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I was raised to stand up when a lady approaches a table, to offer my seat to any elderly folks or others needing a seat on a subway, open doors for women (both in buildings and cars), etc., etc. I'd wager most men here do too, but every day I see men with what I see is having no class. I can't remember the last time I saw a man picking up a woman in front of my building actually get out, take any bundles or bag from the woman, and open, then close her door.

Also, I was taught that when dropping of a woman, to wait and make certain she gets in the house/whatever before taking off. On a related note, the fact that common courtesy, civility and being polite is so rare. And before anyone mugs me, I've noticed it all around the country, not just in the Bean. I will say that the buddies I know from the south *consistently* have shown themselves to be gentlemen, and do themselves proud in this respect.

It annoys the freaking hell out of me, and I guess I see it as another indicator that in many ways, the US citizenry, the youth in particular, really have lost touch with some of the propern niceties in life.


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I agree.

But I've also noticed more young ladies talking like sailors and picking fights with men...

Of course everyone thinks gangsta is "cool", even doughy looking kids.

Much easier things to do than getting smarter and finding a job I guess...

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If chivalry is dead ...

Women killed it.

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Not dead, just sickly.

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The ACLU killed it .............

I believe the chivalrists like myself have have all went underground trying to avoid unforseen loophole lawsuits.



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As an aside, once upon a time I worked at the Northeastern University Law School, proudly touted by many of its students and faculty as being the 'Queerest Law School in the Nation'.

I got a rude awakening the first month or so, the vicious looks and a few comments like, 'I can open my own damned door' from female students of the, um, gay persuasion. After that, I continued to do so at every single opportunity. It made some of them batshyte crazy with anger. A couple even wrote letters to the director, saying that I was insulting them and to knock it off. Thankfully, she was very nice, and told them that my opening doors for others was not against the law, or university policy. Tough darts there, Butch.

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Originally Posted by HawkI
I agree.

But I've also noticed more young ladies talking like sailors and picking fights with men...

Of course everyone thinks gangsta is "cool", even doughy looking kids.

Much easier things to do than getting smarter and finding a job I guess...


Agreed.

I don't think it's dead--------not around here anyway. I'm guessing it's partly a regional thing. I still act like my folks raised me, and don't give a tinker's dam if it's "uncool" or not. Considering what IS cool today, I'm trying pretty hard to avoid most of it!



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Chivalry is not dead, but it is very difficult to feel any enthusiasm for gentlemanly conduct at this present point in time.

As an aside, I have a licker neighbour in her fifties that swears, drinks and smokes more than I do....she has a bigger gut, and her knuckles hang lower to the ground, what is more she is not as easy on the eyes as I am (I am a forty-six year old big, hairy arsed bloke)!

She may not have balls, but she most definitely has the scars to show where they were.

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Originally Posted by 222Rem


I don't think it's dead--------not around here anyway. I'm guessing it's partly a regional thing. I still act like my folks raised me, and don't give a tinker's dam if it's "uncool" or not. Considering what IS cool today, I'm trying pretty hard to avoid most of it!



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Sorry, I was raised in the "old days", I still hold doors, don't cuss in front of ladies & little kids, remove my hat indoors, and stand for the ladies. Still use Sir & Ma'am & Mr., Miss & Mrs. till told to use first names. Being polite costs nothing and has many rewards.


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Originally Posted by T LEE
Sorry, I was raised in the "old days", I still hold doors, don't cuss in front of ladies & little kids, remove my hat indoors, and stand for the ladies. Still use Sir & Ma'am & Mr., Miss & Mrs. till told to use first names. Being polite costs nothing and has many rewards.


I know 'modern ' wimens want to appear self reilant.
But I still see them smile at me when I open the car door for my wife.

My grandmother NEver worked a car door.
If someone drove her home from church and we didn't see her ... it was :
"Go release grandma from the car damn it! "


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No it's not. I always get the car door for a woman, regardless if it's our first date or 500th. Always hold a door for a woman, but then I hold them open for men also.

I give up seats for them and assist them when the opportunity applies, most especially with the more elder.

Common decency applies to all sexes.


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
or 500th.



C'mon now. grin


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Originally Posted by 284LUVR
Originally Posted by Steelhead
or 500th.



C'mon now. grin


I'm still holdin car doors for wimens.
And even the wife!


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Fragile fragment of the former though I be, it's somewhat embarrassing to have someone else � especially a girl or woman � open a door or hold one open for me to struggle through. Challenging a chore though it be, I'm more at ease struggling to open it myself and my accurst blest walker.

Still druther make extra trips and drop stuff along the way than have a sweetie carry my groceries out to the pick-up for me.

Old druthers die hard.

Beautiful are the smiles and sweet the "Thank yous!" that I get from ladies who're gracious enough to wait patiently for me to wrestle doors open for them. Always deeply heart-warming for a decrepit ol' codger who was raised on that special Southern flavor of courtesy.

And there's no way to express the pang that a sweetie's comment shot through me a couple of days ago � "Oh! Your hands are soft!" (So sweet to hear, in days now so long gone � and still Oh! so sweet to remember now � "Oh! Your hands are warm!")

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Forget feminazis. Modern ladies still appreciate "archaic" male courtesy.


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Originally Posted by T LEE
Sorry, I was raised in the "old days", I still hold doors, don't cuss in front of ladies & little kids, remove my hat indoors, and stand for the ladies. Still use Sir & Ma'am & Mr., Miss & Mrs. till told to use first names. Being polite costs nothing and has many rewards.


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When I was a superintendent for a construction company,I had a woman for an architect on one job. We were going into the building and I opened the door for her. She said that I didn't have to do that for her. I said that that's the way my mother raised me, so get over it.


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I practice chivalry. It doesn't matter if it is my Wife or some other female. Not only is it classy but it gives you an opportunity to 'glass' them a bit.

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Back in the mid 70's, and being the properly raised 20 something that I was, I opened a door for a young woman in her mid thirties and was met with the comment "I can open my own GD door, haven't you heard of equal rights for women?" To which I responded. "does that mean I can kick the [bleep] out of you like I would a man if he talked to me that way?" She just rolled her eyes and walked through the open door. At that point I realized the damage had already been done and I should just focus on the "Free Love" residual benefit that came with "equality"...much easier to deal with...


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Originally Posted by 284LUVR
Originally Posted by Steelhead
or 500th.


C'mon now. grin


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I still hold doors and do the stuff I was taught at a very young age to do.

One of the worst cussings I ever stood and took happened when some "lady" at least she looked like a lady, informed me about how competent she was to open the door herself.

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