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Considering a Ruger American Predator .308 with an 18" threaded barrel specifically for deer/pig hunting where ranges will likely not exceed 200 yards.
This will not be a bench or bipod deal and handiness is a primary goal.
What would be a good choice for a direct screw-on can?
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I've got way too many cans and IMO Tbac ultra 7 is what you want on a hunting bolt gun. The 1.7" diameter cans are a pinch quieter (nomad, dominus, etc) but you'll see them in the scope which drives me nuts. Avoid heavy "full auto rated" stuff as they'll kill your balance on a hunting rifle.
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Yeah, I'm not looking for a spec ops can. Quiet is good. Light is good.
I'll check out the Tbac.
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What’s your budget? There’s some $500-700 options these days that are lighter than options from 3-4 years ago.
Now with even more aplomb
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I’ve got a Q full Nelson. Direct thread. My first, so nothing to compare it too.
I like it.
Ive got a CGS Hyperion waiting for approval.
When i bought it I’d narrowed it down to 3.
TBAC ultra 9, dead air Nomad LT, and the Hyperion.
The dead air is actually a KGM made can.
The TBAC guy says the Hyperion is a quieter can, so i went with it.
Bauer precision was runnning a 10% sale, and had it in stock.
Dave
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Added,
I shoot it on a 6.5 cm and 6.5 prc.
Dave
�The man who complains about the way the ball bounces is likely to be the one who dropped it.� Lou Holtz
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No budget, really, but I expect to pay more than the $599 MSRP of the rifle.
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The SilencerCo Harvester Evo is a great option for what you are looking for. As is the Dead Air Nomad.
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I’ve also got a Hyperion waiting for the paperwork. I shot my buddy’s on a 6.5creed, 25-06 and 300PRC next to my other buddy’s suppressor ( can’t remember the model, but 5-6 years ago it was “top of the line”) and the Hyperion was waaay easier on the ears. We shot it out of my garage and it was very quiet.
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I've got way too many cans and IMO Tbac ultra 7 is what you want on a hunting bolt gun. The 1.7" diameter cans are a pinch quieter (nomad, dominus, etc) but you'll see them in the scope which drives me nuts. Avoid heavy "full auto rated" stuff as they'll kill your balance on a hunting rifle. ^This. I don't even know how many I own now. They are very light, very accurate, the machining is so consistent you can juggle different cans and mounts and not get a POI shift. I have one Dominus, it's nice, though kind of fat and ugly. A 7" Ultra is what you want.
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There's two ways to go here-
1.) Get the quietest possible can and sit around and ooh and ahh over how it sounds.
2.) Get something that doesn't suck to use.
On a bench gun, those might be the same thing, but on a field rifle something like the 13" Hyperion is of little interest to me.
I want the smallest lightest can that I can safely use for 1-3 shots in a hunting scenario without hearing damage. I'm fine running ear pro at the range, as that's usually a necessity due to others or supersonic crack anyhow.
For reference I have the Nomad L which is essentially tied with the Hyperion decibel-wise depending on which day it was tested.
Yeah, it's quiet but I still wear light hearing protection just for the bullet crack when I'm shooting groups. It balances fine on a 16" rem varmint in a krg bravo but that's a 12-13 pound rig with bipod and dmr 3-21.
On a Sporter rifle you want the ultra 7 if not the ultra 5. AB suppressors has some cool reflex designs that are light weight titanium cans. I want their 4 baffle model for a shorty 22 creed Montana.
If I could only have 2 cans for rifles I'd have an oss for all my gas guns and a tbac ultra 7 for the bolt actions. That's after spending a couple grand on tax stamps alone.
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I only have one suppressor for centerfire right now and it's the Silencer Co Omega 300. I like it alot, it does everything I need a suppressor to do. It does add about 1 lb of weight to the barrel, but I've lost that much chopping barrels down on some of the rifles to keep my barrel and suppressor length under 26".
Also I never see my suppressor in my scope. Most of my hunting scopes start around 2.5X to 3.5X and I never see the suppressor on the low end. I do see it in my red dot on my .300 Blk AR, but it disappears as soon as I use the 3X magnifier for longer shots.
I do think the TBAC suppressor are probably some of the best you can buy if not the best from research I did prior to my purchase. I actually wanted a YHM Resonator when I made my first purchase, but got a good price on the Omega and it was on my list of options. I got my Omega 300 and a Sparrow for about $200 more than I could purchase an Ultra 7 for at that time.
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I have a Rugged Razor 7.62 that I use on my .308, two different .243's, and on an AR-15 in .223 (with the .223 endcap).
Ed
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I have a Dead Air Nomad L it is direct thread 8.4". No Barrel length restrictions. It is heavy compared to some but it is quiet. I've used it on 6.5G 12" to 20", 6.5CM 20", .308 18"-20", 556 10"-18" with no issues at all. I am to the point my non threaded rifles don't get to come out and play anymore. While you are waiting on your stamp to be approved you may as well get a .22LR can as well.
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The SilencerCo Harvester Evo is a great option for what you are looking for. As is the Dead Air Nomad. Two great choices.
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...you may as well get a .22LR can as well. Got one. Silencerco Sparrow on a CZ 455 threaded barrel. With RWS subsonic HP, it is spooky accurate and quiet.
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Looks like Thunderbeast is having trouble keeping up with demand. All out of stock at Silencer Shop.
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Looks like Thunderbeast is having trouble keeping up with demand. All out of stock at Silencer Shop. That's been a pretty consistent issue with TBAC. Great product though.
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Looks like Thunderbeast is having trouble keeping up with demand. All out of stock at Silencer Shop. That's been a pretty consistent issue with TBAC. Great product though. FWIW, LGS chatter. Guy beyond counter told me TBAC was having cans made by KGM. Dead cans are made by KGM. . Serial number is KGM-xxxx Next on my list of the KGM r6.5.
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The Hyperion is listed as 9.5”. Not 13”.
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