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Wondering if there has been any changes or indications that the vax requirement for entry to Canada might be loosening?

Would really like to get back up.

Go to ArriveCan site and read about the 10 day quarantine.

The update is that the libs in Canada are just as stupid as those in the USA. Enough said. Edk

Vaccine requirements are due to expire soon—not sure exactly when and it’s really hard to find out with google. I would think we will know in a few days if they are to be extended.
The new Conservative leader has called for them to be abandoned but Trudeau is like a petulant little child and may have them extended.

My recollection from this summer was that when they were extended, it was through early September. Which is why I thought there was maybe news out there now.

Let's hope they can start using some logic in their thought process and not stick with the same to keep themselves from looking foolish.

Tarkio;
Good morning sir, I trust the day is behaving for you so far and you're well.

As my cyber friend to the east kkahmann has suggested, Crown Prince Shiny Pony is absolutely like a petulant child in many ways.

While I'm reluctant to speculate on what might be going on in his mind, it has to be weighing heavily upon him that the new Conservative leader has been elected with a previously unheard of majority of support. That coupled with some open moves by Saskatchewan and Alberta to distance/disconnect themselves from some of the Federal programs "might" have a savvy or even less than comatose politician to take notice.

We've also heard anonymous sources from within the Federal Libs making noise that they're hearing from constituents that the party has gone "too woke", so there is that pressure too.

All that said, in my view PM Socks is on a mission to transform our once great country into his - and/or his masters' - vision of a utopian woke paradise. If that's the case he/they will double down.

The political battle lines have been drawn over the past year with the new Conservative Leader being diametrically opposed to many if not most of Sock's vision.

Socks has the legacy media bought, paid for and whipped to a frenzy attacking the new leader already. That's not nothing.

That said, more than 50% of Canadians - who would participate in a poll and that alone is saying something - have said they no longer trust Canadian legacy media to give non biased reporting and go to other sources for their news.

On a bunch of levels we're playing for all the marbles up here Tarkio is what I'm attempting to articulate.

It's interesting times to be alive anyways sir, truly on both sides of the medicine line from what I can gather.

Regardless I do hope you can get back up here for sure and wish you good luck on all your hunts this fall.

Dwayne

I read the 1st article today on Toronto Star newspaper that liberal cabinet members are urging Trudeau to let the mandates on the border and ArriveCan app to die on Sept 21.

Thanks Karl, it's past due!

Any idea how many millions Canada has lost over that BS?

Wabigon; in his time in office "PM sparkle socks" as BC30Cal has wisely referred to Trudeau as, has cost the Canadian economy hundreds of billions of dollars on a variety of fronts. Trudeau needs to go. The vaccine / border requirements at this point in time are 100% ridiculous.

Far less than the US has lost.

Prevented me from buying an unloading auger for my combine from Medicine Hat Tractor Salvage.


They said they would try to ship it down to me.....never called back.

My friend sold their beach cabin and property for several million to a Canadian family so the non-resident taxes which were 6 figures each year are no longer collected. They bought a beautiful summer place on Lopez Island so their money came back home.

I fixed it for you.

Taxes will be collected regardless of who owns it.

Jim

1OntarioJim;
Good afternoon to you sir, I hope you're getting the weather you all need out east and you and those who matter to you are well.

Regarding the property tax structure here - in our part of BC - there's a "standard" amount levied with a "regular" home owner grant which means it must be your usual place of residence.

If it's not that, then the taxes go up about 25% - again here.

There's also a tariff added to properties above $2million, which I believe is another partial percent, but isn't nothing.

If I'm not wrong that would be the non resident taxes Aces was referring to.

All the best and good luck on your hunts this fall.

Dwayne

Like the Beach Boys, Wouldn't it be nice if we could wakeup, in the morning when all this is over!

Maybe just be glad to wake up in the morning 😳. Even THAT is never a guarantee!

The Toronto Sun newspaper is reporting this morning that the ‘Order in Council’ which authorizes the vaccine mandate, will be allowed to die on September 30.
It’s called the ‘Pollivier effect’ but I think we owe a big ‘Thank You’ to the truckers. Also, before Twitter shut it down, hashtag #@Trudeaumustgo, had over half a million responses.

I think the "Poilievre Effect" is exactly correct. Trudeau is in trouble, and he knows it.
The legacy media will soon have no choice but to report the facts and quit supporting the Liberals so blatantly. GD

Just my luck, they drop the jap mandate just two weeks after I was scheduled to go on a moose hunt. Liberals suck!!!

Dwayne is (as usual) correct.

The taxes for a Canadian citizen that uses the property as their primary residence is a hell of a lot different than what a non-Canadian pays taxes for when they use it part time. It was built in the 60’s and owned by the family since then. They watched as their taxes approached 6 figures per year for something they maybe used for 2 months out of the year. During covid there was a proposal by the Canadian government to either increase or add an additional tax on non-Canadian owned property which would have pushed their tax liability to a solid 6 figures. They have money and likely would have kept their family cabin but not being able to access it at the same time as well as their taxes going up AGAIN encouraged them to sell.

My buddy was frustrated but he, like I, was of the belief that a country penalizing non-Canadians was their right and if the shoe was on the other foot we’d support it. It unfortunately forced their hand in deciding to sell the Canada cabins and acreage. They were just one family but through their taxes as well as all the money we all spent at the marina, stores, pubs, rental yards, restaurants, gas stations etc that money of theirs /ours ain’t coming back. They were prevented by some ordinance or law from renting their Canada cabin so when they weren’t staying there it wasn’t able to generate income and therefore it just sat empty. More druggies and losers were showing up on V.I BC and in the past several years had issues with burglars despite it being remote and in the woods so that became a concern too.

They rolled a part of the sale into a beautiful log “cabin” on Lopez island in the San Juan’s but at 5600 sq/ft it’s less a cabin and more of a big ass house. Even being taxed at the 4million purchase price their taxes are a fraction of what they were paying in Canada while never having to worry about being forbidden from utilizing their home. They also have it booked almost solid for 9 month of the year leaving June, July and August for family and friends. The difference in the costs and taxes of 2 places that are probably 50 miles (as the crow flies) from each other but in different countries are incomparable…..and incomprehensible. If Canada hadn’t become so despotic during the bullshit covid crap my buddy would still own the cabin and would continue paying the ridiculous amount of taxes while being forbidden from renting it to anyone else to help offset some of that blood money. I’m not sure how big of a swing their yearly costs have enjoyed but knowing what their big costs are I estimate their roughly saving/making, by a conservative estimate, over $110,000 each year more than when they owned the Canada place.

Government will surely extract its pound of flesh from the current owner but I GUARANTEE you that they aren’t paying anywhere close to what my buddy paid……they’re just one family.

Is there a website to go to, to learn for sure?

Aces—got a friend here much the same. Owned 3 separate pieces —one for deer hunting —one for moose and one he built a million dollar log cabin on Lake Nipigon. 2nd time his wife was ordered into quarantine because there was screw-up on her Covid test—he got mad—sold the whole works for less than 700 grand. The guy is Native but is dual citizen—made his money in Wisconsin and he’s got lots. Me and 3 other fishing guides are gonna miss him badly.

Canada is run by stinking communists!

Whoever votes for the commies like Trudeau, are communist as well!!!

Rumor has it restrictions will be dropped by the end of September, no date set. Sparkle socks is too busy singing karaoke in London

As I understand it—and Iam no authority on civics in Canada—the OIC (Order in Council) just dies on September 30–it has to be extended by the PMO (Prime Ministers Office). Traditionally the PMO has given a 10 day notice when extending previous OIC’s. We might know more by the end of the day as The Shiny Pony is supposed to be in Parliament today for question period.

The OIC authorizes random Covid testing—mandates the use of ArriveCan app and requires those wishing to enter Canada to be fully vaccinated. All that goes away on Sept 30 without direct action by the Prime Minister.

I can’t see any political upside to extending it but it’s hard to predict what a petulant child will do.

The news reports suggest that masking will still be required for anyone flying or using the trains. I believe this requirement is just for those crossing the border by those means.

Jim

O, for the good old days!

Hoping I can paddle into Canada again without the need for a vax. I've missed those fishing trips.

Email the Minister.



Wed, Sep 21, 9:47 AM (1 day ago)
to jean-yves.duclos,

Dear Health Minister,

I must congratulate you on the anticipated September 30th lifting of the vaccination requirements and the ArriveCan App made optional for international travellers. As we have learned more about COVID 19, the previous requirements have proved mostly redundant and harmful to international commerce and travel. In my 2022 international travel, I have yet to find the ArriveCan App beneficial to my ingress to Canada at all.

I must petition you to lift the mask mandate for travel by planes and trains. As stated above, as we learned more about COVID 19, we have learned that masks are mostly ineffective at inhibiting the spread of the virus. If a person is immunocompromised, as before, it should be their responsibility to protect themselves and not the responsibility of others. As a person whose skin breaks out from mask wear, I look forward to not having to wear a mask while traveling.

Regards,

Maybe I’ll be able to “steam” north in my boat next summer and take my time fishing as I go rather than shipping it. That’ll be far more fun….I dunno about cheaper but definitely more fun.

OTTAWA - The federal government has announced it is dropping all COVID-19 border restrictions for anyone entering Canada, including: proof of COVID-19 vaccination, quarantine and isolation requirements as well as all pre- or on-arrival COVID-19 testing.
Canada is also making the ArriveCan application optional, and is lifting the mask mandate and health check requirements for travellers on planes and trains.

Declaring the imminent end of these restrictions—effective Oct. 1— marks a major milestone in Canada's pandemic response.


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Deciding to allow the special orders that for months have upheld Canada's special pandemic authorizations under the Quarantine Act to expire means:

Foreign nationals won't need to be vaccinated to enter the country;
Incoming travellers to major airports won't be subject to random mandatory COVID-19 tests;
Unvaccinated Canadians will no longer have to isolate when they return;
Travellers will not have to monitor or report if they develop COVID-19 symptoms upon arrival;
Submitting public health information through the ArriveCan app prior to landing will become optional; and
It'll no longer be mandatory to wear a face mask while travelling on planes or trains.
Cruise ship measures are also being lifted, though passenger and crew protection guidelines will remain to "align with the approach used in the United States."

The government says the removal of these border measures is the result of modelling indicating that Canada has "largely passed" the peak of the Omicron wave of infections; Canada's high vaccination and lower hospitalization and death rates; as well as the availability of boosters, rapid tests, and COVID-19 treatments.

Officials said that while Canada is lifting the mask mandate, travellers are still "strongly recommended" to wear high-quality and well-fitting masks and make "informed decisions" when travelling.

The government is reminding travellers that they should not do so if they have COVID-19 symptoms, and they will have to still follow any provincial or territorial requirements.

The government says that COVID-19 will remain one of the communicable diseases listed in the Quarantine Act, and travellers who are sick upon arrival in Canada are being asked to inform a staff member or border services officer, as they "may then be referred to a quarantine officer who will decide whether the traveller needs further medical assessment."

Foreign nationals will still be required to meet the entry requirements under the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, and will have to provide appropriate travel and immigration documentation in order to be eligible to enter Canada.

This is a breaking news story. More to come…

Minister Duclos made the announcement this morning. Sparkle Socks is off the Anchorage Alaska to observe the northern lights—at least that was reported on my newsfeed this morning.
The electrical authority of Maine tried to send some linemen to Nova Scotia to help with the hurricane relief—thank god they didn’t have ArriveCan filled out properly so we’re denied entry.

About time!!

Yep!
I will be heading to Canada in a few days to visit friends who I had told that I would see as soon as the mandate was dropped.

drover

"The Witch is dead, Ding Dong"!

Ok, does this mean I can drive to Alaska through Canada from the lower 48 without being vaccinated? I do have anti-bodies from a previous January 2022 infection. Will a Canadian road house allow us lodging? Can we walk around without masks in Canada?

I think so Hastings.

If in doubt, call Canada customs.

I belong to the Maryland Motor Truck Association. Every week they send out their news letter that pertains to the trucking industry. This was in yesterday's news letter.

Canada's COVID-19 Vaccine Mandate Expires September 30.

Health Canada has announced that the COVID-19 vaccine requirement, along with other associated travel rules, will expire on September 30, 2022. Effective October 1, 2022, all travelers entering Canada, regardless of citizenship, will no longer be required to:

Submit public health information through the ArriveCAN app or website;
Provide proof of vaccination;
Undergo pre- or on-arrival testing;
Carry out COVID-19-related quarantine or isolation;
Monitor and report if they develop signs or symptoms of COVID-19 upon arriving to Canada.

Praise he Lord, the panic is subsiding. I never did panic, but about half the people I know panicked and some enjoyed every minute of it. Got to stay home and peck on a computer all day. Not get showered or dressed to go to work or school. As Steve said, they followed the science. No matter how stupid it sounded. The most scholarly and up to date scientists had the know how to prevent a worldwide catastrophe. Except it wasn't a catastrophe and nothing they did worked. As an RN NP told me, it's a highly contagious virus, it can't be stopped. And it wasn't.

Do we still need the jab to travel to the land of the free and home of the brave?

Yes, you do. This is one thing the Americans on the forum seem to have missed. During all the time they were cursing Canada for a commie enclave, the US was preventing unvaxed Canadians from entering the US, and they still are. Pot, meet kettle. GD

Vaccinated or not an American citizen cannot be denied entry back into the US.
I have crossed many times in the last 2 years—twice I was ordered into quarantine in Canada— but I have never been asked if I was vaccinated by US Customs.

That is true of an American citizen but not for a Canadian. They have to be vaxed to enter the US. Hopefully, that will end soon. GD

That is true of an American citizen but not for a Canadian. They have to be vaxed to enter the US. Hopefully, that will end soon. GD

I was contacted by an outfitter friend of mine yesterday and as of tomorrow you can enter Canada without vax. The ArriveCan app is no longer required but still an option if you choose.
Now if the Morons in Washington would reciprocate we could all move on.

Osky

Sad to say, we are ruled at present by the Vichy government installed by some arm of the NWO.

Yes you can in answer to the above

Technically you could have an issue entering Alaska with out being vaccinated

I just flew into Toronto on my way to Newfoundland and no masks required as of today. Also as was indicated above the ArriveCAN app wasn’t even mentioned by Customs. LOTS of people maskless and seemingly indifferent to past COVID restrictions. HALLELUJAH!!!

Amen to that!!

My wife is from Quebec, I guess now I have no more excuses to visit the inlaws!

Well the Canadian dollar is so low now you can almost go for free. Between the dollar and covid restrictions gone. Americans should flood the country this fall and winter.

Phil, I’ve been meaning to get up your way one of these days and have a crack at one of those gigantic northern whitetails!

Thinking about driving the Alcan for the 15 th time. How high is gas in most of Canada. I know up north it gets really high but that’s normal. US funds or a close guess please. Edk

~$4.50 US per gallon.

Jordan;
Good afternoon my friend, I hope the day is behaving for you all on your side of the big hills and you and your fine family are well.

If my math is correct, we're at $1.93CDN/liter so that'd be $7.30CDN/US gallon, which would in turn be $5.35US/US gallon here in Bring Cash.

Up into Muncho Lake or at Liard Hot Springs it was $2.35CDN/liter and in Dawson City we paid $2.45CDN/liter = $6.80US/US gallon - again if my cyphering is correct.

We saw a good smattering of folks going up on those "sports adventure" type bikes, usually in groups and while they'd get wet and buggy, it wouldn't require a call to the bank for a fuel up.

The other thing we saw a double handful of was Unimog, Man, Steyr and either a Volvo or Scania converted to "overlander" rigs. Mostly they were running European plates too Jordan, so they had to get it here!

Our youngest daughter was paying close to Dawson City prices in the Lower Mainland this weekend too she said.

Anyways that's a few months old info for sure, but hopefully someone finds it useful.

All the best to you all this week and good hunting.

Dwayne

The wife and her friend went to a rock and gem show in Washington state. No problem, or for that matter, vaccination status either side.

Thanks for the gas price gentleman. Kinda what I was figuring. I think the motor home stays home. I really liked the Alcan in the 70 s with no traffic or cops. Course I was younger and just a touch dumber then. Edk

Hi Dwayne,

I hope all is well with you! As usual, your response gives very relevant info. While I answered the question about average gas prices in most of Canada, you answered the unasked, but probably more relevant, question of gas prices in BC. We're at about $1.55 per liter here right now. It always makes me shudder when I fill up the tank in BC.

Good hunting!

I've heard they can't stop you from entering the U.S. (Alaska) if you are a citizen of the U.S.

Call both US, and Canada customs.