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Thanks John.
4 it will be.

Mark,

Might also mention that it can also depend to a certain extent on resizing method. If you use a typical sizing die with an expander ball, neck brass gets "stressed" 3 times: first when squeezed down by the die's neck, second when pulled over the expander ball, and third when fired.

If you use a neck-bushing die or Lee Collet die, then the neck only gets stressed twice, when sized down and fired, which tends to result in more firings before necks start to crack--or get so hard they affect accuracy.

One of those things I should have realized, of course.
Need to look into Lee, and see if they make one for the K-Hornet. DUH!

This is true, both theoretically and in my experience. The amount of work-hardening depends on the amount of "working". Tight-necked chambers vs loose ones also seem to affect this. Flaring case mouths and crimping also seem to have a pretty noticeable effect - you tend to get little splits right there at the case mouth in quite short order.

Thank you, Craigster.

Too bad there's not a Lee collet neck sizer for the 6.5 PRC. Maybe some day.

has anyone used the lead pot method. you dip the neck in the lead til the case just forward of the head gets hot.

Some have tried adapting the 6.5 Creedmoor LCD to work with 6.5 PRC.

https://www.longrangehunting.com/th...using-6-5cm-lee-collet-die.240886/page-2

I've used the washer method to adapt a .35 Rem LCD to neck size .358 W and have had near perfect success.

It can work too--but involves heating up a pot of lead, which many handloaders don't have the equipment for these days.

It's a lot like the candle method, except if you know the temperature of the lead it's a little more precise.

The biggie, again, is NOT "over-annealing."

I have. The only negative is the time for the lead to reach temperature and possibly leaving small lead deposits in the neck.

When I did it, I left the fired primers in place and that way the air trapped in the case keeps the lead from entering the case very far and leaving lead deposits in the neck or shoulder. The small amount of soot in the neck after firing usually helps prevent the lead from sticking too. If it did that, a little poke with something like a small screwdriver would pop it out. All I ever saw was a small bit of lead left in the neck.

How long? I used Mule Deer’s method of counting how long it took for the brass to get hot about half way to the bade of the case.

The question was.....How many rounds do you fire without annealing?

Shrapnel answered that he has fired 10s of thousands of rounds without annealing! It was a correct answer to a direct question!

It seems you have a reading comprehension problem but that seems to be very common here on the fire! Please reread the question

I like to anneal every third or 4th firing it depends on when I can see that the neck seal is not consistent. When I see burned powder becoming a bit excessive around the outside of some of the necks it's time to anneal

Trystan

Tristi,
The OP ask exactly three questions: "Once I anneal, does the counter reset to zero? That is, can I mix brass that was fired 3x before annealing with brass that was fired 5x before annealing and not have problems? Or do I still need to track the number of firings?

None of the questions the OP asked resemble your misstated "How many rounds do you fire without annealing?"
It seems you're the one with the reading comprehension problem, among the other well known shortcomings you constantly demonstrate here.
GFY.

A different take on what to use as a temperature indicator.

https://www.thestalkingdirectory.co...ing-cartridge-brass.139418/#post-1282661

Ok, Al. Where did you get that annealing ring? Or, is it DIY?
Just gotta know.🤔

Funny you would mention that.

My father set a couple of records for his age group in F-Class when he was still shooting. When I asked him about annealing, he said that he had tried it and never saw any benefit from it.

I'm giving it a try anyway.


Okie John

Todd Kindler at the Varmints Den used to sell them, at least that's where I got mine.

I think its either F-Class John or Erik Cortina that have several youtube videos where the practice is tested. Check it out!