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Hence the push for Basic Marksmanship skills.

Project Appleseed teaches them as well.


They should be frequented and supported more by the community.




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The really fuqed up group are the ones that complain about those who took the trouble to raise them.

There’s an app for that

Sharpsman,
A gimmick would be using rebated boat tail, improved bc bullet to cheat the wind instead of learning to dope wind properly like a real rifleman. Them Delta bullets were the worst tourist trap ever and set back wind reading skills by decades.

Don't even get me started on VLD's!!!

Very cool... my neighbor in Leslie GA had an AgCat... crazy cool stuff he could do with that machine... 20k hours IIRC.

You should do a thread...

The HP on those old rotaries was INSANE!

Use EVERY TOOL at your disposal. Every situation is different. Shooting from a rest is obviously advantageous but not always available OR practical. That's when your skill level and your target size, distance come into play. One should always go for the steadier position, but again it's not always practical or available:

60 yards off hand:

330 off shooting sticks:

Not a millennial but I shoot fine in the field, in field positions at reasonable ranges to do so.

You shoot off hand at 350 and I'll shoot off my tripod. I'll smoke you every time.

. Maybe. You evidently have no clue about Rick. Real deal when it comes to shooting and hunting. But yeah, I'd suspect at 350 your shot is going to be there. I suspect his offhand shot will be a kill though too.

He has won more matches than a lot of folks I know. No rests involved and at a bit of distance some were won.
Thats assuming you don't call a sling a rest.

Curmudgeon. Yep. Most of us older ones just call it the way we see it and dont' put up with any BS anymore. Never thought I"d get there, evidently I"m ahead of the curve though. Always tried to be out front so I guess that good.

As a guide I'll say that most folks these days think a sling is to carry a rifle. Dont' use it. Are amazed when shown how. Have no clue about field expedient rests. I about lost it this spring when I saw a client had to be shown how to use a backpack to rest over and then had to have a second one added because he couldn't figure out to make the angle work... and time was running out quickly there.

I'm not saying its peoples fault. They have never been taught by parents or mentors. Why that is I have no clue. I suspect part is getting away from the so called gun culture.

I do my level best to teach everyone that is willing to listen, how to be the most stable they can be and to above all know when not to yank that trigger so to speak.

BTW at 350 Rick won't shoot it offhand. You'll be amazed how quickly he snaps into a sling and then at that point if it fits in your scheme of rules the smoke won't happen. And the target will be hit quickly and repeated times quickly.

What a crock of shìt.


Everyone about 40 to 25 is a millennial.

Same proportion of Boomers and Xers as millennials still have the first box of ammo they ever bought.

It wouldn't surprise me if Sharpsman is P100 and more

Not going to read the whole thread but a lot of people out there today never squirrel or rabbit hunted. They never chased birds around the yard with a BB gun. The only shooting they ever did before getting up in an enclosed deer stand was at the range with a rest or a bipod. That doesn’t lead to good shooting in the old fashioned way of meaning.

A person should be able to shoot a deer at hundred yards or less quicker than someone can say, “Hey, shoot that deer out there.” It really should be practically instantaneous.

I get the feeling that lots of guys who practice shooting does at 800 yards with a 6.5 Creedmoor would starve to death if you put them in a thicket with a 30-30.

Good point

I find it funny you don't read yet feel free to opine and there is quite a bit of overlap among skilled marksmen.

Not a doe but you get the point.



Not a thicket and not a 30-30 but you get the point.

Well, you’re a lying sack of [bleep] who should probably not opine on any subject. But, sure some people can do both. But a lot (and notice in English “a lot” means a significant number but by no means all) can’t. Mostly because they just never have.

Well at least you read the important post.

The people of Wisconsin must be working double shifts to produce enough cheese for this amount of whine. If you want to use a bi-pod/tri-pod use it, if you don't, don't. But don't whine like a little girl if some people DON'T make things harder than they need to be all the time.

If I'm hunting 'yotes at night you can be pretty certain a tri-pod will be involved. Or am I supposed to put it and the electronic equipment away and use a mouth call and head lamp cause that's how dad did it?

I only read the first page and gave up. I've shot free-hand, leaning against a tree, over my pack prone, over a rock, over a log, from my elbows, from my knees, with a monopod and bipod. My general thought is, to each their own. To hear some people, I'm wondering why in the world they would choose to use a high powered rifle with a scope when there are so many frickin' free rocks and sticks.

I would say the general comment here is the more you use a crutch, the less overall proficient you will be. Fairly simple actually.

In other words we call it cross training. Use what you want, but what I see agrees, most these days are so used to some fancier rest they can't do it without it.

That is a sad situation.

When I was young I couldn't do without it. Took a few years of learning on my own and finally finding some help. God knows our eyes were opened when we were invited into high-power service rifle shooting.

Cross train. IT helps. Trust me. I"ve had game walk away from folks because all they knew was set up the rest for me... close game..... In the end its not my problem but it bothers me.

its why I try to have my clients continually dry fire on game too. But OMG we can't dry fire.. It will break our 10,000 dollar rifle. Nope. It. Won't.

Bi/tri/mono - pods are not necessary when you can rely on the reverse kneel