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Wolves are like covid, ebola, rabies, cholera, HIV, smallpox, bubonic plague, yellow fever, anthrax, etc. Just because theyre a nuisance doesn't make them any less a species deserving an equal place on this planet. Sarcasm.
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Wolves have been reviled world wide for centuries but they're still with us. They don't need our help to survive.
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No limit, no closed season would be a good start for wolves.
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"A" wolf wouldn't be any trouble, four hounds trail up into a pack of wolves , I think the hounds will come out on the short end of the stick.
My deceased uncle and his friends gave up on coon hunting around sw ohio. He said, you train a dog to trail and tree coons and before you can get to the dogs they're in a battle for their life with coyotes. The dogs become leery of getting very far from them and 'stand around under your feet'. I don't own trailing hounds, but hunt with relatives that do and over the years have watched their hounds tree a mountain lion, bring to bay Black bears and coyotes and run wolves. They are not chicken schidt dogs. Based on your comments, I would suggest you hook up with some houndsmen and see for yourself how effective hounds are on wolves or go on the internet and obtain a copy of the book HOW TO HUNT WOLVES by Adolph Balls. LOL
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On the wolves how many hounds are working the trail?
Great pictures you posted
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Irish Wolfhounds why not a Scottish Wolfhound? The fact of the matter the ones raised now are for show purposes and not for serious hunting. There is no breed of dog that will survive a Wolfpack attack.
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T Inman, your size comparison is not apples to apples. The photos I posted up are the Eastern Timber Wolf found in the Great Lakes states and Canadian southeastern provinces and tend to run smaller than the Gray Wolf of Alaska, Canadian western provinces and wolves introduced or immigrated to the lower western states. Do you have coyotes weighing 60 - 110 lbs. in your neck of the woods? This is the smallest wolf the group I hunted with tagged, a 62# female. You mentioned that entire packs of hounds were wiped out by wolves. Wisconsin has completed 4 wolf seasons and I recall learning of only a couple of hound casualties, and a few injuries. Your question: "When you all set loose, do you only do so on wolf tracks that you can reasonably conclude are from a lone wolf and not from those with a pack?"
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Our guide in Wyoming wouldn't let his lion dogs on a trail if it was too late. He didn't want the wolves to kill them if they were out overnight. Wolves are generally disliked because of the toll they take on game population. Killed a couple in Ontario over road kill deer bait. They are not dumb and are killing machines.
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[quote=tylerw02]Washington DC is already a huge wolf sanctuary. What more do they want? But I hope each greenie personally protects a wolf. Maybe the wolf can wear them as body armor. I believe you meant Weasel Sanctuary…..[/quote One already exists. . . It's called the District of Columbia...
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T Inman, your size comparison is not apples to apples. The photos I posted up are the Eastern Timber Wolf found in the Great Lakes states and Canadian southeastern provinces and tend to run smaller than the Gray Wolf of Alaska, Canadian western provinces and wolves introduced or immigrated to the lower western states. Do you have coyotes weighing 60 - 110 lbs. in your neck of the woods? This is the smallest wolf the group I hunted with tagged, a 62# female. You mentioned that entire packs of hounds were wiped out by wolves. Wisconsin has completed 4 wolf seasons and I recall learning of only a couple of hound casualties, and a few injuries. Your question: "When you all set loose, do you only do so on wolf tracks that you can reasonably conclude are from a lone wolf and not from those with a pack?"
Yes, that is the main objective. Thanks for the response. I figured those were smaller Great Lakes wolves and not western or Alaskan. Our coyotes average 30 or so pounds with bigger males getting to maybe 45 pounds. Those wolves in your pics looked 50-55 or so pounds which is why I guessed them to be “really big coyote sized”. Guess I was off a touch on guessing their weights. I have heard of a very select few houndsman purposefully setting loose on western wolves. I do not know how successful they have been. Wolves and especially wolf packs there are a death sentence to lion/bear hounds out there. I have been along when 5 or so were killed by wolves and don’t believe I know of a single houndsman who hasn’t lost at least a couple hounds. I am guessing it is a wolf size thing???
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Round oak cool pic your are correct a 100 to 125lb wolf is a nice one in Ontario. Coyotes top out at about 45lbs and don't look the same. Ever run across any that looked like they had domesticated dog in them? Saw a couple that were yellowish, kinda like a coy dog.
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You stated your wolf was 7'4" nose to tip of tail...what was the weight?
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ol mike, 3-4 on the low end, up to 10 on the high end.
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No limit, no closed season would be a good start for wolves. We're close to that in Idaho. Most seasons are open 11 months with a few year round. You do have to buy tags ($11 for residents, about $30 for non-res) but there's no limit to the number of tags you can buy. I think they'd drop the tags but the feds decreed that the IDFG would have to manage the wolves but didn't sent any money to do it. Somebody has to pay for it.
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Round oak cool pic your are correct a 100 to 125lb wolf is a nice one in Ontario. Coyotes top out at about 45lbs and don't look the same. Ever run across any that looked like they had domesticated dog in them? Saw a couple that were yellowish, kinda like a coy dog. No, I have not come across a coy dog version.
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No limit, no closed season would be a good start for wolves. We're close to that in Idaho. Most seasons are open 11 months with a few year round. You do have to buy tags ($11 for residents, about $30 for non-res) but there's no limit to the number of tags you can buy. I think they'd drop the tags but the feds decreed that the IDFG would have to manage the wolves but didn't sent any money to do it. Somebody has to pay for it. R C, does the state of Idaho compensate the owners of dogs or livestock for wolf predation?
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You stated your wolf was 7'4" nose to tip of tail...what was the weight? Unsure. I skinned him on the spot and was 5-6 miles in, and it was right at dark. They’re all legs so not as heavy as one would think for how long they are, or he was at least. 100 lbs maybe?
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I have heard of a very select few houndsman purposefully setting loose on western wolves. I do not know how successful they have been. Wolves and especially wolf packs there are a death sentence to lion/bear hounds out there. I have been along when 5 or so were killed by wolves and don’t believe I know of a single houndsman who hasn’t lost at least a couple hounds. I am guessing it is a wolf size thing??? Here is an observation that fellow hunters share with me when using trailing hounds. Wolves seem to be attracted to barking or baying hounds when pursing other game such as bears, coyotes or bobcats, but turn and run if hounds are trailing them. We have seen this happen after the hounds are put on a single wolf track and that wolf merges with other wolves. The pack will run a ways then split up leaving the hounds on the original wolf or hounds will trail a different one. My nephew and I witnessed this while posted up. He filled his tag as five wolves came loping by with a pack of hounds about 50 yards behind.
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You stated your wolf was 7'4" nose to tip of tail...what was the weight? Unsure. I skinned him on the spot and was 5-6 miles in, and it was right at dark. They’re all legs so not as heavy as one would think for how long they are, or he was at least. 100 lbs maybe? This one was 96 lbs. 98 lbs.
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Nice pictures I'm going to have to take the time to learn how to post pictures. I did not realize that hounds were used for wolves. Do you run bobcats I've seen them mess with the hounds by doubling back and circling. Living on the mostly flat praire I sure enjoy the north woods. My son and I hunted up by Thunderbay. Thanks
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