Not going to read the whole thread but a lot of people out there today never squirrel or rabbit hunted. They never chased birds around the yard with a BB gun. The only shooting they ever did before getting up in an enclosed deer stand was at the range with a rest or a bipod. That doesn’t lead to good shooting in the old fashioned way of meaning.
A person should be able to shoot a deer at hundred yards or less quicker than someone can say, “Hey, shoot that deer out there.” It really should be practically instantaneous.
I get the feeling that lots of guys who practice shooting does at 800 yards with a 6.5 Creedmoor would starve to death if you put them in a thicket with a 30-30.
