Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Healthcare rationing is steamrolling toward us...

Geez. Wonder how letsgetreal is gonna handle this onelce his/it's preexisting condition, that now won't be covered. Ends up giving him/it. A problem that requires surgery and the.gov says he/it dont have enough useful years left. Thats just gonna be a shame-----not

Well, didn't OH vote in the majority to re-elect the Azzhole-In-Chief??

Guess they better not whine and cry then, IYAM... All them O-voters better not utter so much as one PEEP of complaint. They wanted it, they voted for it and now they GOT it.. Screw them...

And if you complain about it or run for office, they will leak your medical records.

very nice

Those fcking Libs like it - they think rationing is more "just" than allowing people to buy the care they want and can afford.

Here's a recent report from north of your borders. At least in Manitoba, critical surgeries are performed in a timely manner (whatever timely means) but elective surgeries suffer badly. They are proposing new policies to guarantee that such elective surgeries happen within 18 months. That's the improvement on the current wait times, 18 months. Compare that to however your system performs.

You're right about Ohio going for Obama. However, the sad part is that only 10-11 counties went for him, but unfortunately that's where the population centers are...like many other states.


maddog

It's never to late to repeal something. Let everybody get a good taste of O care. When they have had enought , suddenly the politicians will wake up. Scared for their jobs, just like most gun grabbers did. The difference is this effects every one not just gun owners. Hasbeen

While I fully agree with that, the damn thing should have NEVER (I repeat NEVER) have been allowed to be judged Constitutional... Just think of all the nightmares associated with this crap if it would have been thrown out?? The money, the lawsuits, the bill-after-bill-after-bill to toss it out - only to have Hairy-Azzed Reid round-file it.. And all THAT is just a fraction of all things/people associated with it..

(Thanks RINO Roberts, you POS)

Someone once said: KIll 'em all, Let God sort "en out. Seems to fit, don't it?

Terry

Can you imagine how many layers of bureaucratic paper-shuffling jobs this will create. Good paying Govt. jobs is all this admin. is capable of creating. Somebody has to pay for all that paper-shufflin'. Is there anything to do with quality healthcare included in this multi-Trillion dollar experiment? I am skeptical.

In my office we have a large percentage, maybe a third, of patients that are on welfare or full disability. Those are the patients we see weekly for inane bs problems. Stuff that people who are employed and have healthcare wouldn't bother with. But if its free, why not abuse it? Makes me want to puke. In my estimation, this third of the patient populace makes up a full 90% of the appointments. It has been proven that 15% of the population is responsible for 90% of the healthcare dollars spent. I could go on and on.........

The constitutionality of ObamaCare has not yet been fully determined.

True, SCOTUS did rule that the penalty portion of the law is constitutional since it is really a tax.

However:

1. It also ruled that as a tax, the penalty could not be greatly increased. It's only a constitutional tax if it stays at fairly modest (non-coercive) levels. They can't increase the penalty to force people into the system. That will cause the system to fail.

2. Since it is now a tax, the law is subject to the constitutional provision that all revenue bills must originate in the House. The Senate took a completely unrelated bill the House had passed, stripped out all the text, and kept the bill number. They then inserted the ObamaCare bill under that number. Does that qualify as having the bill originate in the House? Personally, I doubt it, but the suits are working their way up through the courts. We'll find out.

Personally, I'd have a very good day if SCOTUS struck down the law under the origination clause.

Ohio can GFI. They elected the sumbich.

Just found out today my premium went up 2600 bucks to renew....

Well, if you count 98% as not 'fully' a done deal, I guess you're correct.

Define 'greatly'.. Define 'fairly modest'.. Ya think they care? Besides, that'll just give 'em more of a legal reason to deny coverage to those who don't have a lot of 'meaningful contribution to society' left to justify the expense..

Yep.. You can bet the Azzhole-In-Chief, through his butt-buddy E. Holder will say "oh, you betcha.." Hah. Doubtful - Most courts have said the plaintiff's 'lack standing', IIRC.. But that won't matter. These judges all have families.. And if the Chief Justice can be arm-wrestled into submission, these judges are gonna be like taking candy from a baby..

A very good day indeed.. But don't be surprised if (1) it doesn't get there and (2) that, even if it does, Roberts will find a way to 'make the law work, not overturn laws passed by Congress'..

Exactly...

.gov can shove it up their ass, blowbammy care don't apply to me.

Gunner

It's not only Ohio that's going up 88%. The guy that works across the hall from me wife works at Blue Cross and she says its going to happen to every body that is paying into the system whether directly or through there employer. When you add all of those no payers someone has to pay.

That sucks, just another load of logs on the backs of the working men and women.

Gunner

How would you do the math to project the number of "productive years in the work force" for a third generation welfare recipient?

<snip>

Ought to be able to tie them up in the legal system if the plaintiffs choose a suitably conservative jurisdiction to file.