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I shot Bin Laden out of an AWACS with a .243

JM,

I've sat by for days watching you spew your crap! I now know you're full of it!

First off, snipers DO practice shooting in odd positions. How do I know? I practice it about every month; shooting through a port that forces one to hold their rifle 90 deg to the right or left, forcing the shooter to place their bodies in weird positions. I also compete in and SO for the Utah State Snipers Shoot of which I took 5th place last year and top Precision Shooter this year. For you to claim a sniper would actually expose himself shows how little you actually know about it.

And then....

If you don't believe a 243 could kill at 600 yds, you've got a lot to learn. Good budd of a budd of mine killed a bull on the Monroe last year with a 95 grain Berger VLD from a 243 improved at 850 yards. He hit it in the middle of the lungs and it blew them up like a bomb. Bull was chasing cows and filled up his lungs with blood very quickly and died within 50 yards.

That same budd of mine, killed his bull at 1084 yds last month with his 338 Snipetac. He took 4th place overall in the same Utah State Sniper Shoot back in Sept.

If you don't like the NF scope in question, say your peace and be done with it. To keep constantly attacking a guy for stuff you apparently know little about, is going beyond sharing an opinion.

Alan

Hello idiot.

First, I made a comment that the NightForce 2.5-10x36 was dim in certain applications for me and I believed there were better choices in those applications.

I never said the scope was junk or criticized anyone else for using it. I simply stated that I didn't find it to be an ideal hunting scope. Many others on here said the same thing.

You need to go back an re-read clown.

My comments on the pics were directed at the gent who suggested shooting under a car at a 90 deg. angle. Obviously, that's not where the position is most useful unless there are some other circumstances to be considered.

As far as lobbing 95 grain bullets with 500 ft. lbs of energy at game animals over 600 yds away, There are certainly better head stamp choices for that kind of work when you consider wind drift and down range energy.

Most hunters do there best to ensure a humane kill and use the proper equipment to minimize the risk of wounding and losing an animal.

I understand that a [bleep] up hit made by the world famous Utah State Sniper team on a paper target just results in hurt feelers, but to responsible folks who actually hunt, the consequences are a little more serious...

That all of the above escapes you is not surprising.

Sorry your puzzy got hurt in all this. Maybe a hug from your crackshot buddy will make you feel better.

JM,

Three words.

You're an....... IMBECILE!

That's a compliment coming from the best shot in Hobble Creek Canyon, Utah.

laffin.

quit fighting, it's Christmas


Oh and you guys can go in and buy a NF 5.5-22X50, speed turrets and Zero Stop NPR1 ret. for my stocking! Wait, better put it under the tree, it's too heavy, my stocking will fall off the mantel. At least the scope won't break!!

Good entertainment don,t stop, both present good points between the shots.

I have one on my .223 AR. Works. You can try it whenever we get together next. If you're in a situation where the thin hair aint working for you, light it up! That's what the illuminated reticle is there for.

JM,

I don't have a dog in this fight. But here's a little experiment I did last winter. I think my eyes are changing for the worse--maybe like yours. We all get that way. I posted these findings on another optics topic last year.

I went outside in the middle of the night, no moonlight. Leupold VX 3, Trijicon 3-9, and NF 2.5-10X32, and lined up on my woodpile 60 yards away. With both the Leupold and the Trijicon, I could see the woodpile. With the NF, I could see the individual pieces of wood.

I'm needing more power these days for target shooting, but that little 2.5-10 NF I have on the 'yote whacker, is a sweet scope. As always, just my opinion. Others will vary...

Alan,

Blasphemy!!!! 243s are too small for deer, how can you kill an elk....let alone over 1/2 mile?

My longest WT deer was at 400 yds, 6BR/105 Amax, 2850mv...double lunged. Figured over 1K based on #s, but I never put #s in my formula below.......

Success = Success, regardless how the end goal is achieved.

I never owned an NF, but would welcome a few additional models that mirror common models hunters use...even a lowly 6x fixed

If I ran that company, I'd try marketing a scope of around 3-10/12 w/hunting friendly reticle, and in a lighter package if possible.

NF experts....what makes the weight so much more than say a Leupy? Tube or Glass?

Tube and internal components. And NF is NEVER going to cater to the hunting crowd. So lets just get that straight, right now.

I've talked to them about building me certain scope w/certain reticles, and they ain't having ANY part of it. They cater to the military, and benchrest. If that works for you, o.k. If not, they couldn't care less.

Right now, NF is at LEAST 26 weeks out with their orders. I guess alot of us just plain like 'em...

When you build a scope that truly will not break, it's going
to be heavier.

28 weeks as of 3 November when I placed an order.

Alan

Yep! 243 Win and elk....at long range

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthread...80482/all/A_Girl_An_Elk_A_243_Win_105VLD



Alan

Lol - yeah, foot lbs are often over-rated

You knew I was kidding.

No long ranger here but I do have a comment on my Nightforce 2.5-10x24's toughness, it has withstood over 250+ rounds of full power 505 Gibbs loads pushing the 600 gn. Woodleigh's in excess of 2425 fps.

It tracks perfect, and hold's zero like a bank vault buried in lead , forgive my paltry attempt at humor, but its a TSOB and I love it.

Gunner

YOU TALKING TO ME? YOU TALKING TO ME???

Alan

YOU TALKING TO ME? YOU TALKING TO ME???

Alan

Alan, hope you and the Mrs. are set for a Merry Christmas.

Good grief. I should never have asked.