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Wow, never thought I would be agreeing with Barak

Just as an adjunct to the conversation, I live in a townhouse complex now and am the president of the evil Nazi HOA, so I have to really mind my P's and Q's when it comes to my dog. He has learned to do his business only on one small strip of lawn adjoining my unit. In fact, it's kind of funny to see him come running from down the block just to barely make it to his toilet area in time. He's that well trained.

However, a neighbor lady two doors down has a beautiful flower garden which is in full bloom now and is simply irresistable. So at night I like to go over there and take a big dump amongst her flowers. I just love the way the peonies tickle my butt...

Try wiping with a marigold... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Might be fun, but that's what her cat is for... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Has anyone sent you a flower scented gift box lately? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> You might have fun collecting the association doos this year. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Maybe just me... but I don't think bringing your dog's poop back to your driveway is particularly chick****. They wanted to tell you that they didn't appreciate your dog's "gifts".... Message has been received. Why does it matter who it is? I don't see why you think that someone owes you a knock on the door to talk about it. Why is it up to them to show that courtesy when you're not being very courteous yourself (dog-wise)??

As others have said, often (usually) a neighbor that lets their dog run free won't be contrite/apologetic if they get a knock on the door anyway, so why bother?? They probably didn't want a big confrontation... just want you to keep your dog to yourself.

BTW, I suspect that the rake thing wasn't really about the rake... it was probably about the dog too. Also, moving to the country doesn't necessarily make things better. I know folks who live on acreages who've had problems with the neighbors dogs coming over to their property and harrassing their own dog or their kids. Sometimes has ended in a dead dog & long feud.

I'm a dog owner now, but most of my life wasn't. Some life long dog owners think nothing of the odd errant peice of sh**... but I still think letting the dog out of the yard to do it's business is extraordinarily rude. Dealing with the crap is part of your job as the pet owner. That means it doen't end up on someone else's yard, or left in a park for some kid to step in.

Even if it wasn't them that brought the poop back, I bet other neighbors would be glad if you walked on a leash or kept your dog in a fenced yard etc.... So why be so upset at the person who delivered the message to you? I don't see how you've been wronged.

anyway, that's my $.02

280,

HOA's are Nazi's!! I am planning on moving into a house shortly, and I am trying to find a Subdivision that has no HOA.

Neighbors are also an issue. I can't stand my current ones. There is more than one way to get peoples attention and get them to act differently.
I must say before I start, you did do a few things wrong. On the other hand a rack is no reason for a fine or even a fight. I think both parties are big sissy's and need to move on.
Before you do, here's what you do. Every morning and every evening. Get a bench or table, and put it out in the drive way where people can see it. Next, take out you cleaning kits and everything you need to clean a gun. Then after that, get a gun you need to clean or want to clean. Pull up a chair or just stand there and clean your gun(s) as people walking their dogs pass by. In a friendly tone as they pass say hi or ask how they are doing. Also talk positive about their dog or ask questions about it. Do this for a few days or until you get tired of cleaning your guns or run out of guns to clean.
Doing this outside may be against your HOA CC&R's, you may even get another letter. But the fact is people will see you as a nice person who likes his neighbors and is a dog person and most importantly friendly. They will also see you own gun(s) and you like to keep them clean. Get the picture yet?
You can also go out fishing and catch some fish, invite the people next door and across the street to a fish fry. Bring up how you like the outdoors and also that you have had some issues with people doing stuff in your driveway. Explain that you understand your wrongs and that you feel bad that things like this are happening. But also at the same time you don't agree with it and would like it to stop.
Eventually it will get around your neighborhood and all will be will.

I may take a lot of flack for this post, but it is a good way to stay positive and get results. being friendly and talkitive makes people think and people seeing you clean your gun makes them think too. Don't clean your gun outside though if you are not going to be friendly and talkitive. That would seem as a threat and thats what you don't want. You want positivity and a friendly repport.

Guys forgive me if I seem childish and crazy.

Enrique

True, there's no law governing the way they have to behave, but dumping poop anonymously on a neighbor's driveway is textbook classic passive-aggressive behavior.

Just get some Romper Stompers and call it good........

Ahhhh yeah....I love livin' in the woods....... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

It seems obvious to me that the driveway deposit was the response to a bigger problem. I refer to your descriptions of your neighbors; you seem mad at the world, or at least anyone that looks at you wrong.The rake was the first sign. It appears that someone siezed the first opportunity to tell you something, be it anonymous and CS in nature. Also, being an attorney, you should be no stranger to HOA rules. I was handed one when I was starting the process of buying my last 3 houses. Animals running free is usually near the top.
I have dealt with neighbors who see no problem with their dogs crapping in my yard. I beg to differ. Not much pisses me off more than that around my home. My main culprit,as it turns out, was letting it happen at night. I know because I caught him. Scared the hell out of him. No apologies or concern on his part, other than the fact that he got busted.
You know what the problem is, and if you don't buy into what being a good neighbor is about then you better move to where you don't have any. I suspect that is where you belong.

My Uncle (who has lived on the farm all his life) said it well. The first thing that anyone who moves from the city to an acreage does is drag three rusty broken down cars onto their front yard and let their four dogs loose.

As a sheep farmer he has very little tolerence for neighbour dogs in his pens. More then a couple have met their demise by trespassing.

Be aware that moving to the country may not necessarily resolve the issue of you letting your dogs roam.


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Some dog owners really have no respect for others people's property. My wife's caught a few neighborhood women allowing their dog to take a dump on our front yard. She tells them to pick it up and take it with them. Their excuse, "well you have two dogs also". Then the boss explains to em that our dogs aren't allowed to sh&t in the front yard either. If they don't have their own bag the boss lady provides them with one to carry their fertilizer home with them. You wouldn't believe some of their attitudes. Best one is when she tells them about the dog we had with parvo. Funny to watch them hightail it over to the other side of the road when they get near our yard <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Sorry but if you let your dog crap in my yard because you were not watching him and it kept happening then doggie would get a weenie with something bad in it. I take my yard very seriously and spend a lot of money and time keeping it like a fairway. Someone like you living next to me would not be an issue as we would have become friends and you would know to keep the pooch out of the yard. Just be considerate and hopefully, the people who are blowing you in to the HOA will cease and desist or is there something else we are not aware of?

Hey 280, I have thrown dog s__t back into my neighbors yard many times after he let his dog out to run for just a little while. I have also barked down on people who let their dogs do there duty in my yard. Like I tell them, I already have a dog that does that for me, I don't need yours to do it. Control your pet. Period. Steve

When we see dogs running on the ranch they are shot no questions asked period. Many a good dog had met his or her demise that way including some high dollar Walkers but when we see them running wildlife and you should see what they will do--dogs kill to kill not just to eat. People who let dogs run off of their land take the dogs life in their hands. Last year was a good year and I did not have to shoot any but if people would just pay attention to their animals then a lot of problems could be avoided.

Agreed.


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Motion sensing game camera figure out who is dumping on your driveway.
You said you are going to move soon? Save the deposits that are left on the driveway, the last thing you do when you move return them with the pictures.

You should see my neighborhood! As soon as the sun goes down people start letting their dogs out to do their "business". Man does this piss me off. My next door neigbor has two dogs chained up in his driveway. They bark constantly when they are tied there. The piles of dog feces that are allowed to accumulate is incredible. They(humans) don't care a bit about it.

Right now I've decided to take some photos of their driveway in case I have to pursue legal recourse. My property is about 3 feet from this stinking sewer. The dogs literally foam at the mouth, tearing at their chains, whenever one of us goes to get into one of our cars parked in our driveway. I have two small kids and am about to call the cops on them.

Any dog that is free roaming and comes into my yard at night to make a "deposit" has a good chance of getting hot pepper sprayed. They usually choose some one else's yard after that.

Moving to the country is no guarantee of being free of neighbor problems. About a year ago, I got a visit from the sheriffs department telling me that one of my neighbors had called to complain about gunfire coming from my property. The officer clarified that there were no ordinances against gunfire out in the country where we live, but stated that he was just here to express a concern of one of my neighbors.

Despite my best efforts at interrogate him to find out which neighbor it was that had called... he wasn't willing to give up the name. Word circulated quickly that I was unhappy that someone had called the law and the neighbors that lived close enough to potentially be bothered by gunfire went out of their way to let me know that it hadn't been them who had called. I began to assume that it was a man who built a vacation log cabin on a ridge top perhaps a half-mile away from my house. I then began to consider the purchase of a propane cannon to protect my fruit trees. I was thinking about how I only expected to have pests to repel during the hours that my closest neighbors were away at work, and only on the days when the gate was down leading up to the part-time home of the guy I suspected of calling the cops.

Fortunately, I cooled off enough to go knock on this guy's door before investing in my canon. He acknowledged that he had noticed I had been firing some "pretty big stuff" recently, but adamantly denied that he called the cops. I expanded my search after this and went to introduce myself to a couple who had recently put in a modular home beyond where I thought someone would be close enough to be bothered. They turned out to be an older couple who had health problems and a very high strung small dog, whom they were very attached to. They never openly acknowledged that it had been them who called the cops, but did state that gunfire always made their dog nervous. The man added that he had a pistol that he needed to get out and shoot some and observed that the dog was probably going to need to learn to adjust to the sounds of gunfire now that they were living in the country.

I gave them my unlisted phone number and told them to call me if they needed to get in touch with me for any reason. Apparently we've reached a truce...

Several months after that, a member of a wildlife club I belong to told of how he had a similar visit from the sheriffs Department. On this occasion, he was told that despite the fact that he lived out in the country where there are no noise ordinances, they were required to respond to every shots being fired complaint that they received. This guy reports that the cops told him that if they had to make repeated visits to his property to investigate such reports... he would be billed for the cost of sending someone out to investigate. Does anyone know if that is true?