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The wife tells me we are going full carnivore.

Meat, fish, eggs, diary, and condiments.

Condiments means I may get a few carbs from Tabasco Chipotle sauce.

We have not started yet. Yesterday I ate blackberries, sour kraut, kimchi, and pickle....kiss those good bye.

How many pages is the diary?

Bread is pretty much my undoing for acid reflux, I eat it but not a half loaf of french bread anymore, try to keep it from 2 to 4 slices a day.

Kent

Carb content of vegetables are not counted on Primal Blueprint, and the results at least in my case are very good, with IF, both OMD or sustained fasting are great.

A lifestyle for four years and starting my fifth after 50 years of fighting obesity.



I dropped in to see nothing has changed, everyone is committed to their own beliefs and will never change, never open their mind, exactly like the liberal fk's destroying the country.

Conservatism is being as close to the line of reality as possible, liberalism is drifting away from the line.

Reality is if you only wish to focus on the eating part of weight gain or loss... whatever you eat that makes you fat, don't eat it and you will lose weight... it doesn't matter when you don't eat it... just don't.

Kent

So what...why do you expect everyone to do as you do?

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Yep, no difference;)

Pretty much captures the essence of the thing...from my experience at least.

All this is terrific for those watching weight, but for those that toil physically it doesn't keep them going.

Are you referring to have an open mind?

I did carnivore for a month when I first started trying to lose weight. I didn't crap the last two weeks and started eating lots of greens and salads with my meat.

And you did it Wrong.


... and then came to the brilliant predetermined conclusion that an Eight million year old human evolutionary condition... doesn't work.

Stupid is as stupid does.

What doesn't work - is what's between your ears.




GR

Absolutely! My wife read an article about Tom Brady (we both hate him) but he said nightshades caused him inflammation and pain so my wife wondered if that was her problem. She felt like she was getting older faster and hurting from arthritis and since she consumed tomatoes and peppers daily along with potatoes and eggplant is her favorite she cut it out and almost overnight felt immensely better. She now cheats very rarely if the “juice is worth the squeeze” but she pays for it later. I’ve given her 600+mg (the minimum anti inflammatory dose) ahead of time if she’s going to cheat which can help but she still feels it in her joints.

It doesn’t matter what I eat my back and shoulders always hurt so I eat what I want every 24 hours. 😀

What seems to be lost in the discussion about fasting, in this thread and elsewhere and narrowing it down to continuous fasting is the person is not starving. Without dietary carbs, and after the depletion of gylcogen the body uses the most readily available fuel sources and that is fat. And in my case, my body is "feasting" on fat. No issue with energy, no hunger pain and any desire to eat is simply in my head. This is not BS, it's well documented, proven to be successful and works well. In the case of IF, I believe the benefit is reduced insulin production over reduced calorie intake and for those pre-diabetic or diabetic worth it for better health. I believe Fung said any food source will cause insulin production so no matter how someone chooses to eat, there is still a benefit to health, weightloss and longevity by IF.

That "in my head" comment is spot on...it is like the taste buds are bored and want stimulation. No physical hunger, just boredom.

Changing your eating window from 6am/6pm to 7am/5pm or 10am/6pm or 12am/6am... and eating the exact same food that made you fat, won't cure your diabetes... that's the IF/IM part of the discussion.

Increasing activity and reducing/eliminating foods that cause your diabetes is how you can control it.

Using a restricted eating window as a platform to reduce food intake along with activity and diet is a phycological benefit, but by itself isn't effective... either of the other two do have benefit by itself.

Why does that matter? because someone watching the video will think they can eat unrestricted but in an 8 hour window and cure diabetes, lose a hundred pounds... just don't eat and hour after getting up and 3 hours before bed minimum... and that's not true.

You will drop 10lbs of water weight the first couple weeks and hit the wall.

Kent

I did not get that impression if you are referencing Fung's two compartment video.

That was certainly the case with Atkin's Diet, unlimited protein and fat until you were full.

Video in the OP, what this thread started as.

Does Fung disagree with the first video?

Kent

Insulin - is triggered by the presence of excess sugar in the blood - to transport it into either muscle, Liver, or fat cells.

Even if the Liver is the one making it.

Dietary Fasting - does not exist in a high blood-sugar environment.

... Starvation does.

Dr. Fung avoided Ketosis as the base of Dietary Fasting, while assuming its presence.




GR

Are you arguing a point because your posts don't make much sense....not trying to be a dk' just don't get it.

Depends on what you don't understand, doesn't it.

So what do you know?






GR