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The possum cops here in Kentucky switched from the M&P to the Glocks in .40 a couple of years ago. I overheard a couple of them talking at a shooting range one day, and they were fussing about the M&Ps breakage problems.
They never said WHAT parts were breaking, but that it was a problem they had from the git-go.


Yep, they had a short lived affair with the Smith and Wesson. They are having grief with their new Gen 4 Glocks rusting now.


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Being cops, they probably never clean their own service weapon and there sure isn't much to rust on a Glock anyway! I've got three and never had a bit of a problem and most certainly having a hell of a time getting the polymer parts to corrode.


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Being cops, they have their pistols hanging in a holster on gunbelts in all manner of weather conditions. Being the fish and wildlife type, they spend quite a bit of time on the lake as well and for some reason, irregardless of their maintenance regimen, they are experiencing rust on Generation 4 Glock pistols.

You have three and have had no problem. They have a thousand or so in the field and they have had problems.

By the way, I made no reference to polymer parts corroding.


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I'm really impressed with Eezox for corrosion protection. I carry my LCP in a pocket holster and even with me sweating rust hasn't shown up.


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Originally Posted by CrimsonTide
Being cops, they have their pistols hanging in a holster on gunbelts in all manner of weather conditions. Being the fish and wildlife type, they spend quite a bit of time on the lake as well and for some reason, irregardless of their maintenance regimen, they are experiencing rust on Generation 4 Glock pistols.

You have three and have had no problem. They have a thousand or so in the field and they have had problems.

By the way, I made no reference to polymer parts corroding.


Since there are 120 counties in Kentucky, and one "possum cop" per county, and perhaps a couple of water patrol officers for the lakes, how can KDFWR have 1000 Gen IV Glocks afield?

Also, no such word as "irregardless".

By the way, I am a former KDFWR biologist.

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Originally Posted by KyWindageII
Originally Posted by CrimsonTide
Being cops, they have their pistols hanging in a holster on gunbelts in all manner of weather conditions. Being the fish and wildlife type, they spend quite a bit of time on the lake as well and for some reason, irregardless of their maintenance regimen, they are experiencing rust on Generation 4 Glock pistols.

You have three and have had no problem. They have a thousand or so in the field and they have had problems.



By the way, I made no reference to polymer parts corroding.


Since there are 120 counties in Kentucky, and one "possum cop" per county, and perhaps a couple of water patrol officers for the lakes, how can KDFWR have 1000 Gen IV Glocks afield?

Also, no such word as "irregardless".

By the way, I am a former KDFWR biologist.


I made the mistake of figuring your numbers on KSP numbers. If I were overly generous, I'll beg your pardon. That being the case, the chances of getting a Glock that will rust is even greater, since the KDFWR sample is remarkably smaller than I originally and mistakenly posted.

Also, to say that there is no such word as Irregardless is not quite true. Several online dictionaries have the word listed as "not standard" and probably a blend of regardless and irrespective.

While I would probably not have gone out on a limb to use that word in a doctorate thesis, I figured it would float here around the campfire.


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Originally Posted by 6mm250
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You have to remember that a Leo puts on his weapon 5 to 7 days a week and wears it in all types of weather, a lot are not gunnies, so yea that they sometimes have rust problems. There is a small town near me named Bunn the chief of police was in the local hang out and you could see his S/W 10 and I would bet hat it would not fire or turn to the next chamber.


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Yep, I concur, especially the ones chambered in 10mm.


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There are some fine, well informed comments here.

I recently bought a Glock .40 S&W on the Fire. I believe that I may buy a .357 Sig barrel for it to extend its options. Neat cartridge.


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Never been a fan of a bottleneck pistol round anyway...
creates a problem that didn't exist..


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Did Glock change their finish, being there is a rust issue. I recall my gen 1 model 20 and model 21, and gen 2 model 23 had a copper like colored grease/lube on some parts.

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Glock has stopped using tenifer. I don't know what kind of treatment they are using these days, but it isn't as resistant to rust as tenifer.

By the way, I'm guessing you already knew it, but the black finish on a Glock slide is not Tenifer. Tenifer was actually under the black finish.

The copper lube that Glock holds so dear is still in use.


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When did they stop using Tenifer.

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Originally Posted by CrimsonTide
Glock has stopped using tenifer. I don't know what kind of treatment they are using these days, but it isn't as resistant to rust as tenifer.

By the way, I'm guessing you already knew it, but the black finish on a Glock slide is not Tenifer. Tenifer was actually under the black finish.

The copper lube that Glock holds so dear is still in use.
I guess I'll stick with my gen 3's I've had for several years. I was considering selling them and buying myself a set of gen 4's.


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Originally Posted by ratsmacker
The possum cops here in Kentucky switched from the M&P to the Glocks in .40 a couple of years ago. I overheard a couple of them talking at a shooting range one day, and they were fussing about the M&Ps breakage problems.
They never said WHAT parts were breaking, but that it was a problem they had from the git-go.


Welcome to "every LE agency/department USA."


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When did they stop using Tenifer.


I haven't talked to anyone who could get a straight answer from Glock on that. My Armorer certification has expired, so I haven't had a chance to find out for myself.

I'd say anything with USA stamped on the slide has very little chance of having Tenifer. Those I would definitely stay away from.

4th Generation guns are suspect in my opinion, regardless of the country on the slide.



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Originally Posted by garyh9900
Originally Posted by CrimsonTide
Glock has stopped using tenifer. I don't know what kind of treatment they are using these days, but it isn't as resistant to rust as tenifer.

By the way, I'm guessing you already knew it, but the black finish on a Glock slide is not Tenifer. Tenifer was actually under the black finish.

The copper lube that Glock holds so dear is still in use.
I guess I'll stick with my gen 3's I've had for several years. I was considering selling them and buying myself a set of gen 4's.


If I had a set of Gen 3 guns that were working for me, I'd keep them over the Gen 4's.


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We just switched to G 31 357 sigs about two months ago. Ive probably shot mine more than anyone else. Ive put probably 2,000 rounds through mine with no problems so far. As far as the " cops dont clean their own gun comment". That ahows just how much of a turd eating retard you are. One of the FIRST things we wree taught during the firearms block of the academy was proper, frequent and routine firearms maintenence. Mine gets cleaned once a week whether it needs it or not. Duty ammo gets replaced about every 6 weeks and magazines get taken apart and cleaned at the same intervals. The only complaint I have had is that the TFO sights we switched to. Havent held up. I lost the tritium bar from mu front sight during a range session. So I spent my own money and bought some trijicons. Problem solved.


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