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I grabbed a 362cm and the thing is just a turd. Shoud have went bigger Yes, big time turd. The 400 which is based on the 362 cuts circles around it.
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Stihl 026 (bought used), 028 (FIL’s bought used), 029 Farm Boss (bought new). These three have cut a lot of wood the last 20-30 years. Normal maintenance and adjustments all that’s been needed. If I ever need to buy a new saw it will be a Stihl.
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cant imagine a 261 not doing what you want...the 362 is just more of a good thing but heavier
me i have a 362 but love my 241 that is no longer made
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I usually put on my Jonsered suspenders before entering a conversation about chainsaws
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You are probably right, when I heard the 372XP was going to be superseded, I rushed out and bought 3 of them. By 1 o'clock in the afternoon, down here in summer, (we are cutting in a burn frequently) ambient air into the saw is running near a hundred degrees. But...we ran 044's as landing saws, which is kinda like a destruction derby, and they just survived too. Ram intakes with double foam air filters, the 044's just wouldn't die, but the stock 372's would pull longer bars and full skip chains. Down here, we are hearing complaints from guys with the new Stihl computer fuel injection having auto tune problems with elevation changes. We shall see.
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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I've got a Stihl MS462C-M that's about a year and a half old, it's a cutting beast. I like the M-tronic carb and it's very easy starting. I can tune a carb but would rather not mess with it. The key to any two stroke equipment is to feed it high quality non-ethanol fuel which I do. I get 93 octane non-ethanol from a local fuel distributor. I put a Tsumura lightweight 20" bar with full chisel chain on it. I've got a 28" bar with a skiptooth chain that stays in the shed unless I need to cut something really big. The 462 will certainly handle a 25" but the 20" is a lot handier and will do 99% of what needs done on a daily basis. The 28" bar is for the other 1%.
The next logical step smaller for me would be the 400 C-M, the next step up the 500i which is great but bigger than I want. I haven't heard anything bad about the M-tronic carbs or the 500i's fuel injection system, I love mine and wouldn't want to go back to a regular carb setup. Some folks are scared of technology but I'm not one of them. I pretty much have a hatred of standard carburetors and anything that works better I'm all in on.
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I like my husky 346 xp.... 50cc saw but rips.... it will run a 20" bar which I do because I hate bending over but it's probably best with a 16 or 18. Love that little hot rod. 346 Is the best 50cc chainsaw ever made IMO. What sorta rpm does it run?
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I bought a ms-390 about 15 years ago. it came with I think a 24 inch bar. Besides having starting issues its been a pretty good saw. i then put a 20 inch bar on it and it made all the difference. If i can get it started it is a cutting fool. Same thing here on getting it started. I have a really low mileage 30 year old Husqvarne xp 266 and for that reason I have considered getting a new Stihl. Are the new saws any easier to start? 500i will start from cold engine in 3 cranks, whether its Zero or 100 degrees. This is important!
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I've got a Stihl MS462C-M that's about a year and a half old, it's a cutting beast. I like the M-tronic carb and it's very easy starting. I can tune a carb but would rather not mess with it. The key to any two stroke equipment is to feed it high quality non-ethanol fuel which I do. I get 93 octane non-ethanol from a local fuel distributor. I put a Tsumura lightweight 20" bar with full chisel chain on it. I've got a 28" bar with a skiptooth chain that stays in the shed unless I need to cut something really big. The 462 will certainly handle a 25" but the 20" is a lot handier and will do 99% of what needs done on a daily basis. The 28" bar is for the other 1%.
The next logical step smaller for me would be the 400 C-M, the next step up the 500i which is great but bigger than I want. I haven't heard anything bad about the M-tronic carbs or the 500i's fuel injection system, I love mine and wouldn't want to go back to a regular carb setup. Some folks are scared of technology but I'm not one of them. I pretty much have a hatred of standard carburetors and anything that works better I'm all in on. I was leary as well until I ran one, then I had to have one! I don't know if they will last 30 years or not and honestly I don't care. I use my saws every day at work and if the 500i will last me a year in the log woods its alreay paid for itself a few times over.
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I always tell people to shop saws based on your local dealers. Whoever is the best at service is who you want to buy from. Don't buy big box saws. I have Stihl, Husky, and Jonsered. All were bought when that dealer was the best to deal with. Not I'm lucky that my neighbor is a small engine wizard. All chainsaws start very easy...if you can tune a carb and don't mistreat them with ethanol fuel or stale gas. So true! That’s why my little 028 Super has lasted so long! Appreciating your posts.
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All chainsaws start very easy BS! I take 4 saws to the woods and each has its own personality. A couple ancient ProMac's cough on the second choked pull and run on the third open tug. One Stihl runs on its second pull partial choke. The 460 Stihl will flood if I do one pull in full choke followed with 5 minutes to jerk the plug and air it out. Then it starts on the next pull. Ever watch Life Below Zero on TV. Everyone up there uses a Stihl, and they always fire on the first tug. Even at -20 degrees. I think they could pull their saws out of a pond and they'd fire right up. Man those saws better run great! If I had finicky saws I’d be in a world of hurt. I can tune but not ‘tune’ so I look for 1 rockstar & run with it.
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I’ve had three stihls, been great saws!
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I like my husky 346 xp.... 50cc saw but rips.... it will run a 20" bar which I do because I hate bending over but it's probably best with a 16 or 18. Love that little hot rod. 346 Is the best 50cc chainsaw ever made IMO. What sorta rpm does it run? 14,200rpm IIRC.
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I bought a ms-390 about 15 years ago. it came with I think a 24 inch bar. Besides having starting issues its been a pretty good saw. i then put a 20 inch bar on it and it made all the difference. If i can get it started it is a cutting fool. Same thing here on getting it started. I have a really low mileage 30 year old Husqvarne xp 266 and for that reason I have considered getting a new Stihl. Are the new saws any easier to start? The biggest problem is that xp 266 has more compression than I've got Ass....
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You are probably right, when I heard the 372XP was going to be superseded, I rushed out and bought 3 of them. By 1 o'clock in the afternoon, down here in summer, (we are cutting in a burn frequently) ambient air into the saw is running near a hundred degrees. But...we ran 044's as landing saws, which is kinda like a destruction derby, and they just survived too. Ram intakes with double foam air filters, the 044's just wouldn't die, but the stock 372's would pull longer bars and full skip chains. Down here, we are hearing complaints from guys with the new Stihl computer fuel injection having auto tune problems with elevation changes. We shall see. The 372 is one of the best falling saws ever made. The 044/440 was as reliable as an anvil, but the antivibe wasn't as good as a 372 and it was under powered compared to a 372 as well. The 372 was just a generation ahead of the 044/440.
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You are probably right, when I heard the 372XP was going to be superseded, I rushed out and bought 3 of them. By 1 o'clock in the afternoon, down here in summer, (we are cutting in a burn frequently) ambient air into the saw is running near a hundred degrees. But...we ran 044's as landing saws, which is kinda like a destruction derby, and they just survived too. Ram intakes with double foam air filters, the 044's just wouldn't die, but the stock 372's would pull longer bars and full skip chains. Down here, we are hearing complaints from guys with the new Stihl computer fuel injection having auto tune problems with elevation changes. We shall see. The 372 is one of the best falling saws ever made. The 044/440 was as reliable as an anvil, but the antivibe wasn't as good as a 372 and it was under powered compared to a 372 as well. The 372 was just a generation ahead of the 044/440. I should add the old edition 372, not the newer Xtorque models and preferably the earlier non Rev limited coil models.
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Many good saws out there, dealer support is important.
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