Home Forums Reloading Big Game Rifles More Barnes TSX "failures" LOL!

I also don't see where JWP said FMJ.

It was here. FMJ's for big game.
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/3523621/3/587_Mulie

FMJ's for big game! The most absurd thing I ever heard.

Anyway JWP. I am done with this silly thing. Use what you want dude. Tracers incindiary, whatever.

Better yet re-write history. I am done with this silly thing. Your posts are indicative of your IQ.

I only responded to your analogy that a FMJ through the lungs would do no more damage than a kniting needle which is BS

Te follow quote illistrates the point





http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/3523621/6

Put this stuff in front of the guys on the Long Rage [Range] Hunting forum.

They have an answer to everything, and it is always to just keep shooting [THEIR WAY]!

The LRH guys don't want to get closer; no bragging rights there. And, they will only walk that long ways to where the game stood, NOT to where the game ended up.

(No bragging rights either in telling about follow-up hikes caused by long range-low velocity-bullet failure stories)

You know this how? Do you have experience in long range hunting? What is you experience with low velocity bullet failure?

JWP,

Don't give the guy the time of day he is a troll, Just like the author of this thread. Let them live in there own little world where they know everything. Plenty of good folks here to converse with.

As far as I'm concerned, jwp need not prove anything here. His record speaks for itself. I'd bet he's forgotten more about hunting and shooting than this clown ever read.

I think the color is cool. The fact that you got 'em from dead animals says a lot, but lack of expansion does too.

These ultra premium bullets were developed to fill a niche in the market left when cup and core bullets didn't perform in super fast magnum cartridges. In my opinion (and I believe that everyone is entitled to their own) that is where they shine.

I personally don't care for the wear and tear on my shoulders and ears so I don't shoot magnums... to say nothing of the wear and tear on my wallet that these little chunks of gold would introduce.

Cool bullets. Definately make for sweet pics when driven fast enough. Those Whelen bullets woulda looked a lot cooler if they'd have been Interlocks or even Partitions shot quartering-to or -away... in my opinion. Even so, dead is dead, but in a Whelen I think there are better nails for that particular hammer.

Thanks for sharing!

Nice friendly thread here.

I don't have a dog in this argument or a desire to be involved but in my (limited) experience with FMJs they don't do much damage unless bone is hit. I suspect this beaver is no exception. I shot a few coyotes with 223 FMJs and they usually ran a good hundred yards before they died. When they did die right there, they were hit in the head or shoulder and bone splintage looked to be the cause of the massive damage.

I have also seen the same thing with dogs hit with my 340 Wby and tough "elk" bullets. With a .338 bullet through the lungs they don't just fold up instantly like they do with a good expanding .224 soft point.

just got back from RSA. My Son shot a Kudu, Zebra, Warthog, Duiker and an Impala with a 7mm-08 using Barnes 140gr TSX's @ 2800 fps. Very minimal expansion. 4 out of 5 animals were shot thru the heart. The Zebra was shot thru the shoulders-Heart. 7mm hole in and 7mm hole out. Ran 120 yards before it died, not a single drop of blood!!!
I used .338 WM 225 TTSX's .338 hole in and about 3/4 inch exit hole, lots of blood.
Any one else experience similar problems with the TSX's
Mike

I'm going to be developing a load for 225 gr. Tipped TSX's for my wife's .338 Win. I suppose it will fail as badly as all of the old original 225X's did on all of her one shot kills! I believe she's somewhere around 6 or 7 elk, 1 bear and 1 moose. Pretty poor performance by any measure. memtb

I wouldn't know if they failed or not. I've never recovered one from an animal, and every one I've shot with a TSX died almost where it stood.

Try the 110 grain TTSX for the 7-08 @ ~3200fps. You'll get much more expansion with the extra speed and the bigger nose cavity + polymer tip.

I picked up a box of those 110's to try out this year. They are practically the same length as a 140gr BTSP. Seems like every time I hear about a TSX not expanding much, it's the hollowpoint version, is hitting at a fairly low impact speed, and is below .30cal in diameter. I have had no expansion problems with the standard TSX, but I've only run them at high speeds (3,300+). My TTSX experience is limited to .308 and .338 versions, but MV's were at 2,900fps and expansion was always good.

I have been using the ttsx for a few years now with no complaints. Shot a wild boar in California with my 284 win loaded with the 140 ttsx, hit him in the neck, one shot kill with a one inch plus exit hole. Last December I shot my first bull elk at 270 yds with my 300 wsm using the 165 ttsx, it runs 3160 out of my Win m70, hit the shoulder going in, found bullet in hide on opposite side, dropped in his tracks.

Tail Hunter,
Thanks for the advice. I will try speeding up the lighter bullet and switch to the TTSX. Like I said in my original post I was very satisfied with the performance of the 225 TTSX I used in my .338WM. It was the 140 TSX in my Son's 7-08 that did not expand.
I normally shoot the TSX/TTSX's in larger calibers (above .338) This was our first go at using the TSX's in the smaller caliber.
HMMMM! Maybe if I am stuck on using the 140 grain bullet I will just have to go out and buy a 7mm mag or a 7mmSTW. LOL!

I've only shot two cow elk with my .35 Whelen and the 225 gr. Barnes TSX. The first was in 2010 at about 150 yards. Elk dropped very fast at impact. Elk #2 was shot with the same load as before and dropped at impact. Range about 350 yards.What can I say when I'm running 100 percent? The load does 2710 FPS at the muzzle.
I have heard thoughthat speed is the monometal bullet's friend regarding proper performance. I realize two cow elk is not much for statisical proof but you can bet I'll most likely be using that .35 Whelen on elk again next year. Well maybe. I have two rifles that haven't been blooded yet and if I don't draw for deer I just may use one of those. JUst have to see how that works out.
Someone commented that theyd like to see a lead/jacketed bullet punch knitting needle holes. Well, I had that happen on the largest bodied Mule Deer I ever killed. Bullet was a Nosler 180 gr. Partition. The first shot cut a narrow groove in the top of the deer's heart without actually puncturing a hole in it. Shot #2 punched through both lungs. When I opened him up, the holes in the lungs looked like I'd poked him with a #2 pencil. No other damage except that tiny hole. I broke his neck with the last shot. So yes, stuff does happen and sometimes bullets just don't behave like they're supposed to.
Paul B.

I used the TSX 130 .277's on at least fifty plains game and had inconsistent expansion. This was over about an eight year period. About one in ten either expanded less than expected or the nose riveted to one side and failed to expand. The new TTSX seem to have solved that problem. Have used both 110 & 130 without problems.