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That was an awsome shot, where did the bullet hit? high shoulder? ya John, where was the point of impact for such an immediate knockdown? She did good. High shoulder. I'm impressed, tell me more about the scope. Must have had turrets. Yes the scope had turrets. Little more than stunt shooting and certainly can't be called hunting by any means. Not something to be proud of.
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Guy from Bama is the worlds foremost authority on western Elk hunting...right
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Well you - or someone else obviously worked with her so she made a heck of a shot. Betting she remembers that for a lifetime!
Don't think I could make that shot right now - caliber be damned. Met John at the wyoming 24hc gathering...he took 6-7 of us out and we were all hitting 600, 700 then 1100 yds...no issues...probably the same .243 in the vid.
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Little more than stunt shooting and certainly can't be called hunting by any means. Not something to be proud of. Well just exactly how would you propose they shoot the elk in that wide open country if not from long range?
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That's a cool video. The 243 is a good killer, no doubt. Those elk sure don't seem hard to kill.
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Swampy could have done that shot off hand.. with open sites...
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Well you - or someone else obviously worked with her so she made a heck of a shot. Betting she remembers that for a lifetime!
Don't think I could make that shot right now - caliber be damned. Met John at the wyoming 24hc gathering...he took 6-7 of us out and we were all hitting 600, 700 then 1100 yds...no issues...probably the same .243 in the vid. Tom, That was the same .243 Win you and the other guys shot at the gathering in Wyoming. Still seems to shoot OK. Jeeeezusss. I'm a believer. John what do you start the VLDs at? TG, 3050fps. Curious - what was the windage call? Sounded like it was blowing some but hard to say - microphone could be making it sound worse than it was. Teal, Where we were setup there was a left to right gusting to about 10mph. In the video you can see the wind in the notch was running the opposite (right to left) from the elks breath. I figured she would need 2 MOA at the top and told her to hold right in the middle of the elk. If you listen to the wind it drops and the vapor from the elk�s breath drops down right before she shoots. Right before the shot we change to hold to right behind the shoulder and got about 1 MOA of left to right drift. I'd have used dots and a Core-lokt.... Nice She was good enough to do it even with substandard equipment. I have one question, did you do that with a fixed 6X scope??? John Shame on you for using a 243 on elk- What would you have done if that young lady had had to take a long shot?? Would have snuck closer. I had my camo on. [Little more than stunt shooting and certainly can't be called hunting by any means. Not something to be proud of. Well I was proud of her. You have yourself a nice day, Ed.
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call me crazy but when i see it done, it sorta negates the "you can't do it" crowd.
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Most impressive! I love it!
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every dog has it's day. obviously a spine or head hit. i am a long time elk hunter. don't see whats so special about this. could have just as easily wounded the elk. rather have seen all the misses included in the other two " set-ups "
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every dog has it's day. obviously a spine or head hit. i am a long time elk hunter. don't see whats so special about this. could have just as easily wounded the elk. rather have seen all the misses included in the other two " set-ups " Doin is better than guessin..
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every dog has it's day. obviously a spine or head hit. i am a long time elk hunter. don't see whats so special about this. could have just as easily wounded the elk. rather have seen all the misses included in the other two " set-ups " Well that was the first and only shot she has ever fired at a big game animal. Wish I had her record. I never figured out guys who wanted to see others fail more than they wanted to see success but you are proof such people exist. Congratulations???
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I love these threads The core-loks & dots comment was charish Entertaining video... Thanks for posting
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John,
You and your friends use the Berger VLDs a lot so I have a question about them working up close. If a cow had presented itself at 25 yards would you still had her shoot high shoulder or would you have her shoot it behind the shoulder?
I am thinking about getting 150 grain .277 Bergers VLD perking in my heavy, very accurate old .270 and where I hunt I am just as likely to shoot at real short range as mid-range 3-400 (to you) distances.
Congrats to the young lady, she put the bullet exactly where it needed to be.
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Wow. nice shot. I can't believe a .243 could do that. I am on the same page you are.... Doc Only possible with 243 if it's a youth or a woman. For a young woman it's a slam dunk.
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and only on cows. bulls are way too tuff to be perforated by the lowly 243 shot by a heavy-handed man.....
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Very neatly done John and hunter. Darn it, now I want to sell my '06's and get told by the experts here that a new .243 won't work. Heck, even that might be fun. E
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every dog has it's day. obviously a spine or head hit. i am a long time elk hunter. You are obviously someone who hasn't read anything about new bullets in the last twenty years. I think JB would have told us if the spine had been severed when the animal was dressed out. Bergers produce what you saw in that video more often than any other bullet.
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Beautiful thing... Those 105s. Thanks for the info. I'll have to pop an elk soon this year with one.
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