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Well just got my gun back. Repair says same as last trip "Polished chamber and passed range test". I told them that is not what I want to hear the second time! I have not fired it yet but I fail to see how ding the same thing they did last time will be any different! I will forever be staying away from S+W firearms! It is a major PITA to ship gun back and another to get it home when you work 40 plus a week and have to be home to sign.
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Well just got my gun back. Repair says same as last trip "Polished chamber and passed range test". I told them that is not what I want to hear the second time! I have not fired it yet but I fail to see how ding the same thing they did last time will be any different! I will forever be staying away from S+W firearms! It is a major PITA to ship gun back and another to get it home when you work 40 plus a week and have to be home to sign.
HeavyBarrel Have you shot it yet? Don't you think you should shoot it before posting here? Did you send your magazines with pistol?
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I would at least shoot the thing again to see if maybe it works now before I swore off S&W firearms.
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Mine wouldn't run anything with factory springs. It is running target ammo with the 24lb recoil and Springer Xtra power mag springs but is still fumbling with the more powerful loads. Always around the 12-14th rounds in 15 round mags.
HeavyBarrel Can you sell it with mag blocks installed to someone where there is 10 round magazine limit?
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A firearm you can't trust isn't worth 2 cents.
Move on.
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I will shoot it and post the results. Maybe jumping to conclusion but I already did exactly what they said they did and they did and said exactly the same thing first time I sent it.
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It will take a lot of firing and 100% function before I could ever trust this gun again! This gun should never have left the factory the first time and definitely shouldn't have left in the condition from the warranty department.
Unsure if yall have read all the issues and things I have tried, money I have sent, and to get a repair form back from S+W warranty dept saying they polished the chamber and passed their range text does not leave me feeling like they have addressed anything.
I will have time to fire it Friday and will post results.
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Not only were all 3 mags sent with pistol, I had previously tried the Springer plus power mag springs that did not help.
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There is no way to eliminate ocassional "lemons" in large scale production process. They probably only testfire few guns out of large batch. Their warranty work range test is probably couple of rounds. Your only mistake was spending hundreds to make this clunker work. Time to cut losses.
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Man I hope it works this time! The gun is a bit more svelte that the G29.
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Sorry guys I traded it off. Was not going to spend the xtra dollars on ammo to get to where I could trust gun with my life. Traded it to local gun store with full disclosure. I am sure with their buying power that if there is an issue they can get it resolved.
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Sorry guys I traded it off. Was not going to spend the xtra dollars on ammo to get to where I could trust gun with my life. Traded it to local gun store with full disclosure. I am sure with their buying power that if there is an issue they can get it resolved.
HeavyBarrel Congratulations, I am sorry you spent so much time and money on this clunker.
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Yes I know. I traded it for a Glock 22.
If anyone would like to try the Springer brand mag springs and the 24lb recoil spring I would gladly send them their way for 50 bucks total. Only been installed for about 30 minutes.
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Congratulations. That is much better choice practice ammo is about $2> 9x19. Best defensive ammo Winchester Ranger 180 bonded JHP can be found for about $30/50. You can shoot 9x19 out of G22 by simply dropping in aftermarket barrel.
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I already had another Gen2 Glock 22 that lives in my truck. Also a G27 so this new gun will live beside my bed or on top of fridge. I like the 40's and I like the fact that in a pinch my G22 mags work in my 27.
I really liked the ergo's of the Smith but damn it was a mess and I really lost faith in it as a gun that I could defend my family with!
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Sorry guys I traded it off. Was not going to spend the xtra dollars on ammo to get to where I could trust gun with my life. Traded it to local gun store with full disclosure. I am sure with their buying power that if there is an issue they can get it resolved.
HeavyBarrel Congratulations, I am sorry you spent so much time and money on this clunker.
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I'm guessing from your description of the failure that had you trimmed the mag lip back a bit to get an earlier full release of the round that it would have worked.
Common fix on some 1911 mags.
Guess we'll never know now.
I have no use for 10mm's...............to many problems reported with different guns. If I can't get it done with a 45 or a 40 S&W, it just won't get done & I'll move up to 44 or 41 mag.
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Sorry it didn't work out.
I feel your pain. I've had to get rid of few problem firearms too in the past.
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Thank you for sharing your experience. I handled that pistol and was impressed with the ergonomics of the smith for my tastes anyway, so thank you for sharing.
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I passed on a performance center a few weeks ago and went with the Springfield XDM OSP. I’ve put around 200 rounds through it without a problem.
I went in with plans to buy the 2.0 but ended up not liking the harsh course stippling on the grip. The grip frame was “imbalanced?” for my grip being too long for the width.
I wear M/L to L gloves but felt that the grip depth was for a larger hand. Simply personal preference issues but those things kept me from going S&W.
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