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Elections have consequences.
I have had bad luck this last 3 months and been in and out of doctors offices, MRI's etc and have yet to meet ONE med pro who supported the health bill...not ONE!
And I ask, forget wading into it, I bluntly asked each one, be it the girl who takes your blood pressure, the dude working the MRI machine, the doctor (be they ER, or family or specialist or chiropractor), physical therapy people, the nurses, all of them, I asked.
Not one liked it, ALL said something needs to be done blah blah and all had ideas, most common being tort reform (go back to the panel of doctors privately assessing a malpractice claim, judged by peers, not by jury) and insurance administration restrictions (overhead for insurance companies and paperwork)
I'm talking a total of 25 give or take and NONE like the bill?
WTF?


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Here in NC when you pull along side a car with a O bumper sticker it might well be Ozzie and Harriet driving it. Problem around here are the lifelong democrats whose mantra is "My dad was a democrat and by God I'm a democrat to." They don't have sense or internet access to see through all of the MSM bullsh!t that is being thrown at them. Hopefully some of this blind allegiance to the party will die off as their generation fades.


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Originally Posted by elkhunter76
Pat,

People like that I can forgive...it is the assshooles that still have BO bumper stickers on their cars like a badge of honor are the ones I would like to run off the road......


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I take a peek at the driver to when I see a BHO bumper sticker. I wonder how their mind is wired.


Boy, this sounds just like my behavior when I see a vehicle in traffic with a Bammy sticker. I ususally find myself pulling up next to them and performing a glaring headshake kind of move.


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bruinruin - I just pull up next to them point to their bumper and flip them off!


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Originally Posted by elkhunter76
Pat,

People like that I can forgive...it is the assshooles that still have BO bumper stickers on their cars like a badge of honor are the ones I would like to run off the road......
...along with those with 'Wellstone' bumper stickers...

I see one of those and I gotta take a pill... laugh


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Originally Posted by elkhunter76
Pat,

People like that I can forgive...it is the assshooles that still have BO bumper stickers on their cars like a badge of honor are the ones I would like to run off the road......


This past November my son switched Scout troops. The old one was a perpetual cluster that seemed likely to fold before long. The new one is well organized and run straight out of the Scoutmasters handbook. Last weekend we meet for a camping trip and the Scoutmaster pulls into the parking lot in a van with both an Obama and a Eric Massa sticker on the bumper. My heart sank. How bad does that look? A scoumaster with a Massa sticker on his vehicle? I think the Lord is testing me.

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Originally Posted by 2legit2quit
wow Pat i would think in your vocation you'd come across a broader spectrum of folks and know more Obama supporters, am thinking from now on i'm just gonna shorten that to O-holes...grin





Oh, plenty of the folks I work around are Democrats. I have professional relationships with many, many people that I do not, and will not, ever have a personal relationship with. Hence, politics will never be spoken in those circles. These are minorities, politicians, union workers and lawyers. There is an unspoken rule that politics is not discussed, as cops are almost always rigidly conservative and the others likewise.

The dialog mentioned comes from a cardiologist who purchased a recurve bow from me that I sold through a local classified site.


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Originally Posted by SAcharlie
Its GWB's fault.


What a [bleep] looser.


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Originally Posted by Southerntier8
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Pat,

People like that I can forgive...it is the assshooles that still have BO bumper stickers on their cars like a badge of honor are the ones I would like to run off the road......


This past November my son switched Scout troops. The old one was a perpetual cluster that seemed likely to fold before long. The new one is well organized and run straight out of the Scoutmasters handbook. Last weekend we meet for a camping trip and the Scoutmaster pulls into the parking lot in a van with both an Obama and a Eric Massa sticker on the bumper. My heart sank. How bad does that look? A scoumaster with a Massa sticker on his vehicle? I think the Lord is testing me.


I'd have loaded my son up and left instantly.


We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Its GWB's fault.


What a [bleep] looser.


Typical StupidAssCharlie.




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Originally Posted by ltppowell
My first one. At least the first one that I would associate with. It was pretty interesting. He is a medical professional and avid sportsman. He was also very honest and sincere. When talk ranged to politics, he admitted (apologetically)that he had voted for Obama. It seems the main reason for his vote was a very personal one. His nephew, a Navy Corpsman died mysteriously and the family got nothing from the Government but a big FU in way of explanation. Once he started talking about it, I couldn't stop him. Professionally, his own decision is ruining him, and he knows it. Emotionally, he would have foregone anything for change of the status quo. I'm only sharing this to remind some of you that not everybody who made that mistake is an idiot. Some were just desperate.


I sympathize with this man's pain but I do not understand his reaction ; did he think that G.W. Bush and/or the GOP had any part in the delay and poor quality of the response he got from the Navy???

This guy may not be an idiot, but under the stress of pain he made a bad judgment.

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In the end it does not matter because electing a RINO like McCain would have been worse - probably much worse - in the long term, but nevertheless his analysis of the situation was totally wrong!!!


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We can all shake our heads and look to the future, but if the R's nominate another Old White Guy because it's his turn, we will go down to defeat again.

God knows I respect the Bob Doles and John McCains of this world for their service and patriotism, but the deeds of 40 years past do not relate to the problems facing us in the 40 years ahead.

Some place in this country is a smart person that is honest and diligent. Of course a person like that would never lower themselves to politics.


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We might consider focusing on the House and Senate in 2010 rather than who will be president in 2012.

How much would Bam-Bam have passed since elected if he had Clinton's 1994 headwinds under the leadership of Gingrich rather than the Pelosi and Reid rubber-stamping he has at his disposal now?


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Originally Posted by isaac
We might consider focusing on the House and Senate in 2010 rather than who will be president in 2012.


nice try.

Can't get people to stop bashing Bush or how bad a fug up McCain was.

Beginning to wonder who's actually an agent around here.

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Originally Posted by SAcharlie
Its GWB's fault.


What a [bleep] looser.


Typical StupidAssCharlie.


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Originally Posted by 257wby
We can all shake our heads and look to the future, but if the R's nominate another Old White Guy because it's his turn, we will go down to defeat again.

God knows I respect the Bob Doles and John McCains of this world for their service and patriotism, but the deeds of 40 years past do not relate to the problems facing us in the 40 years ahead.

Some place in this country is a smart person that is honest and diligent. Of course a person like that would never lower themselves to politics.


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Originally Posted by RickyD
It's hard for most people to admit error. Particularly high stakes errors, often until further denial is ludicrous.

Ricky,

I think you are quite right about that, and it cuts both ways. The other problem is voters (citizens) only getting off their ass once every 4 years, or once every two years for the more political voters.

IF the Republicans had kept (or put) the pressure on Bush to do a good job, instead of saying "who cares, at least he is not Al Gore" we would be miles ahead as a country.

But they sat on their collective asses for four years, and after four years the best they could say for Bush was, "well, he's better than John Kerry".

You'd be highly insulted if someone said those things to your face, I expect.

The Democrats have a system that almost guarantees they will not win a national election, they work hard at losing, and they are good at it.

Bush and Cheney were unpopular, and so was the way they 'sold' their policies (nationally), Cheney was not running, so the Democrats had a chance to win.

In order to lose, they decided to have a excruciatingly long primary season, and pit the most disliked woman in America, against an inexperienced, little-known black, first generation African-American with a Muslim name, to divide their own party and guarantee they would lose.

To top it off, they picked the inexperienced black guy, to go up against a respected, experienced, moderate senior Senator, with a war-hero record and a trophy wife.

You can call it on account of sunspots, global warming, the NYT (yeah, a lot of voters read that), anything you want.

The Democrats did their level best to lost the election (as they usually do), in fact they went beyond their normal circular firing squad routine.

And they still won? But the Republican Party, and its leaders must be held blameless in all this, right?

Who was the leader of the Party for 8 years preceding the election?

If it wasn't in a very large part, GWB's responsibility, I'd like to know who you would blame? The Democrats, for not nominating Hillary? For not nominating Al Sharpton?

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