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The record is replete with examples of your ideal Republican getting their asses handed to them because they failed to excite the base. If you cannot learn from history, you are doomed to repeat it.

Let me translate JeffO for you all seeing as how I don't dislike JeffO the way most of you do.



A conservative who wants to cut government spending, balance the budget, and cut taxes to get the private sector going again. More Liberal in the liberty and freedom department. More Liberal in recognizing that many of us are NOT Christians and do not think that Christianity and the Christian God are the answer to everything.



Family values: We all have family values BUT NOT all family values are Christian.

God: Not all of us believe in the Christian God. Play the "there is only one God and he is Christian" is a loser with many of us.

Culture: There are many religious and secular cultures in America. Play the "there is only one culture in America and it's Christian" and you lose.

War: A candidate who advocates nation/empire building through war is a loser to some of us.

A culture-war Conservative: Jeff meant two seperate items here.

DD---I don't often agree with you but I sure agree with your last post.

Spanky ,Hawkeye ,and Derby ...... that's how the last three posts line up .

Be good to save'em and do the polar opposite of anything tbe three of them agree on and dis-regard their individual opinions .

Well .... I'll be damned if Spanky didn't prove my point while I was typing out my post !

I don't believe you're correct. "Culture war" is a buzz term of the left, meant to marginalize anyone who opposes the efforts of the left to use the power of centralized government to engage in social engineering on the American culture.

That should give him a great deal of pause.

In Jeff's original post there was a hyphen between culture-war. That usually indicates to seperate items. Based on Jeff's post and knowing Jeff I think that's what he meant. I could be wrong.

I'm enough of an elitist that I do not find it difficult to give credit when credit is due.

Strive to emulate me and eschew your childish ways.

Disagree all you want but a radical Christian right winger Neocon Republican is a loser against Obama.

A radical left winger Neocon Republican is a loser against Obama.

Only a Constitutionalist's centrist's Republican who is right of center on fiscal issues and a wee left of center on social issues and doesn't believe nation/empire building war stands a chance of beating Obama.

DD---Sorry my last post was not directed at you. You are (usually) a gentleman and a scholar unlike most of your cohorts.

I figured that.

So, you agree with Spanky's post above?

When Romny receives the nomination, just remember you said that. Hey, I don't like the guy, but he's the leading contender at this point, and he'll be hard to beat.

Everyone was saying exactly the same thing (including myself) about McCain...I about fell out of my chair when McCain came from the back and swept the nomination. I kept asking, "what the hell are Republicans thinking; McCain isn't a Republican"

Republicans didn't support him in the Republican primaries. Democrats and independents did. Insanely, the Republican Party in most states permits those who are not registered Republicans to vote in the primaries, so they select for us moderates who stand no chance of winning in the general because unable to fire up the Republican base. If the base isn't fired up, you don't get the necessary force-multiplier effect during the post-primary campaign period.

Our ex-Governor Closet Charlie Crist had a lot to do with McCain getting the nomination.

Romney has a strong organization in the primary states. He can easily finesse the health care issue by simply admitting he made a mistake and supporting the repeal the present national health care law.

Right now I would bet on him.

I voted for Romney in the Florida primary last time around as the best of a bad bunch. I sure hope that someone better emerges in 2012. Too bad Marco Rubio wasn't elected to the Senate a few years ago. He's a true conservative who could give Obama a real challenge.

Mitt Romney has an R after his name, but does not possess a single Conservative bone in his body!!

He's a RINO in every since of the word.

(that's why Spunky said he "would bet on him")

I like Rubio and think he will be a serious contender in future Presidential politics but not in 2012.

Right now I predict: Romney will get the nomination.