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Nope, Gimme your condensed version of why I should.

They tell you how fast the bullet is going.



Travis

Among other things...

R.

Well, that is condensed....

The paper tells me where they hit, So many choices.

Really?...anger issues should be taken up elsewhere. I'd like to help you, but you know -- you have to recognize you gave a problem first.

That's no choice at all. You saved $100.00!



Travis

That's why I have him on ignore. He is a cyber-bully.




Travis

I just don't feel like you're taking this topic very seriously.

No MILF's on a Friday!


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Just this topic?


R.

Good talk..Now lets get this back on track..

GFY

Done!

David

Someone here will still want to use a ladder to test it...

Kiss, Find pressure and Rock On, has this wrapped up.

R.

Her head is shaped like an hourglass, and she has an outtie.

mathman

Plus her handles are bigger than her tits.

GFY

Oh,
for a minute I thought this was the NBTE




GWB

Im' lucky, my personal range is about as flat as you can get, surveyed to about 6 feet difference from berm to 600 yards.

And I am and protected from our normal summer winds by a thick brush line blocking most of that effect..

I actually don't really worry so much, never minding the other nuts on this thread, but I don't stop after 10 shots generally... I have occasionally... but I often chasing accurate loads shoot 3 shot groups of every one in the node and one out each way to boot.

I've read on shooting ladders using 2 or 3 shots each... and its still giving the same result as shooting a bunch of 3 shot groups and overlaying all the targets.

But normally it takes a fair amount of shooting to verify where the best center is and if it will continue to perform. BUT it gives me a good odds at where to start. Better than blindly shooting groups.

Wind driven vertical will show up if its there.

But then in the end, I generally am not using a chrono much at all after the first ladder. Only after I"ve decided by paper results and a few more groups so to speak, will I drag the chrono out to verify a 10 shot group or two, just to see what the ES/SD is.

I have often shot after the first ladder, at night, where I have not much at all to deal with.

What someone has not mentioned either, how much horizontal effect mirage can have on trying to shoot a group or a ladder. Many think its only wind that affects drift of bullets. But mirage can be a bear too. And it can increase, decrease and totally go away. And come back. Everything you see when it changes means a change to impact.

I will NOT correct for wind if I see it in a ladder as I shoot. I'll just deal with what the paper tells me after the fact. Noting that it could affect the impacts.

I think thats what can show sometimes that one shot, close to being in the node by powder charge, but is not in the node really, really out, but the next shot is back in.... that one I kind of discount, but will shoot again to verify.

I have rarely ever shot a ladder again. Only if I had no choice and shot the first in crappy conditions and it doesn't show anything I believe to be true.

Assuming you have some rounds with increasing charges, grouping together, thats where you start shooting 2-5 shot groups with everything in that node.. and as I've noted I generally shoot one each side to prove that that is the start and end of the node. Heck the one on each side might even group fine, but probably will still be H/V out of the group one way or another as to location vs aiming point.

If you have days where a proven load sucks, IMHO thats either you or you not knowing whats going on with conditions.

How many factors can affect where the next bullet hits? A LOT. A lot more than most folks think. Its just not wind. Or temps.

1000' is not much further than 300 yards. Really only about 100 feet further... LOL