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Dumping 5 juvenile wolves onto the landscape after the stress of capture and a long truck ride has a very low chance of success. I suspect the collars are the latest and greatest money can buy. Odds are good those collars will be pinging dead before spring. I wonder what happens if the Colo P&W submitted plan fails to establish breeding packs?
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I screwed the pooch on a white wolf this year while packing out a moose. Absolute rookie mistake. Took my pack off and walked 20 or so yards to sit down, rest and glass a basin. Left my rifle strapped to the pack. Out of nowhere, 75 yards away there he is.....just standing there. Oh well. By the shape and bulk of the snout I suspect it was a mature male. I've killed a few wolves but never a white one.
On another note one wolf I trapped had been absolutely ripped apart by his packmates. I had nothing but a paw and leg bone left. Brotherly love and all that...
These thoughts have nothing to do with the OP, but neither does well over half of the rest of these posts. Whatever the outcome, I wish Colorado hunters the best concerning this.
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And another possible mind blower. I have a photograph somewhere that I took 6 years ago of a fresh wolf track in SW Colorado. And yes I know what a wolf track looks like. So maybe they’ve already had a few for a while now.
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And another possible mind blower. I have a photograph somewhere that I took 6 years ago of a fresh wolf track in SW Colorado. And yes I know what a wolf track looks like. So maybe they’ve already had a few for a while now. It's not uncommon for some whacked leftist to release wolves and wolf hybrids. Such attempts never produce breeding packs. Not saying that is what made the track you saw but it's happened a whole bunch of times. Once breeding pack are established it's very hard to stop. Lone wolves on the prowl are very vulnerable to a host of factors.
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And another possible mind blower. I have a photograph somewhere that I took 6 years ago of a fresh wolf track in SW Colorado. And yes I know what a wolf track looks like. So maybe they’ve already had a few for a while now. It's not uncommon for some whacked leftist to release wolves and wolf hybrids. Such attempts never produce breeding packs. Not saying that is what made the track you saw but it's happened a whole bunch of times. Once breeding pack are established it's very hard to stop. Lone wolves on the prowl are very vulnerable to a host of factors. That’s as good an explanation as any. I just know I was shocked when I ran across a set of fresh wolf tracks.
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The problem is when you find fresh tracks of about a 1/2 dozen or more wolves. Now you have a pack.
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The problem is when you find fresh tracks of about a 1/2 dozen or more wolves. Now you have a pack. I don't have any advise for the guys in Colorado but in the Wyoming Predator Zone 1/2 dozen wolves trying to establish a pack are going to get the special attention. Colorado hard dumping juvey wolves 5 at a time is not the best plan if one wants to actually establish breeding packs. It might work but it's uphill odds. We all believe the Lefties are stupid. Might be right.
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The problem is when you find fresh tracks of about a 1/2 dozen or more wolves. Now you have a pack. I don't have any advise for the guys in Colorado but in the Wyoming Predator Zone 1/2 dozen wolves trying to establish a pack are going to get the special attention. Colorado hard dumping juvey wolves 5 at a time is not the best plan if one wants to actually establish breeding packs. It might work but it's uphill odds. We all believe the Lefties are stupid. Might be right. Let's hope you are right
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If keeping them in a pen was so successful why did 2 head straight for Montana, dont suppose the others hung around because of the 20,000 elk to feed on LOL. 12 stayed put as an established pack. It was extremely susccessful at establishing a pack with a territory inside Yellowstone. 2 dispersed from the pack as wolves have always done. That's how they expand into new areas. You seem surly. Not feeling so well today? Hung over Burns? Long weekend in the whiskey bottle, seem a little dillusional. I have been consistently right and you can hardly type a coherent post. Are you smelling burnt toast? Anyhow, I don't give this step in the introduction much chance of producing an established packand I would never encourge anyone to do anything illegal. As a side note, your cell phone (if you are carrying one) pings the closest towers and law enforcement can get records of the pings for towers in the general location of an incident. How can it ping towers when there is no cell service?
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Shoot on sight. Shoot to kill.
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If keeping them in a pen was so successful why did 2 head straight for Montana, dont suppose the others hung around because of the 20,000 elk to feed on LOL. 12 stayed put as an established pack. It was extremely susccessful at establishing a pack with a territory inside Yellowstone. 2 dispersed from the pack as wolves have always done. That's how they expand into new areas. You seem surly. Not feeling so well today? Hung over Burns? Long weekend in the whiskey bottle, seem a little dillusional. I have been consistently right and you can hardly type a coherent post. Are you smelling burnt toast? Anyhow, I don't give this step in the introduction much chance of producing an established packand I would never encourge anyone to do anything illegal. As a side note, your cell phone (if you are carrying one) pings the closest towers and law enforcement can get records of the pings for towers in the general location of an incident. How can it ping towers when there is no cell service? Satellite thats how 911 works
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I won't be calling 911 if'n I pop a woof.......
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I won't be calling 911 if'n I pop a woof....... I suspect there will be a new crop of hybrid coyotes needing to be thinned.
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Ok but why can't they establish wolf packs in wild horse range? If we can't shoot feral horses for food why can't the wolves predate on them rather than elk. We might get a to-fer here.
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I won't be calling 911 if'n I pop a woof....... Smart thing is leave anything electronic at home. I wish you Colorado guys all the luck in the world your gonna need it im burning my points next year its not gonna get any better
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Odd. Ifeel sorry for the wolves too. Displaced in winter, assume altitude sickness same as we get, no pack.
Game guys did pick a locale where the voters wanted wolves. But not Boulder.
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Odd. Ifeel sorry for the wolves too. Displaced in winter, assume altitude sickness same as we get, no pack.
Game guys did pick a locale where the voters wanted wolves. But not Boulder. No sir, Grand County did not vote for them. Boulder County: 68 percent approval Denver County: 66 percent approval San Miguel County: 64 percent approval Pitkin County: 62 percent approval San Juan County: 56 percent approval Broomfield County: 55 percent approval Summit County: 54 percent approval La Plata County: 53 percent approval Arapahoe County: 53 percent approval Larimer County: 52 percent approval Adams County: 52 percent approval Jefferson County: 51 percent approval El Paso County: 51 percent approval LHS
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4 wolves released about 20 minutes SW of Kremmling near Radium SWA. Road the forms borders of 15 and 361 ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/0E7dVXL.jpg)
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