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My wife got me the DNA kit for Christmas last year, I kept forgetting about it. This thread reminded me and it'll be in the mail tomorrow. Interesting stuff for sure. I know I had a great grandfather come over from Wales, I have his identification allowing him to travel into and out of Alaska waaaaay back when. I have no idea about the rest of my family except family lore. But I put no stock in my family lore (excepting personal histories and achievements) or anyone elses. "My family came over on the Mayflower" or "I'm descended from Julius Caesar" just make me laugh. possible? Yes. But that assumes there were no illegitimate births, or adoptions, or various critters in the woodpile.


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
I'm only a couple generations removed from some that spoke Pennsylvania Dutch. All I know is that it was a corruption of German. I presume it'd be similar to the Hutterites and Mennonites in that it'd be a dialect of Low German, but I could be in error and actually be a corruption of High German.


Pennsylvania Dutch is descended from Palatine German which is the dialect spoken in the southwest of Germany around Heidelberg and Mannheim. It's a type of High German. I believe some Mennonites speak a different dialect that's a version of low German.

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Good to know, thanks! FWIW I do know that the Hutterites and Mennonites speak a dialect of Low German that nobody else can speak. Of course there are different kinds of Mennonites too. wink


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I've spent a little time with Hutterites, and with my meager German, and if I can get them to slow down, I can understand it, for the most part.

As far as I know, I'm Dutch on my father's side to 1611, and then probably French/Basque.

Thing is, I just can't find the motivation to care a whit what some 7th generation grand father did for a living.


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There's a large Amish community around Marion, Ky. We used to stop in and shop some at a Amish general store there. They often spoke between each other in a what sounded to me like a German dialect.

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Originally Posted by jbmi
Many years ago National Geographic did the DNA thing. Sent for the kit and got a nice report back. Very general as to what group I was with when we left Africa and how we wondered around till we settled in Europe (Germany)
One of my cousins who was a College Prof did a search where he even went to Germany to check records, graveyards and government doc's.
He went all the way back into the 16th Century with names, dates and occupations. A few doctors in there, one was even the doctor to the king and queen of some state back in the 1600's
I'm only a 2nd gen. American, both grandparents came over from Germany around the turn of the century, according to my cousin we still have a lot of family in the old country.
70 years ago we had family shooting at family during WWII

My wifes family were shooting at each other in the Civil War. the family basically split with some going to Indiana and some going to Missouri. One tale is a Northern cousin looking out for a wounded southern cousin POW. Another tale is a father and son from Indiana surviving Andersonville. There is so much to try and track down.


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Originally Posted by smarquez
Originally Posted by jbmi
Many years ago National Geographic did the DNA thing. Sent for the kit and got a nice report back. Very general as to what group I was with when we left Africa and how we wondered around till we settled in Europe (Germany)
One of my cousins who was a College Prof did a search where he even went to Germany to check records, graveyards and government doc's.
He went all the way back into the 16th Century with names, dates and occupations. A few doctors in there, one was even the doctor to the king and queen of some state back in the 1600's
I'm only a 2nd gen. American, both grandparents came over from Germany around the turn of the century, according to my cousin we still have a lot of family in the old country.
70 years ago we had family shooting at family during WWII

My wifes family were shooting at each other in the Civil War. the family basically split with some going to Indiana and some going to Missouri. One tale is a Northern cousin looking out for a wounded southern cousin POW. Another tale is a father and son from Indiana surviving Andersonville. There is so much to try and track down.


It would still be fun if time allows. I don't know about you, but I'm very grateful for all the branches on my family tree. I've heard about family trees that are lacking branches in some parts... eek

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Originally Posted by isaac
Very cool. My grandmother once shared with me that her own mom's mother(my great,great grandmother, I suppose)stated that John Wilkes Booth was some limb on our tree. Never bothered to verify.

Your thread just might be the motivation for me to give it a go.


Any familiar surnames in this list?

This is the family line of John Wilkes Booth

1 Junius Brutus Booth I b: 01 May 1796 in St Pancras, London, England d: 30 Nov 1852 in Baltimore, Baltimore, Maryland
+Marie Christine Adelaide Delannoy b: 1790 in Brussels, Belgium d: 09 Mar 1858 in Baltimore, Baltimore, Maryland
2 Amelia Booth b: 05 Oct 1815 in London, England d: 1816 in London, England
2 Richard Junius Booth b: 21 Jan 1819 in London, England d: 16 Dec 1868 in London, London, England
+Sarah Pearson Ware b: 1820 in England d: 14 Nov 1868 in London, London, England
3 Alphosia Booth b: 1840 in Baltimore, Maryland d: in England
3 Amele Booth b: 1842 in Baltimore, Maryland d: in England
3 Delvith Booth b: 1846 in Baltimore, Maryland d: in England
3 John Booth b: 1850 in Baltimore, Maryland d: in England
*2nd Wife of Junius Brutus Booth I:
+Mary Ann Holmes b: 29 Aug 1802 in Lambeth, London, England d: 22 Oct 1885 in Boston, Sufflok, Massachusetts
2 Junius Brutus Booth II b: 22 Dec 1821 in Charleston, South Carolina d: 16 Sep 1883 in Manchester, Essex County, Massachusetts
+Harriet Mace b: Abt. 1820 in New York, New York d: 28 Aug 1859 in San Francisco, California
3 Infant Booth b: Abt. 1852 in San Francisco, California d: Abt. 1852 in San Francisco, California
3 Marie Edwin Rosalle Booth b: Abt. 1852 in San Francisco, California d: 10 Mar 1932 in New York, New York
+Byron F Douglass b: 29 Mar 1869 in Cumberland County, Maine d: 21 Apr 1935 in New York, New York
4 Daughter Douglass b: Abt. 1883 d: Bef. 1910
4 Ediwn Booth Douglass b: Abt. 1890 in New York, New York d: Bef. 1910
*2nd Wife of Junius Brutus Booth II:
+Clementina DeBar b: Abt. 1808 in London, England d: Aft. 1870 in United States
3 Blanche DeBar Booth b: Apr 1844 in Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania d: 14 Apr 1930 in Amityville, Long Isalnd, New York
+George Washington Riddell b: 1840 in Pennsylvania d: Jan 1901 in Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minnesota
*3rd Wife of Junius Brutus Booth II:
+Marion Agnes Land Rookes b: 04 Oct 1843 in Sydney, Australia d: 02 Jan 1910 in Brookline, Norfolk County, Massachusetts
3 Junius Brutus Booth III b: 06 Jan 1868 in Boston, Sufflok, Massachusetts d: 06 Dec 1912 in Brightlingsea, Essex, England
+Florence Elizabeth Marie Edviga Noah b: May 1859 in England d: 06 Dec 1912 in Brightlingsea, Essex, England
3 Algernon Booth b: 28 Jul 1869 in Boston, Sufflok, Massachusetts d: 1877 in Boston, Sufflok, Massachusetts
3 Sydney Barton Booth b: 29 Jan 1873 in Boston, Sufflok, Massachusetts d: 05 Feb 1937 in Stamford, Fairfield County, Connecticut
+Elizabeth P Snyder b: 1875 in District of Columbia
4 Elizabeth Barton Booth b: 09 Mar 1905 in New York, New York
3 Barton J Booth b: 29 Aug 1875 in Boston, Sufflok, Massachusetts d: Jul 1880 in Manchester, Essex County, Massachusetts
2 Rosalie Ann Booth b: 05 Jul 1823 in Bel Air, Harford, Maryland d: 15 Jan 1889 in New Jersey
2 Henry Byron Booth b: 1825 in Bel Air, Harford, Maryland d: 28 Dec 1836 in London, England
2 Mary Ann Booth b: 1827 in Bel Air, Harford, Maryland d: Feb 1833 in Bel Air, Harford, Maryland
2 Frederick Booth b: 1830 in Bel Air, Harford, Maryland d: Feb 1833 in Bel Air, Harford, Maryland
2 Elizabeth Booth b: 1832 in Bel Air, Harford, Maryland d: Feb 1833 in Bel Air, Harford, Maryland
2 Edwin Thomas Booth b: 13 Nov 1833 in Bel Air, Harford, Maryland d: 07 Jun 1893 in New York, New York
+Mary Frances McVicker b: Sep 1848 in New York d: 13 Nov 1881 in New York
3 Edgar Booth b: 04 Jul 1870 in New York d: 04 Jul 1870 in New York
*2nd Wife of Edwin Thomas Booth:
+Mary Devlin b: 19 May 1840 in Troy, New York d: 21 Feb 1863 in Boston, Sufflok, Massachusetts
3 Edwina Booth b: 09 Dec 1861 in Fulham, England d: 25 Dec 1938 in New York, New York
+Ignatius R Grossman b: 06 Jun 1852 in Kasson, Hungary d: in New York, New York
4 Mildred Booth Grossman b: 24 Mar 1886 in Boston, Sufflok, Massachusetts d: 22 Nov 1960 in Los Angeles, California
+Cleveland Livingston Waterbury b: 20 Feb 1886 in New York City, New York d: 16 Aug 1937 in Tyler, Smith County, Texas
5 Edwin Booth Waterbury b: 04 Jan 1917 in New York, New York d: Jul 1974 in Los Angeles, California
+Susanna Keifer Reynolds b: 08 Oct 1912 in Dayton, Montgomery, Ohio d: 01 Jun 1987 in Los Angeles, California
5 Edwina Booth Waterbury b: 07 Nov 1918 in New York, New York d: 10 Dec 1985 in Woodland Hills, Los Angeles,
California
+Richard H Cutting
*2nd Husband of Mildred Booth Grossman:
+Arthur Colburn Tilton b: 31 Dec 1887 in Norwood, Norfolk, Massachusetts d: 04 Jul 1953 in Los Angeles, California
4 Edwin Booth Grossman b: 09 Apr 1887 in Boston, Sufflok, Massachusetts d: 1957
+Helen Lamar Foos b: 14 Aug 1890 in New York d: Jun 1981 in Larchmont, Westchester, New York
5 Lois L Grossman b: 1912 in New York
2 Asia Sydney Booth b: 20 Nov 1835 in Bel Air, Harford, Maryland d: 16 May 1888 in Bournemouth, England
+John Sleeper Clarke b: 03 Sep 1833 in Baltimore, Maryland d: 25 Sep 1899 in Middlesex, Surrey, United Kingdom
3 Asia Agnes Dorothy Clarke b: Mar 1860 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania d: Dec 1918 in London, Middlesex, England
+Rhys Daniel Morgan b: Abt. 1855 in Wales
4 Ethel May Morgan b: Abt. 1885 in United Kingdom
*2nd Husband of Asia Agnes Dorothy Clarke:
+Neil Augustus Richard Leitch b: Sep 1860 in Kent, England d: 28 Apr 1937 in Perth, Scotland
3 Edwin T Clarke b: 1861 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania d: 10 Dec 1881 in England
3 Lillian Theresa Clarke b: Abt. 1862 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania d: 1866
3 Adrienne Clarke b: 23 May 1863 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania d: Aft. 1920
3 Creston Clarke b: 20 Aug 1865 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania d: 21 Mar 1910 in Charleston, North Carolina
+Adelaide Rubenstein b: 13 Dec 1866 in London, England d: 04 Apr 1941 in Shawnee-on-Delaware, Pennsylvania
4 Harry Prince b: 31 Aug 1889 in Galveston, Galveston County, Texas d: 18 Jun 1978 in Santa Monica, Los Angeles County,
California
+Nora Bayes b: 03 Oct 1880 in Joliet, Illinois d: 1928 in New York
*2nd Wife of Harry Prince:
+Mildred M Clork b: 21 Jul 1901 in Texas d: 25 Oct 1966 in Los Angeles County, California
4 Ethel A Prince b: 16 Apr 1887 in Galveston, Galveston County, Texas d: 12 Apr 1971 in Palm Beach County, Florida
+Bernard Fairfax b: 29 Mar 1879 in Willesden, London, England d: Oct 1963 in Palm Beach County, Florida

5 Lynn Fairfax b: 28 Feb 1926 in New York d: Aft. 1934
3 Wilfred Booth Clarke b: 20 Aug 1865 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania d: 1930 in Manhattan, New York, New York
+Victory Bateman b: 06 Apr 1865 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania d: 02 Mar 1926 in Los Angeles, California
*2nd Wife of Wilfred Booth Clarke:
+Grace Menken b: 1899 in New York
3 Ivan Clarke b: Dec 1869 in London, Middlesex, United Kingdom d: Dec 1869 in London, Middlesex, United Kingdom
2 John Wilkes Booth b: 10 May 1838 in Bel Air, Harford, Maryland d: 26 Apr 1865 in Caroline County, Virginia
2 Joseph Adrian Booth b: 06 Feb 1840 in Bel Air, Harford, Maryland d: 26 Feb 1902 in New York, New York
+Cora Estelle Mitchell b: 21 Oct 1870 in Chowan County, North Carolina d: 04 Mar 1936
3 Edwin Booth b: 1894 d: 1895

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
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As previously noted, the DNA will not tell you who any ancestors are, just what nationalities you have in your genes. I was surprised to find that, despite an English surname had more Italian blood, than English (from the Romans being there a few (1000s of ) years back. Was mostly Irish, and German, etc. Tracking down ancestors per se is a lot of time consuming work, and took about 20 years. Some of my ancestors recent, on my mother's side, came over about the time of the Civil War, and one was in it. But the family name group came here about 1700, to Chestertown Md area, and have that documented. Big problem being the lack of records. Doesn't matter what a 7th gr grandfather did as work, it's that they and everyone else in your background is what make YOU you. Anyway, the DNA will not reviel who your relatives are.


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Originally Posted by ghost
Anyway, the DNA will not reviel who your relatives are.


Your DNA that you submit to ancestry.com is placed in a data base and it will be compared with others that have been sent in.

If any of your relatives have submitted their DNA, their user names will be made available to you as will their relationship to you within certain constraints.

I know who this person is who showed up on my page. It is the son of my first cousin.

Here's how ancestry.com described the DNA match with this person.

Predicted Relationship Info: 2nd Cousins
Our analysis of your DNA predicts that this person you match with is probably your second cousin.
The exact relationship can vary. It could be a first cousin once removed, or a great-great aunt.
While there may be some statistical variation in our prediction, it's likely to be a second cousin type relationship � which are separated by 6 degrees or six people.

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Originally Posted by isaac
Very cool. My grandmother once shared with me that her own mom's mother(my great,great grandmother, I suppose)stated that John Wilkes Booth was some limb on our tree. Never bothered to verify.

Your thread just might be the motivation for me to give it a go.


Bob, my Dad told me the same thing several years ago. Ironically, my wife claims to be related to Abraham Lincoln. shocked


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my wife claims to be related to Jesse James.....shoulda told me something........


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I gave one of these kits to my wife for Xmas. We will see what (who) shakes out of the tree................Thanks Bristoe.

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Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho
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Two of my great-grandparents were orphans, so it would be interesting to see what the quarter of me that we know nothing of is.

I was given up for adoption at birth and have no info at all about my birth mother and father. I'm most likely mostly Caucasian but other than that ???.

Just ordered the kit, it'll be interesting to see what kind of genetic soup led up to my popping out into the world.



I was also adopted shortly after birth. I had a half sister who dug into this and found me and our mother. We all have a great relationship now. Most of my mother's family all came from MO and not sure who my father is. She told me one guy and when I wrote to him, he denied it! Maybe he thought I was a gold digger. Might have to try this DNA thing!


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