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That's the ultimate question...Will a 300/350/405 or 550 grain .458 bullet deflect more than a high velocity 1/3 the weight and half the caliber.

If there is know clear shot,don't shoot and you did right!!!!


Jayco

To me a "Brush gun" is more about handling in tight confines. I certainly don't intend to take a first shot through brush or anything else.

Exactly!!!!!!!!!!

Jayco

Lee24 invented the concept of "brush guns."

He took the answer to the question with him to that great internet junk pile in the sky.

Simple answer from me is don't shoot through brush if you don't want bullets deflected.

I can't disagree, but I SAW surprisingly little deflection when I actually shot the test, at least with the .358.

I could dig the thread back up I suppose but it's one of those polarizing topics... everyone gets all pissy...

Well, you guys have all come up with good posts and points, and no contention ( wtf..?..)
Seems like we are all pretty much on the same page, handling qualities take the nod over caliber for brush guns...I know I won't intentionally take a shot where I can't
"thread the needle"...one of my brush shot stories was a whitetail standing right behind a thin screen of juniper, about 6 inches thick, I figured WTH, and sent a TBBC that way, sure enough, it was deflected, but not enough to not kill the deer....lucky that time...

Ok, if we need a little spice to the thread, lets talking about hunting wolves in the brush, and chasing them with pitbulls and democrats....

Can we hunt Democrats with wolves instead?

A pitbull would totally maul a wolf.. jeez dinkwe we've covered that already.......

How bout a reality show where wolves hunt democrats??

I have no brush guns, everytime I try to shoot through brush I miss.

Yep...and any kinda gun will do...

No rebuttals. No opinions. However, I've been having fun with a 12 guage Rem 870. It kicks hard, but at 50 yards and a plain bead sight I can stack (5) 1 oz slugs in a 3" circle. Dag-gum...I want to pop a hog with one of these things. Bet it'll knock the squeeeeel out of it...even in the brush.

GB

Had one. That's recoil!! In close it would put the hurt on a hog (or a Dem or a wolf)

Where I hunt you often as not might have a hell of a time seeing a deer 30 feet away. I cut shooting lanes. Long, wide shooting lanes. a brush gun for me is one that is quick and accurate at short range. My experience is that any bullet is so easy to deflect that it really doesn't matter which you choose. I have fired FMJ tracers into aspen cuttings and willow swamps. You would think that they should go in a relatively straighter line than a soft point expanding bullet. The damn things look like a pinball the way they bounce around, and I've actually worried they might just turn around and get me. There is no predicting where they will go that I can see.

I hear a Model 64 30-30 could work

Now my brush gun for the last several years, especially in the oak cuts, is the Marlin 1895 .444 lever gun. light and fast to the shoulder. It's 265 grain bullet is plenty even for those wood buck in Alberta,Canada. It kills deer better than the "Hammer Of Thor".

Quit yawin and let'z go git um!

I don't shoot any caliber bullet through brush and expect it to stay in tact and on track.
My brush guns aren't for shooting through brush they are for shots that are up close in dead falls and down timber.
I don't like blood mush from fast loads up close so in dark places I'll take a 45-70 or Whelan.
Lately it's been a bow though...

I have most all the brush and flat shooter calibers. To me the .308 Win seems to cover about all the bases. DMc's pump carbine in .308 would just tickle me to death for a brush gun. I would venture say that it may be a .358. That would be ok, too.

Just use what the Benoits have used successfully for fifty years; Remington 760 carbines in .270 and .30/06.