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IIRC Mule Deer was testing some SII's in his rifles also, I think the 257 100 grainers. Correct!
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I've not found Accubonds in general to be very accurate. A few have given good accuracy, but less so than many others, including Nosler Partitions.
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I've killed several deer with the Swift from 223 up to 7mm Remington Mag.
Only killed one critter with an Accubond, a 6 1/2' bear with a 110gr from my 250AI.
Everything has died, [bleep] has been screwed up on the inside and I haven't recovered a bullet.
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Reloder28,
I'm curious about the 600+ pound oryx. Where did you find that? I have shot a number of oryx, including scimitar-horned and gemsbok, and the biggest was a gemsbok from the Karoo region of South Africa that went 550, weighed on the accurate (commercial) scales on the ranch.
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Do the SII seem to get caught under the hide, or do they penetrate all the way through? I thought the S2 was gaining promise after three critters killed & bullets recovered. It was the third that really bothered me. It was a yearling Sika doe taken with a 150 S2 from a 7 Rem Mag at roughly 60 yards. THe first surprise was the recovery of the bullet. That really really troubled me. Once recovered, the bullet had fragmented into three pieces, second surprise. THis was from a bonded bullet. THe bullet was dug out of the scapula, thrid surprise. No way even that little bone from the little doe should have stopped that bullet. I won't be using the remainder of my Scirocco's. On the flip side of the coin I have seen over a dozen animals whacked with the Accubond in .284 & .308, none of which ran more than 4o yards. Only one was recovered from a 600 lb + Oryx shot with a 30-06 at 140 yards in the shoulder. The handloaded round was averageing 3080 fps. The big critter took off and piled up after a 40 yard dash. THe 165 gr AB weighed in at 148 gr's. The longest bang flop was a 250 yard head shot on an Elk cow from the 30-06. Accubonds? Certainly. Scirocco's? Certainly not. I've found just the opposite. A 60 yard shot out of a 7mm Rem mag is gonna get interesting. Sounds like your doe didn't make it. I have used both AB's and Scirocco II's and have yet to have a problem with the Scirocco's. That being said I have only one deer that I have shot with the AB's so I'm trying to be open minded. It's easy to $hitcan a bullet after a bad experience, but one shouldn't expect every bullet to perform flawlessly in every application. KC
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Sciroccos have been found under the hide on occasion, after transiting rib, lungs, a packed gut and ended up just in front of the ham but still blew out a nice hole. I don't fret as they all got sick pretty quick.
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I developed loads for 165gr accubonds and scirocco IIs for my 30-06. Both shot well under an inch on the good groups and probably 1.25 inch when my equipment malfunctioned- couldn't have been me. Anyway, I ended up hunting with the scirocco load and took this deer last year. The shot was ~275 yrds and entered behind the shoulder, the animal was quartering towards me. I recoved the bullet from the rear hind right underneath the skin. If the shot would have been broadside, the bullet would definitely have passed right through. The deer fell so I'm happy with the performance. I've never actually shot anything with an accubond, but I'm sure it would do an equally good job. I've tried to post a picture of the bullet and the deer, hope it works. [img] http://www.facebook.com/editapps.php?ref=mb#/photo.php?pid=2841&id=1820494831&ref=mf[/img] [img] http://www.facebook.com/editapps.php?ref=mb#/photo.php?pid=2842&id=1820494831&ref=mf[/img]
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100gr SSII's land sub-moa out to 500 in my Roy....couldn't be happier. Hope to report on game soon. 257Wby @ 100yds What load you shootin? What rifle? Thanks.
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I don't have any on game performance with the Accubond. Last year I shot a buck at 30 yds with my 270 WSM using a 130 gr Scirroco at 3200+ fps at the muzzle. The bullet did not pass thru and was found on the offside shoulder just under the skin. Penetration was 10 to 12 inches. The bullet held together well considering the extreme impact speed. Penetration was not what I would have expected. Retained weight was 68 grains.
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WinModel70,
That photo looks more like a .358cal bullet to me than a .277cal bullet. Man that Swift opened up wide...... I bet the buck didnt go far....
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How's your girlfriend doing, Randy? The one in your avatar? (grin)
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Tim, She is big and butiful.....lol...and has been asking about you.....:GRIN:
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One word of advice just dont stand behind her when she farts......
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haha! Nice rejoinder Mr. Randy! Looks like a 'Whole lotta love there'
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So you going to shot your H&H today or what....grins...
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I may just do that,Randy. I must admit I have been hearing this voice out of the safe lately... "shoot me, you bastard!" (grin)
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You most obay the voice in the save! Your life could depend on it.... :GRIN:... Dont leave the 270win behind as the H&H will need a friend....
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Ya know Randy, If I had to pick two calibers for about any big game hunting I could imagine, I would choose the 270 and 375 ouch and ouch. Or if I was in a european mood, the 6.5 Swede and the 9.3X62. Great pairs, those two!
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Very nice. My two would be 257Roy and 358STA. Or maybe 243win and 325WSM.
If I was to go to Africa a 416 rigby would be my top choice....
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Good pics, Randy. I better get moving here, got to go hop on the bicycle for a bit. Have a good Memorial Day weekend, my friend.
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