activities. When I pulled up to the school I had to park in an area that was a good walk to the main gate of the school. Cameras everywhere and several armed guards at the gate, which could only be opened up from inside a guard post (hardened), where there was at least another armed guard. These guards were soldiers who used to serve in combat units and they were outfitted accordingly.

I was impressed that they had several layers of security and if anyone tried to assault the school and was able to take out the outside guards, the ones on the inside would obviously see and hear it and shut down the entire facility before engaging the terrorists. Pretty much the only way to get through to the kids would be to roll up in a tank.

It's a shame that this is the reality, but it is the reality and no one wants to see dead kids. I know the lunatics here in the US would argue that we've turned schools into prisons if such a system were put in place, but it sure is an effective system and it doesn't require anyone to give up individual rights.

If you're the type who would rather take away guns from the 99% of people who use them lawfully, rather than put common sense security into school buildings, you'll end up being a good party loyalist when every other freedom is taken away.

And kicking GOD out of school didnt help.

Don’t know...But I think a couple of the kid shooters started their target practice at home, on their mom.

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Every thing the liberals touch, every idea they have is a failure.

Geraldope just said the 2nd A makes him sick.

FIXT.

If you ain't getting God at home, school ain't going to help.

LIKE ☝🏽

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Eat chit you douchebag liberal cock

Soon you may only get to watch Anderson Cooper and Don Lemon on your VHS player.

Word is they are gonna be fired by the new boss David Zaslav of Warner Bros.


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I'm old...I get it. But 40 years ago, when a kid was identified as a psycho, he was disappeared.

This. A thousand times this. I am so sick of this "Nobody could have seen this coming" BS in situations like this. Anyone who could shoot an entire classroom full of small children in cold blood is either evil on a scale hard to fathom or completely batchit insane. Maybe a combination of the two. But no matter which of those best describe this guy there is NO WAY a person like that could spend 18 years in the same house with other humans without them noticing some serious warning signs. I have a 15 year old son. The notion that he could secretly be the kind of person that could do something like this without me having any clue is laughable. This is not like some teenager slipping behind your back and drinking beer or smoking cigarettes without you as a parent knowing about it. There is NO WAY a person capable of this kind of insanely evil act is getting up every day and leading a seemingly normal life.

It would be totally unfeasible, as well as being monetarily impossible, to do that to American high schools which can cover several acres of land when including all of the outdoor athletic facilities.

I bet it would be easier and less costly than trying to round up every semi-auto weapon in the country, which seems to be the Dems' solution.

Anderson Cooper, LOL, all we needed to know

Mentally insane - hold his family responsible for letting him roam the streets.

Is this real?

Them sunsabitches in DC are a helluva lot bigger threat to me and my family and my freedom than Vlad could ever dream of being. Know who your REAL enemies are.
7mm

Absolutely correct. The enemy resides in dc plain and simple

40 Billion to Ukraine....f*ck that....I do not know the logistics, but send some billions to the states to fortify schools like what Remsen said..

Not officially verified, but looks legitimate

Exactly the kind of Bullschitt that the DemoRat’s And Libertards are pushing as the new America “Agenda” nowadays. The Pussification of the USA. 😡

It appears that the Uvalde School District had NO Armed Security. 😡

Texas mass shooting: Uvalde school district had security measures in place prior to tragedy

https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-mass-shooting-school-district-security-measures

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This info released by the Ulvalde School District makes no mention of Armed Officers.

From the Article:

“UCISD's website states that the district has "proponents to curb and/or eliminate" elements of" violence, vandalism, disruptions and fear" in its schools to "provide a safe and secure environment for all." 
“Those proponents include four officers, including a chief, a detective and two officers within the school district; partnerships with local law enforcement agencies; security staff that patrols door entrances and parking lots at secondary campuses; case managers and social workers on UCISD campuses; licensed counselors; threat assessment teams; social media threat monitoring; a visitor management security system; canine detection services; motion detectors and alarm systems; perimeter fencing at Robb and other schools; security vestibules and outside buzz-in systems; security cameras; a locked classroom door policy; staff and student training; and a threat reporting system. “

He puts the lotion on the skin!

Just heard that the tally it 19 dead plus a teacher.

Meanwhile, the outrage continues at the possibility of abortion being limited.

And they are bitching about Republicans holding strong on gun control. Leftist logic to the finest

Absolutely !!!!

I've never been good at appeasement. My bad.

I heard him spout that BS , what a total jackass !

It's not the federal government's job to solve every social problem, especially if they caused it in the first place. The problem is fatherless boys. Leftism is primarily responsible for that and you can't fix that problem by simply hardening schools.

It's not the federal government's job to solve every social problem, especially if they caused it in the first place. The problem is fatherless boys. Leftism is primarily responsible for that and you can't fix that problem by simply hardening schools.

BS. $40 billion would help provide security.
Like Rand Paul said, $500 from everyone in America.

No...the problem is crazy people.

I would think you would realize that the solution does not involve keep guns out of the hands of people (liberal logic). It involved properly treating people and valuing life. Life needs to be taught to be valued, that has diminished in our society. Evil people will do what it takes to get their goal accomplished. Legislating guns and access is NOT the answer.

Bonus point. There is no such thing as common sense gun laws

I disagree. I truly believe many dems love the fact there are these shootings. It helps further their agenda. Metal dtectors, security, and locked doirs from the outside would be a cheap and effective deterrent. Take the millions/billions spent to sell gun control and put protective measure in place in the schools. Nope, they don't want that... it would lessen their opportunity to further their agenda.

The problem in mainstreaming and making acceptable aberrant and destructive behavior. Like trannies, etc.

PS. If the Federal Government can legally require all kids who dont get private education to get public education then the Federal government has a responsibility to protect them or we need a new Federal government.

Yep.

You should go back to not posting.

BINGO, force unnatural things on people and get crazy mentally unbalanced reactions.

No doubt about it , and it will only get worse as the libs force this wickedness to be accepted !!

Solution:

Actually, it's friends and family ENABLING crazy people. That, and making excuses for them.
The fatherless boy problem is indeed a problem,
but I know many boys that grew up without a father
that turned out just fine, and went on to become
productive law abiding citizens.
Have some enabled white trash about 50 yards away
that the family enables when he should be back in
prison. He's already been on 3 or 4 felonies and in
the county lock up countless times.
Just a useless space waster.
And there's many tens of thousands just like him.
I won't accept excuses for these criminals and psychopaths that need to be locked away and/or
executed

Phone signal here's keeps me from posting pictures but I hope you all can find the pictures of this guy or thing dressed as a woman and all the tranny and bisexual f****** b******* typical Democrat

Well said my friend.

PREZACTLY!!!

No idea if this has been posted, but Colion Noir was on Tucker Carlson addressing this shooting.

I want to add, that I’ve been waiting and dreading something like this ever since the election was stolen. I still look for a ban/buyback on defense rifles and registration on most everything else.
Gun control never works for the stated purpose, which is to prevent violence.
However, it is always effective for its real intended purpose, which is to make law abiding people helpless and dependent on government for protection from crime.
Don’t fall for it. They want you and me to be helpless. It makes their job easier!
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This. Again and again and again….

Sane people don’t do these deeds. Wife works with the worst of them in the school. She can see their eyes are empty. They have no feeling. True sociopaths and psychopaths. She can get them admitted only for a few days and only if they are a threat to themselves. They need to be institutionalized and heavily medicated.

We closed most of those facilities in the 80s and 90s. Let the cops deal with them. And if they’re bad enough, the prisons. Well that model clearly isn’t working.

Dude, you dont get it. You CANT legislate guns to stop this kind of violence. Its like talking to a brick wall. It is about God (sorry your not a believer). Its about the value of life. Its not working because there is a constant increase in removing, hating, or discrediting religeon, which in turn divides people, takes away opportunities for bonding and coming together and removes some of the basic codes of humanity. I dont buy your crap about Trump either. Nothing Trump did would push a conservative to the left of center, compared to the Green New Deal, All that Biden has done and the Radical agenda that is attacking America right now, including the riots, BLM, attacks on energy, unnecessary taxing and attacks on the rich. Dont buy it for a second.

Failure drill. Two to the body one to the head or pelvic girdle. Apparently he was wearing armor. It's becoming common place. God forbid you find yourself in a self defense situation, if you are putting rounds on target center mass without response, transition to head or pelvic girdle (ie the d*ck). Practice it.

Not enough LE or avg Joe citizen practices the Failure drill. Stitch the target.

Have fam that worked juvi.
Seen some w the ten mile deep eyes.
Aint wired right.
Can only keep em til 18 and then theyre free to raise Hell as an adult.

People have no clue how many fugged up kids there are.
According to my source:

1/3 are on drugs
1/3 were abused
1/3 have low IQ

There are some that fit in multiple catagories.

None can function decent in society, so they blame society and unleash their rage at never fitting in.

INCELS fall into same IMHO

Uvalde is a small town. I’m sure this guy was no mystery to his high school classmates, a lot should come out in the next few days..

One thing I think a problem, making excuses for bad behavior.

There are folks that have had shiddy childhoods that arent causing problems.

Lack if accountability in parents and the kids.
Never their fault .


Where is this shooters dad?

Arent most mass shooters from mommy is daddy homes
( Or grandma is daddy ) ??

AOC called Republicans "baby killers".

Maybe they should make schools in the shape of a uterus.

Then there should be a lawsuit against the school board, a suit for violating the rights of the school teachers and leaving them in a vulnerable position. They should be held responsible. This is what citizens should push for.

And the ACLU standing guard over crazy people being identified, evaluated, treated, and in certain cases, locked away for the safety of themselves and the community.

Some people shouldn’t be allowed to walk amongst us.

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Did anybody ever find out why the Las Vegas shooter went Cuckoo?

Or who leaked the Roberts opinion?

Could turn prisons into mental facilities, if theyd fire up ol Sparky to make room

Yep.

The only real cure is to take them out behind the barn and put a 22 lr behind the ear.

Stitch the shooter up the legs to the groin area.

then finish on the head

The Commie Socialist Fake News Media will bury those stories. All they care about is Gun Control, just like their Puppet Dementia Ridden Fake President Biden.

Heard it said on Fox tonight that there’s 100 billion $$$ in Covid funds for schools that is still unused. So our gov did it for the children but apparently the children turned it down. That means there are politicians foaming at the mouth waiting to divey up the “excess funds”. That much money would go a LONG way toward making schools secure.

are there any 40 cal or 9mm, 357, .45 cal rifles in production moron??

Bull f*cking pu$$y....somebody, I do not give a schiet who, send some of the Ukrainian billions to the US schools.

I can’t speak to your first question. That investigation seemed to go nowhere and then faded away forever. Go figure.

Your second question, having no answers for culpability or guilty of the leak is beyond any understanding.

There is 9 justices with 4 clerks each, so a total of 36 possible suspects. They can’t question and run a lie detector on 36 individuals and get a sense of who is lying by now?

Sure, sure…There’s nothing going on here, but business as usual.

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Yep. Case in Point: HiPoint, S&W, Ruger, Colt, Winchester, Henry, Rossi, KelTec, etc.
And also, I thought you couldn’t buy .556 and 7.62x39 ammo unless you’re 21 in some States, too.

Center mass is a high probability target. Legs are very low (small target usually moving). Start center mass, adjust p.o.a. if no response to center mass. Pelvic girdle is probably your 2nd best target area as it is large as well.

Gov Abbott just said the shooter was an American Citizen.
19 kids murdered. 2, adults, 1 teacher and the shooters grandmother. + the cowardly murderer.

ok. lol. Depends how mass shootings you've been involved in. Ever seen someone shot a few times in the legs? I have more than once. They are immediately on the ground

Train a lot for the specific situation and more and more mass shooter wearing body armor. Legs and groin area a lot easier to hit than a head.

Harden the schools and they'll just shoot up the mall. Fix the root of the problem which is mass fatherlessness and the war on men and boys.

Harden the schools and they'll just shoot up the mall. Fix the root of the problem which is mass fatherlessness and the war on men and boys.

It maybe my conspiracy minded brain talking. But with the guberment doing the investigation, I’d say conspiracy is at least likely.
Anyway, I’d lay dollars to donuts that the alleged Vegas Shooter was dead before the first shot was fired!
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Gun control is the only answer.

Own a gun (guns) carry a gun (guns/loaded) control your gun. Goes for everyone. Politeness would then abound. The rare shooter would quickly be put down by gun control..See the video of the White Settlement shooting Barry posted..See how easy that works. Firearms and ammo would be tax deductible (Constitutional) as would range fees and memberships. I could go on but will let someone else pick this ball up and run with it awhile.....Where's Prewar ?

He’s busy watching Anderson Cooper. 😂😂😂

These people are literally manufactured. This is war against you by our government or elements therein. Don’t take the bait. Do not treat this as if it is a natural phenomenon. It isn’t.

bingo. disaffected male youth. Done on purpose

Has Alex Jones denied that this has happened yet? Has he identified the crisis actors ???

Happy Cramper give us the full report

THIS /\ /\!!!
This outta be the quote of the month!

More like a War by the current Government on White Christian Conservative Gun Owning Americans. 😡

Offer a pay differential for every teacher who completes a handgun training course and carries at school.

I’d be happy to kick in for the extra in my school district.

And guess what, do it today, it will have more positive impact than any of the hot air búllshit talk talk we’ve been doing for the last 25 years.



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Agreed

I agree with this 100%.
But the FBI monitors just put the 3 of us on another watch list for being dangerous racist extremists for saying so!
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How about just putting nuts away? Unless that is done, not a DAMN thing can be done about crazy people doing crazy things. Oh...I get it. It's mean.

Who sprung em?

Reagan?

Stay classy San Diego.

Yes and no. He did sign the bill, but there was a veto-proof bipartisan majority behind it, so he could not have stopped it.

It's covered in San Fransicko, a pretty good book.

You're mind-reading again.

We tend to have that problem…

Lol

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As a country things that 30-40yrs ago were taboo are now normal. Several states you can abort a healthy baby after birth we are talking full term baby. The mom can say I don’t want it so they cut the spinal cord. 30-40yrs ago that kind of talk would’ve got you ran out of town labeled a quack. The big is transgenderism hell 20yrs ago people were like wtf is wrong with you. Today it’s been normalized, you have school teachers preaching it’s normal it’s ph ucking mind boggling. gender dysphoria Is a mental disorder recognized as such by the top psychiatrist in the world. But nope here in good ol USA it’s perfectly fine. Their are several other things that have been normalized oh like child molestation they are trying to normalize that. This country is off axis bad.

Who cares?

Actually it was the Supreme Court. No person imprisoned without felony conviction, no criminal responsibility if they're crazy, etc.

No way of knowing yet if this guy would have been detained for mental health reasons. Cross-dressing is accepted and somewhat trendy now. The guy posted photos of his expensive AR’s, no one here is gonna support investigating a kid for that.

The guy apparently did not live with his parents, which suggests a less-than-ideal upbringing. What is certain is that, like most every other kid today big city or in the sticks, he was raised on his phone, hours and hours every day.

What they get on their phones ain’t about responsibility, God and Country. On his phone that guy could find inspiration, affirmation and support for whatever perverse road he was tripping down.

Haven't read all pages, so this may have been answered, but--

How did he get into then school ? Doors not locked?

This is horrific, these are little kids--Damn!

Pot head?

Cross Currents of this Tragedy will be Hard for the Marxist to Control ..
As the Sun Raises over Chicongo nar a Peep..

They sure didn’t have a problem putting John Hinckley Jr in the nut farm for 30 plus years for shooting Reagan and others.

We should start doing the same with other mentals who are clearly insane.

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Purple haired, nose ringed, 6th plane gender residents ain't f'n normal. Sorry about that, snowflakes. Now go play in traffic.. HEAVY traffic.. Like an international airport landing strip or a cruise port egress channel.

36 is NOT a big number. Fry em up on the lie detector and see what floats to the top. This is not rocket science and anybody paying attention knows it.

👆 This.

No argument from me....

The press is reporting that he bought two rifles on his 18th birthday.

I figure the power structure elite don’t want their very Liberal Justice, who’s Clerk did the leaking being forced to face public scrutiny.

Sotomayor comes to mind.

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Just surfing the liberal channels to see what they’re saying. Joe blow on MS NBC just reported that the AR 15 rifle is 40% more deadly than a military M-16 weapon because the M-16 shoots a larger bullet & the AR 15 shoots a smaller more unstable bullet. ??????! you can’t make this crap up

Hard to argue with this.

Lack of parental guidance, especially from Dad's or father figures, are a big part in a lot of what's going on with younger people

Everyone knows it was the Court Jester that did it..
It’s just one more in a Long Line of things to Laugh Off
Burton Cumming song Laughing cum’s to Mind..

Spot on!

Because Uvalde is so close to the border, I am wondering if Biden will go visit the school.

Because the shooter was a crossdressing mentally ill $hit of Mexican descent, Biden is going after the gun manufacturers and not the shooter.

My only question is - What about all the hundreds of innocent folks who are being murdered by gang activity across the country? Where are the crocodile tears and mock outrage for them?

Excellent post !!

Shooter

A Sheriff was sitting in the parking lot of my sons school this morning when I dropped him off.

Seems normal

Roe v Wade decision was supposed to come out in the next few days right?

How convenient. You can time these things by major legislative events and the like. Bad economic news and so on and so forth. Every time the narrative needs to change

Looks like Richard Ramirez!!!

Oh yea, they're gonna do that for a while till the story dies down, then back to the donut shops they'll go.

News is saying the trannies in the photos above aren't the shooter

Don't forget, there was a cop at the school in Broward Co, and when the shooting started , the coward ran and hid.
Having a cop at the school means nothing if they don't do their job.

Yeah, I had forgotten about that .....................

The press is reporting that the shooter was wearing body armor and that the good guys with guns had trouble taking him down.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ol-gunman-brawled-repeatedly-school.html

Bullied loaner from a broken home.

Pretty common theme and fixing that is where we should start.

"One Border Patrol agent who was working nearby when the shooting began rushed into the school without waiting for backup and shot and killed the gunman, who was behind a barricade, according to a law enforcement official speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk about it.

The agent was wounded but able to walk out of the school, the law enforcement source said."

Hero.

Best post of thread.

Absolutely. Freedom is fraught with danger, but well worth it. The solution is to be armed at all times, and prepared to deal with nutjobs should they arise.

JoeBob wasn't saying mass murderers are acceptable. He was saying that the risks associated with living in liberty are an acceptable tradeoff for the benefits of living in liberty.

The book of Jobe, "Man is born into trouble, as sure as sparks fly upward."

Prayers for all.

Good call Jake!


This is almost entirely on the schools. Schools promote LGBT along with grievance theory. They promote radical action against "injustice".

Easy solution. Get rid of laws that prevent the law abiding from carrying effective weapons. These lunatics love environments where regular folks are forced to be unarmed, and they avoid areas where they believe there are lots of armed good guys. It's really that simple.

One has to define bullied. Kids can sniff out freaks that need gone, but no one does anything about it, and the system makes them a protected class.

It can be done if a judge is willing to declare a person criminally insane, which they are almost never willing to do. One doesn't have to be very smart to see that crazy is mainstream today.

Hanging comes to mind.

You couldn’t get the front door at the district I worked for without being buzzed in. That got you in the lobby. You had to have a working badge or key to get in the classroom areas. We had a police officer at every school also, two officers at junior highs and high schools. Every classroom had a locking door that would lock if school went to lockdown mode.

No Dad. Druggie Mom. Video games. Bullied.

People like this want some attention.

They have learned from previous well-publicized events (thank you, Media), that an easy way to get “recognized”, is to do something heinous, such as this.

Yes, he’s dead, now, but FUTURE actors will see how quickly he became famous by doing this, and try the same.

Funny how these "laws" never prevent DC scum from having a 20 man entourage of bodyguards armed to the teeth.

As with most societal problems, the answer is more liberty and less government.

Yep

There you have it.

The fact that you watch AC and "This is Us" proves you are part of the problem.

Is that really him?

totally agree .. when I was in high school you could bet almost every pickup in the parking lot had some kind of a gun in it. People we're still for the most part normal they wanted to grow up meet someone of the opposite sex have a family get a job dream of being highly successful. Those that were a little offbeat kept that to their self and their home life. Now we have the flaming f****that think they're special the ones that call their self a tranny and want to change their self. You got some that's going to save the seals and save the owls and the environment and that's kind of off the deep end. Then you've got the drug addicts. Of which most in both and all these groups have one parent in the home if they even have any parents in the home being raised by grandparents. Who all believe you should never spank a child and this is working out quite well. For a communist takeover. And of course the offbeat kids are going to get bullied some that is just the nature of people doesn't make it right but that does happen.

Not just a "protected class", but a CELEBRATED class. Not only that, a class that has "legitimate" grievance against society.

We should round all these MFers up along with their enablers.

There’s something is missing about the shooter’s history. There are powerful drugs, like Quetiapine, with serious side effects. Before the Biden regime further dismantles the Constitution, we should learn what caused him to loose his mind.

He resembles the Nightstalker from CA.

Just let folks carry. Gun free zones are the problem. They are a magnet for these people.

All in the leftist camp are quick to bring up such incidents. But no one remembers the victims of the largest mass killing at a public school in American history. The Bath Michigan incident. Suppose it’s too dated and the perp used excessive dynamite!

1. Turn the shooters into mulch.

2. Never release their names. Stop making losers famous.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but dynamite isn't as easy to get as it used to be. It might not be a good example to bring up.

This.

Do number 1 publicly kids would see that and think they do not want to be that guy.

School Board should be tried and convicted. They did as much to kill these kids as the gunman.

C unt should start by dismissing her entourage of armed bodyguards..

You know.. as a sign of "leadership".

Leadership. LMAO.

Post of the day right there.

Every child should be given a firearm safety course.
Every teacher (school employee) should be required to have firearms training and those that want to should be armed.

We are an armed society it's part of who we are, removing or more gun laws is not the answer, we're going about solving a problem ass-backward

It doesn’t look like the shooter to me...Unless he got some plastic surgery on his face after this photo was taken.

YMMV

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If a teacher or school resource officer had engaged that prick early on and shot him in the face and the media shellacked a pic of him laying in the dirt like that, that would have gone a long way to stopping these evil psychos.

They don't want to have their face blown off. Just want to do it to somebody else..

I have heard he shot out windows to get in and also heard the door was unlocked ? Lots of questions that need answers !

I have heard he shot out windows to get in and also heard the door was unlocked ? Lots of questions that need answers ! Not gonna happen !

Hell Squidge who needs dynamite anymore? Look at the JP Murrah bldg in OKC!

Just playing devils advocate. 😉

That's one of the problems with these type of "events" if you would all the news media and reporters want to be the first with the news and don't give a s*** about how accurate the news is.

If you cannot decide whether to tell the truth or the legend, tell the legend!!!

The War on Men starting with Young Men is Bearing Fruits..
You will know them by their Fruit…
Roll them or they Roll You..

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Fruit

And when they get exactly what they've been screaming for, it's somebody else's fault when innocent kids get shot up.

School Boards are at the center of the death of our society.

Very true, just pointing out that dynamite is heavily regulated now which is why it wasn't used in OKC. Evil people find ways around laws and regulations.

I partly blame their “zero tolerance” policy regarding fighting and self defense. When I was in school, this kid would have had his ass kicked on a regular basis until such time as he assimilated and behaved somewhat normally.

Differences between boys were settled with knuckles. We all had guns, knives, etc., but knew better than to use them on one another.

That's hate and oppression don't you know?

Nearly every one has stated that they want to beat the guys who came before. Stop releasing names. Stop giving them what they desperately seek.
I know some will argue that we have a right to know, but there are many sealed records. Like the Maxwell/Epstein list of rapists and molesters.

Gregintenn: I received another picture (different picture) of the "alleged" murderer in a different scenario and a different dress.
The friend who sent it to me is from Louisianna and declares the bedressed young man to be THE Texas school shooter!
If true, the murderer was obviously mentally ill and not at all comfortable with his trannyism/perversions.
Sad.
Yet the demonrats will blame "the gun" and the "Republicans" not the parents, teachers and Doctors who did NOT deal with this miserable cretin correctly over the years.
Abnormal is now the accepted NORMAL amongst way to many Americans (including demonrats, liberals, teachers, guilt ridden white people, professors, clergy, doctors and rinos)!
Sad.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

What was that 1970s cop movie where the cop gets into a fight with a tranny in a men's bathroom, and is almost killed by the tranny, but finally killed him? Tranny was some kind of karate expert.

Anyway, that was how such folks were perceived then (i.e., the quintessence of twisted evil), and it's a shame that ever changed.

That scene seems to have been scrubbed from the internet, by the way, as I cannot find it, and I'm pretty good at formulating search term combos. Can't even find what movie it was in, and it was a major motion picture.

MORE mental illness on parade from our "elected" President "china joe biden":


LINK: https://thefederalist.com/2022/05/2...ls-bathrooms-to-get-federal-lunch-money/


china joe biden IS mentally deranged.
PERIOD.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

So he would have been bullied until he conformed? I'm not sure that is a preferred situation either. GD

How much would people be willing to pay in tax increase to build every school in the US into a semi-prison like building? High walls around entire campus. Bulletproof glass, doors.. hell even walls.

And pay the extra 10-20 armed guards guarding each school.
Gotta be a federal tax so every school is entitled to the same amount of funding...


Wonder how much that would cost.

The actual cost would not be as bad as the extra that would be charged to us for the skimming MFs in our government. Remember, ten percent for the big guy.

Anyone notice the similarity between this mass shooter and the last? Both leftists, both 18, both used AR15 variants.

Now NorthBitch is concerned about tax dollar spending.

LOL

Let's set priorities....and I am sorry for cussing....but I was very sad and tearful last evening....I still say to give some Ukraine dollars to US School...

Priority #1......Harden the schools by providing several layers of security...see Remson's experience in Israel..we need to STOP KILLINGS of children NOW.

Priority #2....Lets now focus on the Fatherless Boys issue..

Priority #3....vote the leftist out forever.

I'm sure there are other ideas better than mine....

I don't see the fortification of schools as being a good thing either. We will never know exactly what happened nor the order in which events unfolded so it is difficult to make a lot of sense of it.
It appears that law enforcement engaged with the shooter after he wrecked his pickup (no driver's licence BTW) and before he approached the school; yet, none of the law enforcement types thought to safeguard the school? Every door should have been blocked.
Many people seem to be supporting the idea of increased surveillance around public buildings and an increased security presence. To me, that is a little unpalatable as well.
Ultimately the divisiveness which is sown by the mainstream media and by politicians, on both sides of the aisle, has found fertile ground and American society is more divided than any time since the civil war. The news and entertainment media is doing it's best to keep racial tensions alive and, judging by the vitriol on the 24HCF, that is working well too. GD

Hey dipshit, "Tranny hands"? Why would you capitalize the word tranny? I thought you loved them and letting them shoot up a school is just fine with you leftist POS as long as it forwards your gun control agenda. You idiots have opened Pandora's box and there is no putting this kind of thing back in said box. This is what you get when you destroy the family and go around screaming bigot and racist constantly.

You want to help. Volunteer your days as an armed security guard at your local elementary school.

That way, you will not be infringing on my constitutional rights.

When I was in High school we had an armory and a gun range, M14's that could easily be made ready to fire, Target rifles that were ready to fire. The ROTC Commandant carried a 1911. We had an office in the school the police kept open. Why was this school in Uvalde unprotected?

Gotta drive that narrative. Why? There is panic in DC. They know the legal (real) POTUS is coming back to the WH and are going to throw everything they can to upset the Presidents plan.

WHO is recommending masking and vaxes. When the monkey pox came through 20 years ago it killed none in America. The left is showing pics of monkey pox that are really herpes and shingles. Why?
They are going to push the mail in ballots.

Look for anarchy this summer and fall to make voters stay home. They are desperate.
I'm looking for a FF "Cop shoots unarmed Bleck man" to start the George Soros Ukranian origin Antifa riots again.

They are desperate.

Say what? The pukes know George Floyd was not cop shot. Got to push the narrative though.

Apparently not.

Schools should have limited controlled access at the start of the day and then restricted to one entry during the day and with the perimeter of the buildings being fenced.

The School Board and Members should be sued for not doing enough to protect the children with whom that state has entrusted them (for the most part against their will since - no vouchers to use at private schools). If you're going to have a SRO he should be armed and some of the teachers should be as well. Disarming all of us is not going stop any lunatics. Being able to shoot their ass will help to stop the spread of it. And start frying some of the bastards committing these crimes.

School districts when they receive extra money. They don’t spend it on the schools or teachers. They hire another asst. superintendent. They are just like our government. Just smaller. Hasbeen

Kid looks like the Night Stalker Richard Ramirez

This crap can be prevented and those who don't need to be held accountable.

Cop shops don't often get shot up.

Yes, agreed and well said...I believe the people that do the shooting are either, evil, mentally ill, or evil and mentally ill....

He does.

Simply not romanticizing disfunction would probably have prevented him from acting like a bitch in the first place. No bullying needed.

That lone Border Patrol Agent was a real hero. The death toll could have been double or triple had he not been as brave as he was.

It took a good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun.

It's really disgusting when the leftists use a tragedy like this to push a political agenda.

I'ts equally disgusting when the right does it.

Ah…. Your playing King Solomon ..

AOC called Republicans baby killers. That's rich given her meltdown over the Supreme Court leak.

It is absolutely disgusting to politicize the killing of children!

Always the case and the issue one of the central issues the left NEVER addresses.

The other issue being the obvious fact that criminals ignore laws, while law abiding citizens follow them.

Ok. Then you’ll continue to get what you’re getting now.

I did not go back and read about 10 pages but I assume it was brought up. Where were this kids parents ? Did he have a good father figure in his life ? This is a huge issue that has been getting worse over the years.

kwg

I predicted mass shootings with Defense Rifles when the election was stolen.
They have an agenda, and black rifles in the hands of civilians is definitely not part of it.
But when I suggested that this stuff is orchestrated, I was labeled a crackpot.
7mm

I agree with Smokepole. It is ironic, and very sad, that those who despise the left for politicizing terrible events are now spouting their own political bile.

For God's sake, the kids just recently assumed room temperature. Shouldn't we be praying for the survivors and families of the victims?

I kind of it as needing to go a different direction actually.

It's okay to be weird and different. The kids don't have to be bullied for it.


The Zero Tolerance policy actually protects the bullies. Before that policy came to be, the bullying was self limiting.


The kid getting picked on could stand up for himself and shut it down instead of letting the pressure build and build and build until someone snapped.


No there is no consequences.


These fugging kids are relentless these days. They would just as soon tell each other to kill themselves than say hello.

You want to do something? Load up all of your guns, drive to the nearest river bridge, and throw them into the channel. No one will ever be shot with them. Wouldn’t that make the world a safer place?

What I’d like to see is a law that makes shooting people a crime. That would definitely solve the problem, right?

If murder laws do not prevent murder, what the hell makes people think more laws would help?

Where's the FBI plant this morning? Prewar70 must be targeting a different forum today.

Yep, no escape 24/7, everything said about a kid, every image, every video broadcast to the whole world, at least it feels that way.

Fugg, I HATE mean tweets.

the are so divisive.

that's what disgusting people do

Probably on DU. Where he belongs.

Anyone watching the presser by Texas Gov , ? Beto just created a scene and got escorted from the room

Wonder if the FBI groomed him to be a killer or the CIA ?

There's a whole thread about father figures on here recently.

The goodness of those father figures varies to a large extent from a really OK dude to a really violent bastid.

Something besides a father figure in the home might have been a reason why those of us who had one shading toward the latter version in my previous sentence didn't take the readily available firearms to school or some other public venue to start slaughtering others.

The father figure in the home might be a part of the issue, but methinks there's something else going on too.

Have there been suggestions of a sally port arrangement at schools? Seems like only one entrance and several secure (not glass) exit only doors would help. I know a sally port sort of makes it seem like a jail but it would help. And an exit door could be opened to let a shooter in if he had an ally on the inside but it would help. The best thing would be to go back to nut house mental institutions. The constitution does not say you cannot lock up a crazy. As per the 5th Amendment there just has to be due process of law which I would suppose means there needs to be a legal process based in laws written for that purpose and the right to have a judge rule on it.

All that said, nutty people doing nutty things isn't going to stop. I dealt with a crazy neighbor for 2+ decades before the sheriff finally came out and killed him. It's a wonder he didn't kill me after the first restraining order. He narrowly missed the sheriff with a load of 12 gauge buckshot. And guess what, he was 50 years old living with his mommy and she was egging him on. The sheriff killed her too.

To me this shooting is a mental Heath issue. We have the Democrats who can’t tell the difference between and girl and a boy trying to figure out a solution. The problem is they can’t recognize a mental illness problem. Obviously one that can’t tell the difference has a mental health issue. Hasbeen

Yes.

He was met with hostility for interrupting the press conference and politicizing the incident.

What an idiot.

I’d like to see a video of that. POS Gay Beto is the same kinda perv that the Shooter was.
Only difference is he’s got money.

Somebody should have tripped Beto and let Gov Abbott run over that POS multiple times with his Wheelchair.
Guaranteed that ole Hot Wheels will kick the schitt out of Gay Beto on Election Day.
Only way Abbott loses is if the DemoRat’s figure out how to steal the TX State Election.

They are still live. You can go back on the live video and see the idiot, and the disruption.

Yep. Fuggin POS DemoRat’s like Gay Beto just love a Tragedy so they can get in the spotlight.
There’s never been a bigger POS than Beto running for TX Governor.
And that’s saying a lot since we had to put up with the Lesbian Alcoholic Fat Ugly Ass Lying POS Ann Richards.

Her not letting TX vote in having a Concealed Carry Law have George Bush the Office.
He’s not far behind Ann Richards as a Lying Politician either. But at least he got us a CHL / LTC Law and signed it into Law.

It is the issue. Damn near every mass school shooter has been from a fatherless home. There has been (and still is) a massive war against men and boys in this country that is the primary driver behind these damaged and disaffected young men attempting to get attention for themselves by committing mass murder but no one wants to acknowledge that this is the real source if the problem. Kids were taking guns to school for show-and-tell 60 years ago and everyone had an M1 carbine in their closet and no one was doing mass shootings back then. What has changed? We've destroyed the Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts. We've driven fathers from the home and millions of boys have grown up (and are growing up) without the civilizing effects of good fathers. There are lots and lots of programs and preferences for girls in society and the school system but boys are continually marginalized, as are men (we're part of the damned and evil patriarchy remember?). Mass school shootings are a symptom of a societal disease---the destruction of the family with a father at the head and the constant marginalization and putting down of men and boys. Leftism brought us this. Warren Farrel has it pegged.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi1oN1icAYc&t=306s

The whole deal just fills me with unbelievable sadness. I can’t imagine what the parents and survivors have been going through the last 24 hours.

Kudos to the border patrol agents who engaged and killed this sick sonofabítch. Obviously without their action it could have been worse.

Hug your kids and be aware that evil is out there.

Godspeed young souls.

Try this link....

Imagine how evil one would have to be to point a gun at children and pull the trigger.

Piss on men these days...until they are needed.

Just heard Betoz interruption as played on the Clay and Buck show. Sounded like the crowds reaction to him might require him an escort to get out of town.

Well, some of us are pretty toxic (according to certain folks)

Parents taking away their Cell Phones and Computers would probably solve a lot of problems.
But that’ll never happen.
Hell, if they did do that, and took away their Video Games, half the kids would probably kill them self’s. They all think they can’t live without it.

Most of the kids I see nowadays that are HS aged are fat, lazy, and have probably never spent a day of their life’s playing outside. Much less hunting, or fishing.
I blame most of that on Parenting. Or lack of.
They give them phones, computers, TV’s and Video Games as a form of babysitting, so the selfish idiot “parents” don’t have to deal with them.
Sad state of affairs.

Thanks Barry !

The shooter had to walk 400 feet after crashing his truck (quite an impact it appears & airbags deployed) to get in the nearest door to the school. Just a face full of airbag would've been enough to discombobulate most folks, not to mention whatever effects from vehicle impact. But still managed to walk a minimum of 400 feet to start the whole deal. Looks like from recent imagery the school had installed a new driveway near where the truck crashed. Prior to this, the school showed to be fenced and gated with a sign on the nearest gate stating, visitors must get a pass from the office.

Lots of what if's. What if the new drive wasn't there, what if a SRO would've been in the office 400 feet away to witness the crash and shooter exit vehicle with firearms....