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Originally Posted by cra1948
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If I wanted to carry a long gun for bear protection, I would much prefer this to any semi-auto sporting rifle.


Like this or the Ruger SFAR any thoughts?


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Originally Posted by 41rem
Anything out there? Looking for a box feed Remington or Browning auto with a 10 round magazine.

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Well if a guy had him a stash of GI ammo of all "colors" don't know how you could do better than a M1 Garand that is in nice shape . Mb


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FN 49?

The Belgians would make a contract for production of the SAFN 1949 rifle on August 24, 1950 for 6,000 rifles in caliber .30-06 Springfield. - from Wikipedia

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Originally Posted by CanadianLefty
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Anything out there? Looking for a box feed Remington or Browning auto with a 10 round magazine.

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This one would be cool to have LOL 30-06 Automatic Colt

WOW that looks like fun, unless you are standing at the wrong end of the barrel.

After dropping so many animals in their tracks with my .30-06, I have often wondered how anyone would survive even 1 round of an 06 in WWI or II.


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I think the two easiest choices are a Browning Bar DBM or the Ruger SFAR.

Both are in 308 which is interchangable in terms of performance with a 30-06.

If you want the more traditional rifle go with the BAR. If you want all the options that come with an AR, go with the Ruger.

If you live or hunt in a place with no ARs,the Browning chooses itself.

I would probably shoot Nosler Partitions which expand rapidly and penetrate very well

I have only killed one bear, a black bear in Ontario. But the 308 Caliber Nosler Partition instantly put the bear down.

Another great choice in 308 ammo would be the 165 Grain Trophy Bonded Tip by Federal. It worked great on African plains game for me.

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HK 940- Heavy & expensive but accurate and reliable. 10 rnd mags from HK.
Weight is comparable to the Garand. Probably a bit lighter.

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The only semi-auto rifles I’d trust in life or death situations are the M1 and the M14. If the M1A is built as good as the M14’s were, then the M1A too. I’ve not had much experience with the M1A though.

The AR platform works great for PD shooting and target shooting. As far as depending my life on a rifle, they are bottom of the heap for me, perhaps equal to trap door Springfields with copper cases and black powder loads, as used by General Custer’s men.

The Browning BAR is a great hunting rifle.

The 742/7400 isn’t nearly as bad as some say. Most of the nay sayers seem to work on the Remington semi-autos without knowing what loads have been shot in them, I think. The Browning is a better rifle than the Remingtons, IMO.

I have very little experience with German or other military’s rifles. Good or bad, IDK.

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Originally Posted by Bugger
The only semi-auto rifles I’d trust in life or death situations are the M1 and the M14. If the M1A is built as good as the M14’s were, then the M1A too.

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Other than the weight difference, we weren't too thrilled when they took away our M14s and gave us M16s. Full auto function of the 16s was a nice plus.


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Originally Posted by Bugger
The only semi-auto rifles I’d trust in life or death situations are the M1 and the M14. If the M1A is built as good as the M14’s were, then the M1A too. I’ve not had much experience with the M1A though.

The AR platform works great for PD shooting and target shooting. As far as depending my life on a rifle, they are bottom of the heap for me, perhaps equal to trap door Springfields with copper cases and black powder loads, as used by General Custer’s men.

The Browning BAR is a great hunting rifle.

The 742/7400 isn’t nearly as bad as some say. Most of the nay sayers seem to work on the Remington semi-autos without knowing what loads have been shot in them, I think. The Browning is a better rifle than the Remingtons, IMO.

I have very little experience with German or other military’s rifles. Good or bad, IDK.
I you need to spend some time with an Armalite AR-10 t their heavy but good..mb


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Originally Posted by Magnum_Bob
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The only semi-auto rifles I’d trust in life or death situations are the M1 and the M14. If the M1A is built as good as the M14’s were, then the M1A too. I’ve not had much experience with the M1A though.

The AR platform works great for PD shooting and target shooting. As far as depending my life on a rifle, they are bottom of the heap for me, perhaps equal to trap door Springfields with copper cases and black powder loads, as used by General Custer’s men.

The Browning BAR is a great hunting rifle.

The 742/7400 isn’t nearly as bad as some say. Most of the nay sayers seem to work on the Remington semi-autos without knowing what loads have been shot in them, I think. The Browning is a better rifle than the Remingtons, IMO.

I have very little experience with German or other military’s rifles. Good or bad, IDK.
I you need to spend some time with an Armalite AR-10 t their heavy but good..mb

I had one. Accurate & heavy (>9lb if I remember right) the chamber was tight and all ammo had to have the neck trimmed. Ran a finish reamer in it and it worked fine. Great target rifle.
Still it’s an AR. More Army and Marines died in Vietnam due to M16’s miserable POS - won’t function. Never ever trust an AR with your life and I’ll never change my mind on that - I’m permanently prejudiced.


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Already said. If you could use the WWII BAR..... RZ.


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This guy will build you an M-1 in 35 Whelen.

https://shuffsparkerizing.com/


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Ohio Ordnance makes a semi-auto 30-06 with a 20-round magazine. It only weighs 19.4# but we all need to exercise more. Besides, it comes with a nifty carrying handle:

https://www.oowinc.com/exclusives/semi-auto/1918a3-slr/

https://www.oowinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/1918A3-SLR.pdf

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Originally Posted by Stammster
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.........No way I would carry a Remington Jam-o-matic with a 10 rd 3rd party mag for bear protection. Those things have enough issues with the standard 4 rd mags.

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This^^^^^^^

Which is why I got rid of mine.


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