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Originally Posted by Northman
Funny listening to MAGAs on this website who would cuss out people, who where against the war in Iraq or Afghan...

HOW DARE YOU BESMIRCH OUR GREAT NATION AND ITS WARRIORS... not to forgot OUR FLAG... and FREEEEDUMB.

Now they are they biggest doves in the world and would of course reduce the largest military force in the world to a miniumum, and keep them all inside US borders.


And totally agree that the US should cut its defense spending from nearly $700 Billion a year to $100 Billion a year...
And all MAGA Republicans would sing Kumbaya , while China took over Asia, Russia Eastern Europe, and Iran Middle East.


Sounds like MAGAs bought the Russian disinformation warfare package, hook, line and sinker, to become isolationist, so every other dictatorship could step up to the plate.
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Originally Posted by Northman
Funny listening to MAGAs on this website who would cuss out people, who where against the war in Iraq or Afghan...

HOW DARE YOU BESMIRCH OUR GREAT NATION AND ITS WARRIORS... not to forgot OUR FLAG... and FREEEEDUMB.

Now they are they biggest doves in the world and would of course reduce the largest military force in the world to a miniumum, and keep them all inside US borders.


And totally agree that the US should cut its defense spending from nearly $700 Billion a year to $100 Billion a year...
And all MAGA Republicans would sing Kumbaya , while China took over Asia, Russia Eastern Europe, and Iran Middle East.


Sounds like MAGAs bought the Russian disinformation warfare package, hook, line and sinker, to become isolationist, so every other dictatorship could step up to the plate.


Yo, Walt!

Refresh my memory here, if you will. How many wars was the US involved in during the Trump administration? How many potential conflicts were avoided during the same period? How many historic peace accords were created and signed by Trump.

How many foreign policy disasters were caused by Byedan? Do you Libs support what he has done to the US since he was installed? How about the Afghanistan withdrawal? The oil industry? The economy in general and our standing in the world now?


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Originally Posted by Hastings
The USA could be filthy rich and safe, trading equally with all nations and only using our navy to protect our trading ships. What goes on across the ocean needs not to involve us. This Ukraine vs NATO crap is just another quagmire for us.


I would rather say, if Private corporations whernt allowed to buy political favors, to outsource, union bust, cut cut cut worker benefits, the US workers would be much better off.


Europe, beeing so close to Russia, knew, after TWO world wars, that their economies needed to be efficient, but also give workers more of the pie, so they wouldn't fall for the Communist dream.

Much of what also the US did to US workers and GI returning from war... They where given a pice of the pie, so they could build a life for themselves.


But, when the fall of USSR seemed inevitable, the Corporations went FULL Capitalist to maximize returns... which ment gradually cutting worker comps, paying political parties off to easily outsource, dismantle middle America, paying less and less taxes, shifting tax burden to citizens, convincing half the country that Corporations are some deity that should be protected, and any workers trying to work together and support each other is evil and a burden (to their bottom line)..

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Originally Posted by badger
Refresh my memory here, if you will. How many wars was the US involved in during the Trump administration? How many potential conflicts were avoided during the same period? How many historic peace accords were created and signed by Trump.

How many foreign policy disasters were caused by Byedan? Do you Libs support what he has done to the US since he was installed? How about the Afghanistan withdrawal? The oil industry? The economy in general and our standing in the world now?


Read some facts and you would be AMAZED...


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Originally Posted by Northman
Funny listening to MAGAs on this website who would cuss out people, who where against the war in Iraq or Afghan...

HOW DARE YOU BESMIRCH OUR GREAT NATION AND ITS WARRIORS... not to forgot OUR FLAG... and FREEEEDUMB.

Now they are they biggest doves in the world and would of course reduce the largest military force in the world to a miniumum, and keep them all inside US borders.


And totally agree that the US should cut its defense spending from nearly $700 Billion a year to $100 Billion a year...
And all MAGA Republicans would sing Kumbaya , while China took over Asia, Russia Eastern Europe, and Iran Middle East.


Sounds like MAGAs bought the Russian disinformation warfare package, hook, line and sinker, to become isolationist, so every other dictatorship could step up to the plate.
Go back to democrat underground, retard


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Originally Posted by ribka
a clueless cowardly draft dodging poosey ( like Bidumb) that never served talking about the military. lmao


I was in the Navy... so I get your point sort of...


Where did you serve?



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Originally Posted by badger
Originally Posted by Northman
Funny listening to MAGAs on this website who would cuss out people, who where against the war in Iraq or Afghan...

HOW DARE YOU BESMIRCH OUR GREAT NATION AND ITS WARRIORS... not to forgot OUR FLAG... and FREEEEDUMB.

Now they are they biggest doves in the world and would of course reduce the largest military force in the world to a miniumum, and keep them all inside US borders.


And totally agree that the US should cut its defense spending from nearly $700 Billion a year to $100 Billion a year...
And all MAGA Republicans would sing Kumbaya , while China took over Asia, Russia Eastern Europe, and Iran Middle East.


Sounds like MAGAs bought the Russian disinformation warfare package, hook, line and sinker, to become isolationist, so every other dictatorship could step up to the plate.


Yo, Walt!

Refresh my memory here, if you will. How many wars was the US involved in during the Trump administration? How many potential conflicts were avoided during the same period? How many historic peace accords were created and signed by Trump.

How many foreign policy disasters were caused by Byedan? Do you Libs support what he has done to the US since he was installed? How about the Afghanistan withdrawal? The oil industry? The economy in general and our standing in the world now?

Well said Badger!! Most of us view wars in a different light after Trump showed us that we can at least have positive conversations with our "enemies". Enemies made from propaganda and or actions = $.

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Originally Posted by Northman
Originally Posted by badger
Refresh my memory here, if you will. How many wars was the US involved in during the Trump administration? How many potential conflicts were avoided during the same period? How many historic peace accords were created and signed by Trump.

How many foreign policy disasters were caused by Byedan? Do you Libs support what he has done to the US since he was installed? How about the Afghanistan withdrawal? The oil industry? The economy in general and our standing in the world now?


Read some facts and you would be AMAZED...

I don't get my "facts" from DU or The Daily Kos.


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Originally Posted by badger
Yo, Walt!

Refresh my memory here, if you will. How many wars was the US involved in during the Trump administration? How many potential conflicts were avoided during the same period? How many historic peace accords were created and signed by Trump.

How many foreign policy disasters were caused by Byedan? Do you Libs support what he has done to the US since he was installed? How about the Afghanistan withdrawal? The oil industry? The economy in general and our standing in the world now?

Well here is Trump in his own words on Ukraine. Don't have to guess of speculate.



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Originally Posted by Northman
Originally Posted by Hastings
The USA could be filthy rich and safe, trading equally with all nations and only using our navy to protect our trading ships. What goes on across the ocean needs not to involve us. This Ukraine vs NATO crap is just another quagmire for us.


I would rather say, if Private corporations whernt allowed to buy political favors, to outsource, union bust, cut cut cut worker benefits, the US workers would be much better off.


Europe, beeing so close to Russia, knew, after TWO world wars, that their economies needed to be efficient, but also give workers more of the pie, so they wouldn't fall for the Communist dream.

Much of what also the US did to US workers and GI returning from war... They where given a pice of the pie, so they could build a life for themselves.


But, when the fall of USSR seemed inevitable, the Corporations went FULL Capitalist to maximize returns... which ment gradually cutting worker comps, paying political parties off to easily outsource, dismantle middle America, paying less and less taxes, shifting tax burden to citizens, convincing half the country that Corporations are some deity that should be protected, and any workers trying to work together and support each other is evil and a burden (to their bottom line)...
I agree with a lot of this. Union busting is a source of a lot of our problems, but foreign adventures are what broke us.

If we wanted to help American workers we would outlaw imports of manufactured goods from slave labor countries. And quit incentivizing idleness.


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Yo, Walt!

Refresh my memory here, if you will. How many wars was the US involved in during the Trump administration? How many potential conflicts were avoided during the same period? How many historic peace accords were created and signed by Trump.

How many foreign policy disasters were caused by Byedan? Do you Libs support what he has done to the US since he was installed? How about the Afghanistan withdrawal? The oil industry? The economy in general and our standing in the world now?

Well here is Trump in his own words on Ukraine. Don't have to guess of speculate.


Your point? He was being asked what would he do to fix the mess that Biden allowed to happen. Odd how Putin waited until after Biden’s installation before making his move, don’t you think?


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Yo, Walt!

Refresh my memory here, if you will. How many wars was the US involved in during the Trump administration? How many potential conflicts were avoided during the same period? How many historic peace accords were created and signed by Trump.

How many foreign policy disasters were caused by Byedan? Do you Libs support what he has done to the US since he was installed? How about the Afghanistan withdrawal? The oil industry? The economy in general and our standing in the world now?

Well here is Trump in his own words on Ukraine. Don't have to guess of speculate.


Your point? He was being asked what would he do to fix the mess that Biden allowed to happen. Odd how Putin waited until after Biden’s installation before making his move, don’t you think?

Thinking got nothing to do with it. LMAO

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Next you'll be telling folks that Pres. Putin himself is a 'Russian asset'.....


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Russia is now supplying Iran with unprecedented military assistance in exchange for Iranian drones.

NBC, WSJ, Barrons

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Iran is sending more technical help to Russia to assist with drone issues.

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Originally Posted by Northman
Originally Posted by ribka
a clueless cowardly draft dodging poosey ( like Bidumb) that never served talking about the military. lmao


I was in the Navy... so I get your point sort of...


Where did you serve?



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Sure ya did Walt. Lmao

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Iran is sending more technical help to Russia to assist with drone issues.

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ISW Update

Originally Posted by ISW Wizards
Key Takeaways

Russian President Vladimir Putin continues to discuss negotiations with Ukraine as a means of separating Ukraine from its Western supporters by portraying Kyiv as unwilling to compromise or even to talk seriously.

Putin’s positioning in the Russian information space continues to oscillate between supporting the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) and backing the nationalist and pro-war milblogger community.

An independent open-source investigation by the BBC’s Russia service and independent Russia outlet Mediazona found that members of Russian national republics deploy to Ukraine at disproportionately higher rates than ethnically Russian oblasts, but that ethnic Russians are dying at a rate proportional to their representation in the Russian Federation population, contrary to previous ISW assessments.

Russian officials strengthened existing legislation to stifle domestic dissent.

Senior US officials stated that Russia is providing an unprecedented level of military and technical support to Iran in exchange for Iranian-made weapons systems.

Russian forces established defensive lines near Svatove, and Russian and Ukrainian forces conducted ground attacks near Kreminna.

Russian forces continued ground attacks near Bakhmut and Avdiivka.

Russian forces may have established positions on an island west of Kherson City in the Dnipro River.

Ukrainian forces’ interdiction campaign against Russian military assets and logistics hubs in southern Ukraine has likely degraded Russian forces, their logistics lines, and broader Russian morale.

Putin doubled down on claims that Russia will not conduct a second wave of mobilization amidst persistent concerns within Russian society.
Russian occupation authorities continued to strengthen physical, legal, and social control over occupied territories.


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