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Come on America, Athletes and actors are not heroes, only soldiers, airmen,marines and sailors get that respect�and let's add firemen and LEO's
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Where the concept of the all around big game rifle becomes less ideal is when: 1. The terrain changes. 2. The distances change. 3. The quarry changes. 4. Finally I changed! Age and health dictated lighter guns for most use.
All guns should be locked up when not in use!
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I have two that'll do just fine!!
Wood/Blue Remington 700 Mtn 30-06 Sprg w/Leupold VX-III 2.5x8x36
Kimber 84M Select Claro 308 Win w/Leupold VX-III 2.5x8x36
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I have two that'll do just fine!!
Kimber 84M Select Claro 308 Win w/Leupold VX-III 2.5x8x36 Almost said that in a .257 Roberts, and for what I hunt 95% of the time, .257 Roberts is more than enough.
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My G33/40, in my old Brown or an Edge, with a Lilja #2 cut to 23" on it, Talley's, Uncle Mikes mtn sling and a 2-8 Leo with dotz in it.
Dober Dober, I notice there's no reference to a chambering... not surprising as it's the rifleman, not the cartridge, that makes the difference. Amen to that Mac, the round doesn't make that much diff to me when it comes to killiing. Dober
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Bob-if I didn't have my G33 the pre/fwt in an Edge, Talley, UN Mtn sling, and a leo with dotz is exactly what I'd run. Except most likely in 06 Improved.. Dober
"True respect starts with the way you treat others, and it is earned over a lifetime of demonstrating kindness, honor and dignity"....Tony Dungy
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Dober I am with you and my first choice is really the improved :);but you get those damn bears in the mix,and ....well since I have only used a 375 on them (and even though I have former buds who used the 270 with success on the big bruins)I like that the 06 can use those 200-220 gr bullets,which is why I have to choose it,with that special purpose in mind..........but for everything else I would be comfy with the 270,30/06,and maybe bestest of all a 7 mag with 160-175 gr bullets.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I hear you Bob, and perhaps cause I've never seen them b4 I feel this way but I feel that I'd be just fine on the big boys with my 270 and the 160 Nozler. I could be way wrong but I'd shoot the first round on my terms and the first round would be fatal. Now if the bugger still decided he wanted a piece of me I feel confident that I'd place the next bullet CNS and end the discussion toot sweet.
The 280 and the Mashburn with 175 Noz semi's would work for me as well.
Right or wrong I feel very intimate with my G33 and feel comfy defending myself against all but a couple critters in the world which I have no desire to shoot.
But an 06 with 200's or 220's wouldn't hurt my feelers either.
In all my time with black bruins (a world of diff I know) I've only had to defend my skin once. Bruin came from 9' at me and fast and I shot him uder the chin with my clients 25/06. End of the discussion with said pissed of bruin right now...grin
Dober
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I would use my .340 Wby Mag with 250 Nosler Partitions and be very happy!
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Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard
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I have two that'll do just fine!!
Kimber 84M Select Claro 308 Win w/Leupold VX-III 2.5x8x36 Almost said that in a .257 Roberts, and for what I hunt 95% of the time, .257 Roberts is more than enough. I've thought about selling the Kimber 308 and getting a Kimber Roberts, but already have four 257's. Why do I need five? Maybe I do need a fifth; wish they still made the Kimber Select Claro.
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Amen to that Mac, the round doesn't make that much diff to me when it comes to killiing.
Dober
It's the man that makes the tool, not the tool that makes the man, eh?
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To a point but it's far better to work smarter not harder. Driving 10 penny nails with a sledge or railroad spikes with a ball peen hammer is a fool's folly
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Of course Scott, but we're talking about using common sense and reason here.
At the end of the day, anything from a 260 Rem to a 340 Wby makes a good one-gun-gun, and its effectiveness is more up to the operator than many on these forums that hand-wring over minutia would understand.
But you're a guy that understands this stuff more than most I think...
“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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Yep, then I'll go back to my previous and recommend something stainless in a McMillan.
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This idea and the thought of getting too complicated lately is what got me building the rifle i am building now. I have a 700 ADL in .270 win on a B&C Ti stock( picked up on the fire) and a new weaver K6 fixed power scope. So far the rifle weighs around six and a half pounds or so. Ive adjusted the trigger, free floated the barrel and might bed the action. I wanted to build one that is light, accurate and doesnt kick like a missouri mule. Pending the range test i think ive done it. And all for less than $600.
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I have gotten the old idea of "beware the man with one gun" in my head, and can't get it out.
I think nowadays I fear the man with one gun for a different reason. From the folks I've known and met, the man with one gun likely doesn't know how to use it very well and really isn't into rifles. And because he isn't into rifles very much, he also doesn't shoot very much. This is also the guy who will buy the wrong ammo for his gun because it is typically the cheapest. And if a man can only afford one rifle, he likely can't afford much ammo to shoot it and truly be proficient enough to be some sort of fearsome marksman. That being said, I'm now down to one personal rifle for the moment, don't imagine that will last much longer though.
"For some unfortunates, poisoned by city sidewalks ... the horn of the hunter never winds at all" Robert Ruark, The Horn of the Hunter
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Stainless/synthetic Ruger M77 Mk II
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I have gotten the old idea of "beware the man with one gun" in my head, and can't get it out.
I think nowadays I fear the man with one gun for a different reason. From the folks I've known and met, the man with one gun likely doesn't know how to use it very well and really isn't into rifles. And because he isn't into rifles very much, he also doesn't shoot very much. This is also the guy who will buy the wrong ammo for his gun because it is typically the cheapest. And if a man can only afford one rifle, he likely can't afford much ammo to shoot it and truly be proficient enough to be some sort of fearsome marksman. That being said, I'm now down to one personal rifle for the moment, don't imagine that will last much longer though. I know plenty of old men that are quite handy with the one rifle they own. I believe there are some men out there that are just really practical and dont feel they need multiple rifles and usually get whatever job needs doing done with the one they got. For a long time i only had one rifle due to not being able to afford another and became quite proficient with it.
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Bob, Brad and Mark, it's ironic that as you know I'm putting this rifle together as we speak. The Hunter's Edge should ship this week. And the only hard decision is whether to put the 270 or 30-06 P-64 fwt barreled action in it when it gets here. I probably won't know until I have it in hand.
What makes the decision tougher is knowing there is no wrong decision.
Anybody who seriously concerns themselves with the adequacy of a Big 7mm for anything we hunt here short of brown bear, is a dufus. They are mostly making shidt up. Crunch! Nite-nite!
Stolen from an erudite CF member.
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Absolutely no wrong decision... I know what you mean about a "tough decision"... I'm going with 270, but could as easily go 30-06.
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