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The Epoch Times( a great weekly newspaper) is reporting that vaccinated and boosted people now make up the majority of covid deaths according to the CDC. We were first told that getting vaccinated would prevent getting covid-19. Wrong. We were then told the so-called vaccine would reduce serious illness. Wrong. Then it was it would prevent hospitalization. Another lie. Finally were told that it would prevent death. Another lie. Google the article it's a must read.
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That's because most people are now vaccinated, but yeah I get your point.
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58% vaxxed vs. 42% unvaxxed
What I heard last week
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The vast majority of deaths attributed to covid are in folks 50+, and even then it is heavily weighted to 70+.
I’d expect vac rates to follow similar suit. Most old folks got the shot. Many younger did not. The death rate of vaxed seem to reflect that.
I don’t find the vax to be much more worrying than covid itself. Which is to say, not very.
The worlds reaction to it however……. Hell, the Chinese, who allegedly developed it, are still locking down millions and their economy along with it.
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That's because most people are now vaccinated, but yeah I get your point. And because the jab does not reduce the likelihood of infection, hospitalization, or death.
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That's because most people are now vaccinated, but yeah I get your point. Bullschitt!
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The vast majority of deaths attributed to covid are in folks 50+, and even then it is heavily weighted to 70+.
I’d expect vac rates to follow similar suit. Most old folks got the shot. Many younger did not. The death rate of vaxed seem to reflect that.
I don’t find the vax to be much more worrying than covid itself. Which is to say, not very.
The worlds reaction to it however……. Hell, the Chinese, who allegedly developed it, are still locking down millions and their economy along with it. Factor in those that die from the vax[unnecessarily]. Is it a 'win-win' or 'loss-loss'?
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A friend unvaxed, is home sick, with his third covid infection. Tested and confirmed covid. We were discussing herd immunity, on the phone last night. It doesn't seem to be working on him. Anyone else seen this scenario playing out with friends. He said it's not real bad, like the last one, but still flu like, headache, joint ache, hasn't lost his taste ever, in three bouts. Just wondering what others experienced!
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I meaningful number would be two numbers. The percentage of vaxxed testing positive, vs the percentage of non-vaxxed testing positive.
Considering that the majority of people vaxxed and un-vaxxed will simply blow their nose and continue on their mission, we really only get visibility on a fraction of the people actually infected, who seek a test or medical help.
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Old people have more risk from covid than from vax.
Young males, we do not know which is the higher risk. They did not do a young male controlled test.
Choose your anecdotes:
We present autopsy findings of a 22-year-old man who developed chest pain 5 days after the first dose of the BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine and died 7 hours later.
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Both COVID-19 and the vaccine were designed to reduce the world's population.
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That's because most people are now vaccinated, but yeah I get your point. Actually, the vaccine was never intended to last forever and was designed towards specific strains that no longer exist. Its the same way with the flu vaccine. Just because you got a flu shot 5 years ago and then caught the flu today does not mean that the flu vaccine you got 5 years ago did not work. If you go out and read the announcement from the CDC, its not some whistleblower saying the vaccine did not work. The point of the announcement was to inform people that they should stay current with the boosters much like getting a flu shot every year. This is not something new. We were informed of this when the original vaccines came out.
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That's because most people are now vaccinated, but yeah I get your point. Actually, the vaccine was never intended to last forever and was designed towards specific strains that no longer exist. Its the same way with the flu vaccine. Just because you got a flu shot 5 years ago and then caught the flu today does not mean that the flu vaccine you got 5 years ago did not work. If you go out and read the announcement from the CDC, its not some whistleblower saying the vaccine did not work. The point of the announcement was to inform people that they should stay current with the boosters much like getting a flu shot every year. This is not something new. We were informed of this when the original vaccines came out. What'd you say your username was pre 10/2022?
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We were informed of this when the original vaccines came out. When was that? In June 2021 the CDC hadn't yet recommended any boosters for anyone, and only allowed that people "most at risk may need one". https://archive.ph/SDHy2
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We were informed of this when the original vaccines came out. When was that? In June 2021 the CDC hadn't yet recommended any boosters for anyone, and only allowed that people "most at risk may need one". https://archive.ph/SDHy2If you had gotten vaccinated, you would have gotten a vaccine card that had 5 spaces on it for when you got shots implying that there could be more after the initial 2.
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BubbaG, Some of what say simply is not accurate. Much of what we were told early on was not true in order to get people to submit to the vaccine.
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Both COVID-19 and the vaccine were designed to reduce the world's population. Commies can't take over a democracy. All the libs flip when they wait 4 hours in a food line. Commies need a crisis. Covid 19 response was a cannonball dive into the center of of a hot tub, splashing all the old ladies in the face: a) Pfizer and Moderna each make $100M b) The internet got scrubbed for misinformation in a way that would make Goebbels proud. c) Everyone got $15/hour to stay home, so hunters had to grind thier own venison. d) The big tech bull market ended. d) We got Jimmy Carter style inflation.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. -Ernest Hemingway The man who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything.-- Edward John Phelps
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JFC....if the "vaccine" was a vaccine, then nearly NONE of the vaccinated would be dying from covid. Come on, men. Use your brains. How do so many of you play pretend all day long?
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BubbaG you ain't gonna change people's minds even if the science is clear. Science minded folks understand and those without STEM degrees appear not to except for the very few that have an agenda.
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I gave up trying to change people's minds about anything years ago. I could care less if people get vaccinated or not. I do think its sad that people hate each other based on vaccination status.
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