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You never asked... the rest is irrelevant to the subject.

Kent

It's a safe assumption. You know it is.

No magic, just inevitable human fallibility, the same thing that happens to those horribly unfortunate parents that unwittingly leave their infants in hot cars every year. It is inevitable that a fraction of drivers passing me will not see me.


I think it’s a lot, it is of enormous significance to me. To hear the comments of most drivers they think it’s a lot too.

You will reply that of course they are wrong because, in your opinion, they are wrong. The sort of smug pronouncement that PO’s people about cyclists. They think we’re all like you.

Few people run over cyclists on purpose, many who do were not otherwise violating traffic laws, they simply didn’t see and/or weren’t expecting the cyclist.

Pedestrians are forbidden on roadways because of the hazards to themselves and vehicles. Every other slow-moving vehicle, much larger and harder to miss than cyclists, has to be clearly marked.

Laws are always a compromise, is this case the law allows a hazardous situation. So I ride at my own risk and accept responsibility for assuming that risk.

And you know when I say it's ironic that cyclists complain about pedestrians, it's true... regardless of whatever projectionism you guys throw out there.

If it had been me about something hunting and it was pointed out as ironic when it was, I'd laugh and admit it... it's a cyclist thing I guess, you even eat your own.

Kent

See how easy it was. It's not that cyclists are hard to see. It's that motorists are inattentive. We sure went through a lot to get here.

Any time I see the words "hard to see," assuming daylight conditions, it means less likely to steal the attention of a marginally engaged driver.

OK I'll bite. I'm the one who started the thread, and I'm the chief complainer. Given that I don't ride my bike on roads where I impede traffic, I don't give motorists a reason to complain about me impeding traffic, and I have no reason to complain about motorists (and haven't) explain the irony.

Can I use Paul's assuming superpower to say... I bet you have ridden at sometime in your life, that you impeded traffic in some way, even in a parking lot or intersection or entrance/exit... some driver had to wait for you once.

Kent

And I didn't write my first pointed post in this thread until someone suggested a loud horn to scare pedestrians legally using recreational travel ways.

Kent

If you are a pedestrian or a cyclist in this world of moving objects you are at the bottom of the food chain. Some folks are more aware of their position than others, some not so much.

LOL. I bet at one point in your life you drank too much alcohol and did something that you later regretted.

So what.

No. my regrets are self-imposed without the excuse of a crutch... and there are many at my age.

Kent

Ridin, with crutches is frowned on here.

No, this is just more Paul Barnard smug wordplay.

To whit: The drivers are wrong, they don’t find bicycles hard to see, they’re just being inattentive.

or.... Drivers are wrong, bicycles do not present a road hazard to drivers if they ride in a legal manner


It means less likely to steal the attention of ANY driver.

I’m familiar with this phenomenon from my years on motorcycles, drivers are less likely to see a motorcycle approaching, so they sometimes pull out in front of one. Happens to every rider. This is why if you’re on a motorcycle and you’re smart, you ride with the headlight on, better yet with a strobe effect. Still can happen anyway.

Whatever the Paul Barnard version is, is irrelevant to the reality on the street of course.

I guess its just a matter of time before you run over a hard to see cyclist.

It's not if, it's when. You cyclists are crazy, runnin' over oneanotha and carrying on.

In my pickup? Could happen, could happen to anyone. They’re called “accidents”.

Didn’t you begin this thread by talking about how you won’t ride on the road?

He's obviously smarter than me, recognizing that there are plenty of drivers out there willing to excuse their own inattentiveness.

bottom of the food chain

I did a two hour mountain bike ride Sunday afternoon. Trail system was busy, lots of runners, hikers and cyclists. No problems.