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I think one of the biggest missed opportunities by the scope companies is to offer a true Custom Service Center where you could have a scope built 'ala carte....choose the options that you want from an existing platform. Premier Reticle came the closest to that model.
Good shootin' -Al Those on the outside very often think a buisness should lose money to satisfy a very small subset of customers. Leupold did run a custom shop for many years but it was always a net loss. Every scope Leupold can produce is sold before it's made and the same is true for most other actual manufacturers. It's not viable to cater to a niche very small customer base that wants one off custom products at production prices.
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I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.
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Sorry ladies,typical slow day here,but at least it was dry. Hint. Keep your Professional Victim Hurt Feelers Reports coming,as that High Pitched Nasal Whine sure is fhuqking soothing! Hint. I might start carving some Mail open this afternoon. Pardon the Splendors of wares that exist,if only in advance. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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I think one of the biggest missed opportunities by the scope companies is to offer a true Custom Service Center where you could have a scope built 'ala carte....choose the options that you want from an existing platform. Premier Reticle came the closest to that model.
Good shootin' -Al Those on the outside very often think a buisness should lose money to satisfy a very small subset of customers. Leupold did run a custom shop for many years but it was always a net loss. Every scope Leupold can produce is sold before it's made and the same is true for most other actual manufacturers. It's not viable to cater to a niche very small customer base that wants one off custom products at production prices.
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I think one of the biggest missed opportunities by the scope companies is to offer a true Custom Service Center where you could have a scope built 'ala carte....choose the options that you want from an existing platform. Premier Reticle came the closest to that model.
Good shootin' -Al Those on the outside very often think a buisness should lose money to satisfy a very small subset of customers. Leupold did run a custom shop for many years but it was always a net loss. Every scope Leupold can produce is sold before it's made and the same is true for most other actual manufacturers. It's not viable to cater to a niche very small customer base that wants one off custom products at production prices. I agree 100%, that is why I pick and choose from what is available.
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I think one of the biggest missed opportunities by the scope companies is to offer a true Custom Service Center where you could have a scope built 'ala carte....choose the options that you want from an existing platform. Premier Reticle came the closest to that model.
Good shootin' -Al Those on the outside very often think a buisness should lose money to satisfy a very small subset of customers. Leupold did run a custom shop for many years but it was always a net loss. Every scope Leupold can produce is sold before it's made and the same is true for most other actual manufacturers. It's not viable to cater to a niche very small customer base that wants one off custom products at production prices. I agree 100%, that is why I pick and choose from what is available. Seems an opportunity for a entrepreneur, a boutique shop, how hard can making scopes be?
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Seems like we begged this before and one one of our sponsors had a big time manufacturer make some 6x42s. Then all you [bleep] talkers failed to buy them and Doug sat on them way too long. Why don’t you look for one of those 6x42 S&B used. The S&B "offered" was/is a Goat Fhuqk. Schit reticle,no parallax adjustment,schit erector travel and fhuqking STUPID "controls". Hint. A simplistic 6x MQ offered superior mechanical control and by fhuqking land slides. Hint. You Crying CLUELESS Kchunts are a Hoot! Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Seems an opportunity for a entrepreneur, a boutique shop, how hard can making scopes be? A good friend was one of the principles of a start up scope company. The endeavor is pretty daunting, to say the least. The logical thing would be a shop where the company is already servicing an existing product line...both assembly and service. Leupold's now defunct Custom Shop did basic turret and reticle work and generally did a good job with that. What I'm describing would be a true custom scope where the buyer could select specific features...reticle, w/e adjustment amounts, tracking system options, etc. A true premium product at a premium price. It worked for Premier Reticle before an unscrupulous business partner sank them. Good shootin' -Al
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Years back the 24 Hour Campfire did a special group purchase that Doug arranged with Schmidt & Bender for a S&B PMII fixed 6x42 rifle scope. Worst mistake ever not buying one of those. It was the most substantive and value based group buy I have ever seen. For those who say there is no market for a fixed power scope, that group buy proves you wrong.
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The S&B "offered" was/is a Goat Fhuqk. Schit reticle,no parallax adjustment,schit erector travel and fhuqking STUPID "controls". Hint.
A simplistic 6x MQ offered superior mechanical control and by fhuqking land slides. Hint.
You Crying CLUELESS Kchunts are a Hoot! Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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The S&B "offered" was/is a Goat Fhuqk. Schit reticle,no parallax adjustment,schit erector travel and fhuqking STUPID "controls". Hint.
A simplistic 6x MQ offered superior mechanical control and by fhuqking land slides. Hint.
You Crying CLUELESS Kchunts are a Hoot! Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!............ Your responses are always amusing, and while your experience in these matters is generally respected, there is no way I would choose an MQ over an S&B. And while we fully understand your inability to respect another human being's choice, carry on compensating for personal shortfalls versus important matters. On a more important matter, please give us the review on the 8 x 56 S&B you recently bought and the comparison in usable low-light additional time between the MQ and the S&B.
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Sweetheart,
You are simply riding the Pine and have never stepped foot on the Floor. Hint.
The ONLY things you "shoot" are your mouth and Imagination,on a Minimum Wage. Hint.
Keep Pretending aloud,you Drooling CLUELESS Fhuqk. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Sweetheart,
You are simply riding the Pine and have never stepped foot on the Floor. Hint.
The ONLY things you "shoot" are your mouth and Imagination,on a Minimum Wage. Hint.
Keep Pretending aloud,you Drooling CLUELESS Fhuqk. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!............ So how was the 8 x 56 Schmidt & Bender you just bought?
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Would be nice if someone would do a special run of 4x and 6x scopes for us old fudds.
Trijicon Accupoint 6x42 might be nice Great idea but I would prefer 2 3/4x and 4x. Getting a 4x and 6x would be fine with me but I suspect I'd go 2-7x rather than fixed 6x. Been using a couple 2-7x scopes several years now and have grown very fond of them. But my favorite scope is still the old Redfield 4 plex cch on my 30-06. Bought that scope new about 1971 and have never had a problem with it and for big game enough power for farther than I normally shoot!
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Big Schtick,
Tell us about the pecan grove where you and Max used to shoot the trout, when your love was young.
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The Rifle is the Weapon of Democracy
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Maybe it’s time to put my S&B 6x42 for sale on the fire.
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I patiently await my first Meopta,that tracks,holds zero and repeats. Hint…….. I never own a Meopta but read some great reviews on how well it tracks, can you tell us which scope tracks, holds zero and repeats the best in your estimation without smart a** reply.
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Sweetheart,
You are simply riding the Pine and have never stepped foot on the Floor. Hint.
The ONLY things you "shoot" are your mouth and Imagination,on a Minimum Wage. Hint.
Keep Pretending aloud,you Drooling CLUELESS Fhuqk. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!............ So how was the 8 x 56 Schmidt & Bender you just bought? Big Stick- I take it since the cat has your tongue on answering this simple question, the S&B was so good it conflicts with your CCP marketing efforts, and you need to keep the goodness to yourself.
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How many times a day,do you gals think about me? Hint.
I do not have a S&B 8x56 and never have,but your vicarious "living" is fhuqking HILARIOUS! Hint.................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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