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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
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AS,

You posted:

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In addition, if we look at the out comes of various indicators of well being, it again becomes obvious that all religions are not created equal. Although it is Atheist and other Non's that score the highest on these scales, they are followed in order by Jews, Christians, Buddhist, Hindu's, Muslims, and at the bottom are primitive folks religions."


Do you have a reference for this?

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TF, I posted an econometric model for the affects of the religions of a countries inhabitants on the per capita GDP. As I recall, it created much whining and gnashing of teeth.



OK, I understand that.

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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
It's called Textual Criticism. Modern Textual Critics say half the stuff attributed to Paul was actually forged by others, and not written by Paul. It's a pretty interesting field of study.


That's silliness. No current textual critic that approaches the text from the direction they would approach any other ancient text thinks that half of Paul's writings are spurious.

You need to stay up-to-date with your criticisms, as you keep re-hashing modernistic presuppositions that have largely been rejected by current scholarship.

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He prefers a myth to the facts. Sad.


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Originally Posted by curdog4570



It's sort of like speaking in tongues with no translation. Even Ol' Paul thought that was useless.


We can talk a little on this subject when I feel better. Vertigo and back spasms all week have been making my concentration a little lean.


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It's sort of like speaking in tongues with no translation. Even Ol' Paul thought that was useless.


Based on some of your other posts about the Bible, how do you know what ol' Paul meant?


I think Paul was quite clear on that subject.


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Originally Posted by NH K9
Lord save me from some of your followers.......


AMEN


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Originally Posted by NH K9
Lord save me from some of your followers.......

I can certainly understand that sentiment.

Bein' one of His followers is not about how much we know. It's about how much we obey His teachings. Bein' one of His followers isn't just about having more knowledge...it's about having more fruit. If we love Jesus, we're gonna do what He says. Many 'Christians' in our culture today are educated way beyond their level of obedience to His teachings. Most of us don't need to know more...we need to apply what we already know.


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It's sort of like speaking in tongues with no translation. Even Ol' Paul thought that was useless.


Based on some of your other posts about the Bible, how do you know what ol' Paul meant?


I think Paul was quite clear on that subject.


I agree completely. In fact almost everything in the Bible is so clear even a child will not misunderstand It. Jesus even said, "Accept you become like a child you will not enter the Kingdom of God."


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Originally Posted by Ringman
krp,

First I am not a Bible scholar. I am a Bible student. The idea they received the Holy Spirit was not lost on me. I did a study of the Old and New Testament on the subject of the Holy Spirit. If you check it out you will see King Saul was filled with the Holy Spirit and prophesied. And he turned out to be the enemy of God.

God can not be put in a box.


Scholar/student/study/learn... I'm glad you cleared that up...

And thanks for confirming water baptism is public affirmation, not salvation.

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Originally Posted by Ringman


Do you believe Jesus' Words about the Holy Spirit guiding us into Truth applies to His believers or was He limiting it to those at the table? If you believe He was including us readers, you might asked to be filled with the Holy Spirit. I have seen some folks' eyes of their hearts really open up after requesting.


Is the Holy Spirit limited to believers or does he work in nonbelievers to bring them the truth?

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And thanks for confirming water baptism is public affirmation, not salvation.


Where did you get that idea? I don't see it as either.


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And that's why few take you seriously...

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Originally Posted by krp


Is the Holy Spirit limited to believers or does he work in nonbelievers to bring them the truth?

Kent


Both. If you'd like something interesting to study and ponder, think on what men were like before the Holy Spirit was freely given beginning at pentecost.

“‘In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
18 Even on my servants, both men and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days,
and they will prophesy...

before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord.
21 And everyone who calls
on the name of the Lord will be saved.’

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Was Jesus water baptized for his salvation, or public affirmation?

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Was Jesus water baptized for his salvation, or public affirmation?


You remind me of the last couple verse in Luke 11.

Matthew 3:13-15
"Then Jesus arrived from Galilee at the Jordan coming to John, to be baptized by him. But John tried to prevent Him, saying, 'I have need to be baptized by You, and do You come to me?' But Jesus answering said to him, 'Permit it at this time; for in this way it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.'"


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I remind you or reminded you?

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I remind you or reminded you?


When I made the statement it was in the present tense.


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Originally Posted by curdog4570
"God can not be put in a box."

Nor a book.
The road map to Him can be and is. Some also happen to be capable of reading sign or asking for directions. Others are afraid to make the trip.


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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", you might asked to be filled with the Holy Spirit. I have seen some folks' eyes of their hearts really open up after requesting."

So...... CCCC is NOT filled with the Holy Spirit already?

He sure fooled me when I MET HIM IN PERSON.

And..... since the Bible is written so clearly, why don't you enlighten us on the subject of the necessity of water baptism?


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Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by curdog4570
"God can not be put in a box."

Nor a book.
The road map to Him can be and is. Some also happen to be capable of reading sign or asking for directions. Others are afraid to make the trip.


But it is the sort of map which is useless without a Guide. Good thing He provided one.


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