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This war is mostly about money laundering. The rest is secondary.


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Originally Posted by Tarquin
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I really don’t see how the behavior of the Ukes 80 years ago reflects on their grand (and great-grand) children fighting for their country today.

We don’t hold even the Germans or the Japs to that standard. Not even the Vietnamese, really. Might as well mention Israel, while I’m at it. Yeah, Russia and the Holodomor. I’ll see your 30,000 victims, and raise you 5 million Ukrainians forcibly starved by Stalin.

By that standard, due to the large number of black eyes the US has suffered, this country doesn’t deserve support, but it does. Despite slavery, Jim Crow, Indian wars, McCarthyism, Roe v Wade, our children aren’t responsible for our and our parents mistakes.


Point well taken. Remsen's logic is flawed. I presume he also favors reparations for slavery? crazy

If we’re going to be ethnic about our rants, Stalin was Georgian.


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Originally Posted by NVhntr
This war is mostly about money laundering. The rest is secondary.

Exactly


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Originally Posted by Tarquin
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Houston /Toot is a pure bitch. It’s that simple and her posts prove it.


When you're reduced to name calling all you do is advertise that you're impotent to address the actual substance of his arguments. Point for Houston.
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I’ve asked several times and no one will answer.

For the ukraine virtue signallers, how many have donated from their own pocket to the war effort?


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Originally Posted by Tyrone
I don't think Russia is the bad guys in this by any stretch. I don't think their gov't is any more corrupt than ours. Dead oligarchs you say? I'll see you that and raise you 60 bodies associated with the Clintons alone. I won't even mention the false flags done courtesy of our deep state.

Russia may be tough on homosexuals, perverts and traitors, but at the end of the day Russia is still a nation of laws.

No, it isn't. Poisoning Navalny wasn't legal, or was the murder of all those oligarchs the past few months. Moreover, just because something is "legal" doesn't make it right. Political dissent is essentially illegal in Russia. It's not far different from when Solzhenitsyn wrote the Gulag. Russia's attack on Ukraine was certainly a violation of all moral and international norms.


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I’ve asked several times and no one will answer.

For the ukraine virtue signallers, how many have donated from their own pocket to the war effort?

Another completely irrelevant question. The grasp of logic here is sorely lacking.


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Stalin starved the Ukrainians, the Ukrainians hooked up with the Nazis to kill Jews and Russians, there's enough bad blood between them not to care who wins. That's where I stand on the matter. Neither bunch is worth my time and trouble, or tax dollars.


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Originally Posted by Tarquin
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I’ve asked several times and no one will answer.

For the ukraine virtue signallers, how many have donated from their own pocket to the war effort?

Another completely irrelevant question. The grasp of logic here is sorely lacking.

Logic is not a part or even a parcel of his vocabulary.

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Originally Posted by Houston_2
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I’ve asked several times and no one will answer.

For the ukraine virtue signallers, how many have donated from their own pocket to the war effort?

Another completely irrelevant question. The grasp of logic here is sorely lacking.

Logic is not a part or even a parcel of his vocabulary.


It's a scarce commodity on this forum that's for sure. LOL! grin


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Originally Posted by ratsmacker
Stalin starved the Ukrainians, the Ukrainians hooked up with the Nazis to kill Jews and Russians, there's enough bad blood between them not to care who wins. That's where I stand on the matter. Neither bunch is worth my time and trouble, or tax dollars.

Yet Ukraine present leadership is supposedly Jewish.

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Originally Posted by Tarquin
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I don't think Russia is the bad guys in this by any stretch. I don't think their gov't is any more corrupt than ours. Dead oligarchs you say? I'll see you that and raise you 60 bodies associated with the Clintons alone. I won't even mention the false flags done courtesy of our deep state.

Russia may be tough on homosexuals, perverts and traitors, but at the end of the day Russia is still a nation of laws.

No, it isn't. Poisoning Navalny wasn't legal, or was the murder of all those oligarchs the past few months. Moreover, just because something is "legal" doesn't make it right. Political dissent is essentially illegal in Russia. It's not far different from when Solzhenitsyn wrote the Gulag. Russia's attack on Ukraine was certainly a violation of all moral and international norms.


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Originally Posted by Tarquin
Originally Posted by Dutch
I really don’t see how the behavior of the Ukes 80 years ago reflects on their grand (and great-grand) children fighting for their country today.

We don’t hold even the Germans or the Japs to that standard. Not even the Vietnamese, really. Might as well mention Israel, while I’m at it. Yeah, Russia and the Holodomor. I’ll see your 30,000 victims, and raise you 5 million Ukrainians forcibly starved by Stalin.

By that standard, due to the large number of black eyes the US has suffered, this country doesn’t deserve support, but it does. Despite slavery, Jim Crow, Indian wars, McCarthyism, Roe v Wade, our children aren’t responsible for our and our parents mistakes.


Point well taken. Remsen's logic is flawed. I presume he also favors reparations for slavery? crazy

Try reading what I wrote, rather than how someone responded to what they thought I wrote. Ukraine is a corrupt country and has a long history of operating as a thugocracy. Ask Hunter and Joe about it. Their bloodthirsty ways are also a matter of history, not just from 80 years ago. I take neither side in this war but I know, quite well, that Ukraine doesn't deserve the support its getting from the west. They are as bad as the Russians.


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Originally Posted by Remsen
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...the bizarre lauding of Ukraine as the home to freedom and justice....

I have not seen that anywhere. Could point us to examples of that? It's a sincere request.

Try this for starters

Nothing in that statement calls Ukraine "the home to freedom and justice."

It does state that Ukraine is fighting for its freedom from Russian aggression. I don't think that's an unfair statement.

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Originally Posted by Houston_2
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Stalin starved the Ukrainians, the Ukrainians hooked up with the Nazis to kill Jews and Russians, there's enough bad blood between them not to care who wins. That's where I stand on the matter. Neither bunch is worth my time and trouble, or tax dollars.

Yet Ukraine present leadership is supposedly Jewish.

You claimed to be Jewish back when you posted as Old Toots...and still waiting for you to publish the scandalous child support proceedings you say I'm involved in.


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Originally Posted by Remsen
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Originally Posted by ratsmacker
Stalin starved the Ukrainians, the Ukrainians hooked up with the Nazis to kill Jews and Russians, there's enough bad blood between them not to care who wins. That's where I stand on the matter. Neither bunch is worth my time and trouble, or tax dollars.

Yet Ukraine present leadership is supposedly Jewish.

You claimed to be Jewish back when you posted as Old Toots...and still waiting for you to publish the scandalous child support proceedings you say I'm involved in.


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Originally Posted by Houston_2
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Originally Posted by ratsmacker
Stalin starved the Ukrainians, the Ukrainians hooked up with the Nazis to kill Jews and Russians, there's enough bad blood between them not to care who wins. That's where I stand on the matter. Neither bunch is worth my time and trouble, or tax dollars.

Yet Ukraine present leadership is supposedly Jewish.

You claimed to be Jewish back when you posted as Old Toots...and still waiting for you to publish the scandalous child support proceedings you say I'm involved in.


You need to remain unaligned.

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Originally Posted by Tarquin
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I really don’t see how the behavior of the Ukes 80 years ago reflects on their grand (and great-grand) children fighting for their country today.

We don’t hold even the Germans or the Japs to that standard. Not even the Vietnamese, really. Might as well mention Israel, while I’m at it. Yeah, Russia and the Holodomor. I’ll see your 30,000 victims, and raise you 5 million Ukrainians forcibly starved by Stalin.

By that standard, due to the large number of black eyes the US has suffered, this country doesn’t deserve support, but it does. Despite slavery, Jim Crow, Indian wars, McCarthyism, Roe v Wade, our children aren’t responsible for our and our parents mistakes.


Point well taken. Remsen's logic is flawed. I presume he also favors reparations for slavery? crazy

Dutch, when the Tarqueen agrees with you, you may want to reconsider your point of view


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Originally Posted by irfubar
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Originally Posted by Dutch
I really don’t see how the behavior of the Ukes 80 years ago reflects on their grand (and great-grand) children fighting for their country today.

We don’t hold even the Germans or the Japs to that standard. Not even the Vietnamese, really. Might as well mention Israel, while I’m at it. Yeah, Russia and the Holodomor. I’ll see your 30,000 victims, and raise you 5 million Ukrainians forcibly starved by Stalin.

By that standard, due to the large number of black eyes the US has suffered, this country doesn’t deserve support, but it does. Despite slavery, Jim Crow, Indian wars, McCarthyism, Roe v Wade, our children aren’t responsible for our and our parents mistakes.


Point well taken. Remsen's logic is flawed. I presume he also favors reparations for slavery? crazy

Dutch, when the Tarqueen agrees with you, you may want to reconsider your point of view

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