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Bull schidt, you aren't going to get "400 fps" over a 30-06. You are living in a fantasy world.

Well uh,,,,, hornady data 06 with a 180gr bullet 2750. Hornady data 300 wsm with a 180gr bullet 3100 fps. So not quite 400 hundo (prs talk) but 3 fifty close enough..

Pros: Winchester made LH actioned M70 Featherweight classics in WSM. I always drooled over M70 Featherweight classic stocks, but could never find one in a LH action. I found a NIB lefty in 7mm WSM and snatched it up. No problems with ammo since I bought 150 brass cases way back when. It's accurate enough, light enough, quite pretty. Recoil a piece of cake.

Cons: Not many. It doesn't feed or extract as well as long actions like a 270 or 7mm Rem Mag. It doesn't offer any noticeable ballistic advantage that I can see over a 270 or 7mm Rem Mag, at least with the non-lead ammo that I have to shoot.

I plan on taking it on a Cow Elk hunt this year. It's supposed to be a physically difficult hunt so I'll take advantage of it's lightness.

I have 3 WSM calibers 270WSM, 7mmWSM, 300WSM ... I really like all 3 calibers ... Plus all 3 rifles are Browning X Bolt Stalkers The 270 is a tack driver with 130grain NBT... The 7mm prefer the 140grain NBT and the 300 prefer 150NBT With finding reloading supplies you will be on a continue search...It would be a hard decision if I had to pick just one caliber... But I think finding your reloading supply will be more available for the 300WSM...

Kimber Montana in .300 WSM








124 gn Hammer Hunter at 3550 fps

The fastest 30-06 ammo I could find. Hornady light magnum 180gr BTSP:

LIGHT / HEAVY MAGNUM AMMUNITION - Box of 20

Stock No. 10389:
Bullet Caliber: .30-06 Spring.
Bullet Wt. Grs.: 180
Bullet Style: BTSP
Muzzle Vel. (F.P.S.): 2,900
Muzzle Energy (Ft.-lbs.): 3,361


A buddy of mine still has 10 boxes of the schidt and also some of the Federal High energy. Now, maybe post a link of that smoking hot 300wsm ammo you found..

Lol... nice job scouring the internet for the "hottest" 30/06 ever made. I gave a RANGE of 250-400fps...sorry it got your panties all bunched up. How about I change my post to 200-350fps faster... then you can sleep better in our fantasy world.

I'm not going to spend hours searching for hottest 30/06 vs 300wsm loads. I handload 165ttsx out of both and use Barnes PUBLISHED load data...max load for 30/06 is 2859fps with RL19 and max load for 300wsm is 3210fps with RL17....so 351fps faster.

I'm sure I could find a bullet/powder combo to prove out a 400fps difference but you're the only one that seems to care.

Now I'll go back to my bullchit fantasy world where the 300wsm is 351fps faster than the 06... not my crazy estimate of 250-400fps...whatever.

I had the .270 wsm, was sweet to shoot, when my hunt days were over, sold it

WSM's. They are short and fat. If that is what you like; there you go. My 308 Norma does beat my 30/06 by 300 fps, with 180's. I suppose the
"magic" WSM will do similarly; especially if loaded to higher pressures. GD
PS. As far as real "cons" are concerned, feeding can be an issue but usually is not. Breech thrust is a real concern in some actions. Chamber wall thickness can be an issue as well, in some rifles.

DumbDog,

Your version of "experience",is fhuqking HILARIOUS...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Only Fhuqktards fixate headstamps and you needn't "prove" same perpetually,despite it being the BEST you can "do". Read that again. Now one more time. Hint.

If only for more oblivious humor,cite the particulars of said pieces of fhuqking schit and for belly laughs,pictures of same! Don't "forget" receiver Make/Model,stock,mounting system,optic,barrel RPM/throat and the specific 180gr projectile. Don't worry about your Bitch Thrust. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............

...... so is the common variety Alaskan Garden Gnome.

Dip Stick,
I sometimes wonder just how much intellect might be concealed behind that dumpy exterior or obscured by that boorish personality. Probably not much, I guess.
Still you have managed to come to the realization that a bullet doesn't care what case it came from and that's an important step. It seems like you understand the case is nothing but a gasket and a holder for propellent and bullet. Nonetheless, the rifle as a system is better served by some cartridges than others and I think you get that too. Your fixation on BC and the effect on wind drift is understandable but kind of misplaced for the average hunting situation. If one doesn't care to shoot game at much past four hundred yards, he can deal with wind drift.
The downsides of the WSM are mostly related to it's shape and girth (sorry about that). The breech thrust issue is mostly not a big deal unless the action is marginal but the chamber wall thickness has been a real problem in some cases. The minimum body taper design, touted by many, can be problematic for gunsmiths chambering rifles for these cartridges.
Misshapen chambers were a problem on the early WSM Winchester rifles but Winchester addressed that. I can explain further if you like but I don't want to waste my time if you have trouble understanding. Keep on with the entertainment but let's see some new material. GD

Neighbor of mine has a 300wsm he’s one of those who hasn’t been out much weed eats for a living and gets a check for his mental capacity has a hell of a business his only problem is I pass him at 6:30 in the morning he’s taking a break weed eating a yard and he’s drinking a 40 oz cobra he brought his rig up to my house to sight in last fall cause he couldn’t figure it out🙄🤔tasco scope mounted in the x formation 🙄I got him straight but good lawd that thing whooped my shoulder left him 3 rounds I’ve yet to here a hunting report 🙄

Bless your little heart! LOL

DumbDog,

Your version of "experience",is fhuqking HILARIOUS...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Only Fhuqktards fixate headstamps and you needn't "prove" same perpetually,despite it being the BEST you can "do". Read that again. Now one more time. Hint.

If only for more oblivious humor,cite the particulars of said pieces of fhuqking schit and for belly laughs,pictures of same! Don't "forget" receiver Make/Model,stock,mounting system,optic,barrel RPM/throat and the specific 180gr projectile. Don't worry about your Bitch Thrust. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............

Same here! Mine is a Winchester model 70 Classic stainless and all I've ever done is put it in a B&C stock topped with a Nikon Monarch 3x9 scope. Every animal that I've pulled the trigger on with it died most emphatically, including a good sized bull Elk in 1999. Launch a Nosler Accubond over a charge of H4831sc and it's my solid 400 yard and under do all rifle.

Still running factory tube, if it needs rebarreling someday, will stay with the caliber as I have about 500 pcs of brass, some still new win the bag, and just have them spin the rate a little faster to work with heavy bullets.

Love them. Them being (2) 7 WSM’s; I also had a couple .325’s at one point. Also love my 6.5 SAUM.

I like the performance in a short action. I like the efficiency. And I’ve seen truly excellent accuracy from the 7 WSM I built and the 6.5 SAUM I built.

Downsides are, I guess, rounds in the belly. If a guy is used to having say 5 + 1 of say 30-06 or whatever, having 3 + 1 might bug them. Hasn’t been a problem for me. YMMV.

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