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As testing gets better, they are able to find smaller and smaller traces of things.
Some of that schit has always been there....probably not glyphosate....but I wouldn't be surprised if you could find traces of glyphosate in organic crops.
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[quote]My father-in-law said the same thing about asbestos. He worked around it all his life and he was fine into his seventies.
Then he died from a very aggressive form of lung cancer.
I'm not saying roundup will kill you, just that a sample of a few means not very much.
/quote] I read the obituaries in the Little Rock paper every morning. Most of the people in it are younger than me.I have a good friend, since we were five years old, Life long farmer, probably used more roundup, than you and everybody that you know, added together. I have a lot of friends like that, since I live in a farming community. All alive, cancer free. Talk about something that you know about. miles
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Thanks Potsy. The Dr says it's bad for gut health and damages mitochondrial function. Seems like whole grains and healthy diet may not go together. Anything that will kill an insect or a plant can't be good for humans. Systemic poison was used on citrus fruits but I don't know if it's still used. Instead of spraying the trees they applied it to the ground around the the trees. When insects ate the poisoned leaves it killed them quickly before they could do much damage. This same poison was in the fruit but not enough to kill a human quickly (we're too big).
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Thanks Potsy. The Dr says it's bad for gut health and damages mitochondrial function. Seems like whole grains and healthy diet may not go together. Anything that will kill an insect or a plant can't be good for humans. Systemic poison was used on citrus fruits but I don't know if it's still used. Instead of spraying the trees they applied it to the ground around the the trees. When insects ate the poisoned leaves it killed them quickly before they could do much damage. This same poison was in the fruit but not enough to kill a human quickly (we're too big). We have pretty much contaminated every crop and food source that consumes those crops. Traces of arsenic can still be detected in rice that is farmed where cotton was treated with arsenic in civile war times. I do not believe that glyphosate becomes completely harmless in a short amount of time or is safe applied anywhere close to a food crop.
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[quote]My father-in-law said the same thing about asbestos. He worked around it all his life and he was fine into his seventies.
Then he died from a very aggressive form of lung cancer.
I'm not saying roundup will kill you, just that a sample of a few means not very much.
/quote] I read the obituaries in the Little Rock paper every morning. Most of the people in it are younger than me.I have a good friend, since we were five years old, Life long farmer, probably used more roundup, than you and everybody that you know, added together. I have a lot of friends like that, since I live in a farming community. All alive, cancer free. Talk about something that you know about. miles My spray pilot buddy fought his ass off to beat cancer. He didn't win.
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Thanks Potsy. The Dr says it's bad for gut health and damages mitochondrial function. Seems like whole grains and healthy diet may not go together. Anything that will kill an insect or a plant can't be good for humans. Systemic poison was used on citrus fruits but I don't know if it's still used. Instead of spraying the trees they applied it to the ground around the the trees. When insects ate the poisoned leaves it killed them quickly before they could do much damage. This same poison was in the fruit but not enough to kill a human quickly (we're too big). We have pretty much contaminated every crop and food source that consumes those crops. Traces of arsenic can still be detected in rice that is farmed where cotton was treated with arsenic in civile war times. I do not believe that glyphosate becomes completely harmless in a short amount of time or is safe applied anywhere close to a food crop. Arsenic being a very very common component of the earths crust. If you look hard enough...you will find it everywhere.
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Thanks Potsy. The Dr says it's bad for gut health and damages mitochondrial function. Seems like whole grains and healthy diet may not go together. Anything that will kill an insect or a plant can't be good for humans. Systemic poison was used on citrus fruits but I don't know if it's still used. Instead of spraying the trees they applied it to the ground around the the trees. When insects ate the poisoned leaves it killed them quickly before they could do much damage. This same poison was in the fruit but not enough to kill a human quickly (we're too big). We have pretty much contaminated every crop and food source that consumes those crops. Traces of arsenic can still be detected in rice that is farmed where cotton was treated with arsenic in civile war times. I do not believe that glyphosate becomes completely harmless in a short amount of time or is safe applied anywhere close to a food crop. Arsenic being a very very common component of the earths crust. If you look hard enough...you will find it everywhere. That doesn't mean it's good for consumption. Lots of stuff found everywhere in the earth you shouldn't eat. LOL. Everything "organic" ain't good for you.
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Diazinon is an organo-phosphate. It's not a food.
The label will tell you if a product can be used on food crops. But you have to read it.
Round Up was originally glyphosate. Now, from what I'm told, they have different formulations with added ingredients. You have to check the label.
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Thanks Potsy. The Dr says it's bad for gut health and damages mitochondrial function. Seems like whole grains and healthy diet may not go together. Um, no. There might be an occasion here or there that a crop is late and they want to speed up the drying. But, here's the deal. Glyphosphate is absorbed through leaves. If a farmer were to be trying to speed up harvesting, the plant would most likely be in the dough stage at the least. Meaning the grain kernels are filled and the only thing that is changing, is they are drying out. They are no longer taking anything up/in. The article later posted here stated the majority of preharvest spry is to kill weeds and after the wheat plant is completely dead. So no take up into the grain. when I worked for MSU, the best weed scientist I ever knew stated plainly, that you could drink a cup of roundup and your body would excrete it entirely with no metabolism of it at all. IOW, it would pass right through. Now, I haven't kept up on the recent studies and wouldn't say that long-term exposure couldn't be bad for you. But unless you are a farmer spraying the stuff all the time, glyphosphate shouldn't be a concern.
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My spray pilot buddy fought his ass off to beat cancer. I fully understand this, but pilots spray lots of chemicals, not only roundup. Lots of them need more protection, and careful handling. Don't lump all farm chemicals into into one hate. miles
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Not for preharvest burn down. That article stated the preharvest use of roundup was used on 3% of wheat acres. And in general, it is used after the wheat plant has shut-down/died. It is used to kill any weeds that are green and would affect harvest.
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Thanks Potsy. The Dr says it's bad for gut health and damages mitochondrial function. Seems like whole grains and healthy diet may not go together. Anything that will kill an insect or a plant can't be good for humans. Systemic poison was used on citrus fruits but I don't know if it's still used. Instead of spraying the trees they applied it to the ground around the the trees. When insects ate the poisoned leaves it killed them quickly before they could do much damage. This same poison was in the fruit but not enough to kill a human quickly (we're too big). Not quite. You need to understand that some of these agents are very specific to the unique pathways of a particular plant or animal. Your generic statement is reslly pretty shallow. Think about it, water can kill most all mammals, right? Yet, can mammals exist without water? Chocolate kills dogs. But does it kill you and me? Phenylketoneurics can't drink diet soda. It will kill them fairly quickly. Because their bodies can't metabolize phenlylalanine (from memory so forgive me if I got that a little wrong)
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I'll add to what Miles said. There is a lot of evidence of it being safe if properly used. A jury of illiterates can't really make an informed opinion on chemistry.
A thing Dr Gundry has said is that European pasta is healthier because they banned the glyphosate use.
Arguing such things is a long dark tunnel with lots of turns.
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My spray pilot buddy fought his ass off to beat cancer. I fully understand this, but pilots spray lots of chemicals, not only roundup. Lots of them need more protection, and careful handling. Don't lump all farm chemicals into into one hate. miles One hate? What are you talking about? Glyphosate is not harmless.
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I'll add to what Miles said. There is a lot of evidence of it being safe if properly used. A jury of illiterates can't really make an informed opinion on chemistry.
A thing Dr Gundry has said is that European pasta is healthier because they banned the glyphosate use.
Arguing such things is a long dark tunnel with lots of turns. Who is this "dr"? Glyphosate is not banned in Europe.
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Thanks Potsy. The Dr says it's bad for gut health and damages mitochondrial function. Seems like whole grains and healthy diet may not go together. Um, no. There might be an occasion here or there that a crop is late and they want to speed up the drying. But, here's the deal. Glyphosphate is absorbed through leaves. If a farmer were to be trying to speed up harvesting, the plant would most likely be in the dough stage at the least. Meaning the grain kernels are filled and the only thing that is changing, is they are drying out. They are no longer taking anything up/in. The article later posted here stated the majority of preharvest spry is to kill weeds and after the wheat plant is completely dead. So no take up into the grain. when I worked for MSU, the best weed scientist I ever knew stated plainly, that you could drink a cup of roundup and your body would excrete it entirely with no metabolism of it at all. IOW, it would pass right through. Now, I haven't kept up on the recent studies and wouldn't say that long-term exposure couldn't be bad for you. But unless you are a farmer spraying the stuff all the time, glyphosphate shouldn't be a concern. They said the exact same thing about Malathion too. Dad even saw a "salesman" drink a glass.
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Thanks Potsy. The Dr says it's bad for gut health and damages mitochondrial function. Seems like whole grains and healthy diet may not go together. Anything that will kill an insect or a plant can't be good for humans. Systemic poison was used on citrus fruits but I don't know if it's still used. Instead of spraying the trees they applied it to the ground around the the trees. When insects ate the poisoned leaves it killed them quickly before they could do much damage. This same poison was in the fruit but not enough to kill a human quickly (we're too big). We have pretty much contaminated every crop and food source that consumes those crops. Traces of arsenic can still be detected in rice that is farmed where cotton was treated with arsenic in civile war times. I do not believe that glyphosate becomes completely harmless in a short amount of time or is safe applied anywhere close to a food crop. Arsenic being a very very common component of the earths crust. If you look hard enough...you will find it everywhere. That doesn't mean it's good for consumption. Lots of stuff found everywhere in the earth you shouldn't eat. LOL. Everything "organic" ain't good for you. Alright. Lol apparently. There is arsenic in every you eat.....so stop eating. Problem solved.
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