Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters 20 vs. 12 gauge Which is more powerful for self-defense against humans/bear?

Well, I can't speak from personal experience. But, I know I've seen more than one cartoon that involved a frying pan for personal defense. It appears to work on everything from people, to wolves, to bears. The tremendous Chinese gong sound as it strikes, is almost as intimidating as the racking of a shotgun.

I'm just thinking we should try to find some versatility for a 5lb frying pan.

LMAO from your story Kevin. That "fella" had a pretty tough skull...

Travis

There's a whol lot more emperical "loony tunes" data than my one anecdote; therefore I will have to concede that the frying pan is a viable defensive tool:)

Good to see you have an open mind.

Travis

Uhhhhhh.......... Might want to ask Timothy Turdwell how that frying pan thingy works for bear defense...

"No actual experience to draw on, but just from what I know about bears and shotguns, you are unlikely to penetrate the gristle shield they have around their chest, possibly even with a slug."

Well there are slugs and there are SLUGS. I have killed black bears very reliably with Rottweil-Brenneke original slugs, and they gave me very good penetration- like breaking both shoulders and leaving a nice bleeding exit. Foster types penetrate less in my experience, and I know nothing about brown bears and slugs...

IF you plan on staying in the woods for a while then my choice would be a Remington Nylon 66 22 Rifle or Colt Woodsman 4 inch .Carrying a brick of ammo wouldn't be much different than a box of 12 ga slugs or buckshot and either rimfire could feed you for a long while. I would also have a short handle ax or hatchet and sharping stone which would be about as good a weapon at short range as you could ask for, plus making fires and shelter much easier because lightweight tents won't last you long for extended stays in the Wilderness .