Great teaching from the ancient book of Judges about the Rainbow Flag diversity culture of liberals. You might learn something new about this inclusive culture that hasn't changed in thousands of years! See them in a new light with an open Bible to Judges 19.

Blessings

But, But, there is only one commandment. Love one another.

Go forth, fornicate with your brother, or with your sister, or with your dog and your goat. Sodomize little girls, or little boys. It matters not.

There is no law. There is no sin. Believe on Jesus and love him, you will be gifted with everlasting life.

So it is written at the Campfire!

Your post is the first and ONLY place I've read your statement. Are you quoting someone, or just mocking God's Word?

Little slow on the uptake there bud...

Most stop short of endorsing incest and beastiality. But we are told over and over again that Jesus did away with all old testament law, including the ten commandments.

Eat a dick, or maybe find a priest to do it for you.

Meh.

Looks like the rainbow bar let out early.

Not an accolyte of the Happy Camper?

Must be a queer!

Jesus fulfilled the law.

He didn't say to disobey His old covenant.
He pointed out that those who impose it wrongfully as a means of salvation from hell better keep ALL of it ALL of their lives, because that's how they will be judged.

OR

Realize that they failed and sinned against Him miserably and take the alternative, which is described in the short videos in the links below.

Bubba often puts out invitations like that.
No hiding in the closet for him

Hey men, neither of you are on track. The “good news” of the Bible is nothing close to what you suppose it to be. Your arguments will never end, because your premises are based on “doctrines” that you have been taught

You have little idea of where my track lies.

Regurgitation of prior teachings from numerous sources does little to indicate one's true beliefs. But in my case, those have been discussed here on prior occasions.

What exactly do you believe I'm off track on?
A. The gospel in the links below in my signature?

OR

B. That Bubba is looking for someone like Judges 19 warns about? He keeps offering lewd invitations and keeps reminding me of the warning some would tell teenagers. They'd say " stay out of trouble or you'll end up in jail with Bubba."

You’re probably the only person in all of campfireland who has me on ignore, but you can’t help but look. I’d ask you to pray for me but I really don’t want help from a prick like you. Eat a dick.

So, Happy Camper, which is it?
Do we keep the TEN commandments? Do we avoid strong spirits? Do we honor the laws of the Levites? Do we refuse to partake of the unclean flesh? Do we no longer need to wash before eating?

Or do we keep the rules we find convenient? Do we keep the rules as men have decided they should be altered in order to increase the size of the congregation and fatten the offering plate?

Or do we recognize the God of Abraham and Moses is the same God we pray to today. Do we know that what He told us 4000 years ago is as valid today as the day it was written, as God is Omnicient and Eternal.

Do we keep the laws as best we can, just as God handed them to us? And then pray Jesus will forgive our unavoidable transgressions?

Or do we just make up a list of rules we would like to keep?

Please enlighten us with the correct premises. Please.

Better get the popcorn, this will probably be good for several pages.

"For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."
James 2:10

Have you ever sinned?

Then as anyone, you are condemned already.

Do you believe that you can be good enough to get to heaven some day?
Jesus told a very religious man,

"He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

He considers you to be condemned already if you think that any one of the things you mentioned so far grants one merit with God. They cannot pay for sin.

So, the solution is in the second link of my signature.
That is not my way. That is what God's Word clearly teaches.

If it's not visible, turn your phone sideways. The sig should appear. Link #2
(It's past my bedtime. We can pick up tomorrow if you want)

Coming from a background of studying Ancient Greek for decades, and having read the New Testament 20+ times in the original Greek (and many sections of it many more times than that); perhaps I might have some insight that those of you do not. Is it possible? If all of you have “arrived” and are enlightened and are secure in your beliefs, then you will not care what I have to offer in my insight, and you will ridicule me as those that heard the Messiah mocked him. Sincerely open to more truth? I will tell you gladly!

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Galatians-Chapter-1/

All of that is an avoidance to the answer of the question I asked.

Are we responsible to honor and obey Gods laws as specified through the ages and then ask forgiveness for our failings?

Or is it okay to simply ignore whatever rules and laws we choose then depend on our love for Jesus to give us a free pass to eternal life?

I mean really, queers, and lesbos, and pederasts, and thieves, and serial killers, and lovers of animals, and even (gasp) socialists can love Jesus and ask for forgiveness.

Will you be sharing Heaven with the likes of them? Will they still be practicing their habits in Heaven?

god bless

PTL

Amen.

That is all.

Hallelujah!

Notice the similarity of that with "HellYeah!" ?

Hell yeah Lulu.

Dear God,

Please allow every State to open churches, so those who desire fellowship, can worship together under the Lords roof.

God, If you don’t want to open all the churches, please, at least, open the one HC attends, so he will stfu.

Amen

🦫

"Hell yeah Lulu."

Hey!

They are an abomination.

I used quotation marks.

BS.

Thanks Happy Camper. Be Well, RZ.

In the words of the Messiah, “ Unless a man forsakes all that he has, he cannot be my disciple”. What have you given up? NOTHING! You love your modern living, so NOTHING. Fake azz pretenders!

Claim to follow Christ, and do not obey what He says? BS. “Sell what u have and give donations to the poor...”. Any of you hypocrites obeyed him? NO

I don’t claim to obey him, but you pretenders that say you know the way to be “saved”, and claim to obey him...ugh! Disturbing!

“Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. Love him with all your mind. This is the first and most important commandment. And the second is like it. Love your neighbor as you love yourself. Everything that is written in the Law and the Prophets is based on these two commandments.” - Jesus

Some people didn’t like the things that Jesus said and did. The Jewish ‘religious’ leaders in particular. So they killed Him. Some people still don’t like the things that Jesus said and did.

Others choose to see it differently. That’s fine with me. Those differences don’t change the reality of Jesus or His resurrection in any way whatsoever.

Again, will you be sharing Heaven with the queers, lesbos, pederasts, animal lovers, serial killers, etc. And will they be practicing their habits in Heaven?

Okay, we can leave the pederasts and the serial killers out. They obviously are not lovers of their neighbors. But the rest of them are hurting no one, except offending some who are sensitive to their lifestyle.

Is it the sensitive types who are failing in the love thy neighbor department?

Oh yes, what about the Socialists?

I believe that anyone who does go to heaven will be sharing space there with other forgiven sinners. Good people don't go to heaven. Forgiven people go to heaven. People who have accepted God’s grace, by faith, and not because of anything else that they have or haven’t done. Sin offends God, but I believe He is more broken-hearted by it than He is put off by it. And I believe that our own sin is harmful to us.Jesus Himself is the one who said it, and He was clearly a pretty tough man.They are sinners, just like you and I, and everybody else are sinners. It’s a big, all-inclusive group, regardless of one’s political leanings.

God’s Old Covenant was an agreement between Him and the nation of Israel. I’m not a Hebrew. I’m a Gentile. God’s New Covenant is an agreement between Him and all of the people in all the world. James (the brother of Jesus), Apostle Peter, Apostle Paul, and the elders of the church in Jerusalem...who were all Jews...clearly decided at the 1st Church Council of Jerusalem that Gentile followers of Jesus did not have to observe the Mosaic Law of the Jews.

The ceremonial aspect of the Old Covenant related specifically to how ancient Israel worshipped God. The civil aspect of the Old Covenant related specifically to daily living in ancient Israel. The moral aspect of the Old Covenant hangs on loving God and loving others. Period. Jesus clearly said so Himself.

I do not believe that Jesus came to extend ancient Judaism, or to establish Judaism 2.0; I believe He came to change the way we relate to God.

Others choose to see it differently. That’s fine with me. Those differences don’t change the reality of Jesus or His resurrection in any way whatsoever.

You and many others have stated that the requirements of salvation are 1: Love Jesus, 2: ask forgiveness of Jesus, 3: Love thy neighbor

The intent of my question is: A preponderance of conservative Christians today hate and condemn all they consider to be immoral.

How can these people possibly consider themself to be Christian when they so obviously do not love their neighbor, unless that neighbor has an identical skin tone, morality, and religious beliefs?

I have always maintained that ”salvation” is obtained by accepting God’s grace, by faith, and not because of anything else that one has or hasn’t done. I stand by that. I also maintain that “following Jesus” boils down to loving God, and demonstrating your love for God by loving others. I stand by that as well. On the night before His Crucifixion, He even stepped it up... He gave us a new commandment...”you are to love one another the way that I have loved you.” This was so core, so central, that He said this, “by this kind of unique love everyone will know that you are my followers, if you love one another.” He said this is how His followers would be recognized.

Here is another one for your repertoire........Matthew 5:27-28 "You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’ But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery with her in his heart".

I'm guessing you have probably never had trouble with that one.

I'm back for a little while and see that you are all interested in the OP topic....Lol. maybe not.

That's ok since there's a more important one that is at hand.

I'm in a hurry, so I'll try to quickly address those on the first page first. However, I don't have time to get back until tonight unfortunately.
So if you want to continue a dialogue with me, you'll know to check back after dark. Just so you know that I'm not ignoring you.....unless you happen to be someone trolling with catfish bait or something. Lol.

Idaho shooter,

I answered that already.
I've been open about my stance on the Scriptures.
More than most in daily interactions.
Why is that? Someone cared enough about my eternal destiny when I was young. I want to pass that blessing forward. None of us are getting younger. Eventually everyone will either be truly blessed beyond their dreams, OR suffer........
Once you listen to the brief video links below in my signature, that will explain pretty thoroughly.
AFTER listening to that, if you have a specific sincere question I'm happy to answer that.

So HC, does God think being a queer is worse than sexual harassment of the young girls in your congregation?
Just wondering.

Did you not watch the videos?

Sheesh!

Bubbajay,

This isn't the first time that you said this to me.

I have prayed for you and have forgiven you, in spite of the unprovoked insults and no apologies. You were marked off of my ignore list for a time.
It's not the way to get a prayer answered.

A man in the Bible trusted Christ as his Savior.
Then messed up with one of the disciples by offering him money for the power of the Holy Spirit.
He was rebuked. The man humbled himself, apologized, and asked that the disciple would pray to God that none of God's judgement would come upon him.

I respect that about the man in the book of Acts.
The example was given for our instruction

Here’s what Messiah said you must DO in order to have eternal life:

Mat 19:16  And behold, a man came up to him, saying, “Teacher, what good deed must I do to have eternal life?”
Mat 19:17  And he said to him, “Why do you ask me about what is good? There is only one who is good. If you would enter life, keep the commandments.”
Mat 19:18  He said to him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness,
Mat 19:19  Honor your father and mother, and, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”
Mat 19:20  The young man said to him, “All these I have kept. What do I still lack?”
Mat 19:21  Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”
Mat 19:22  When the young man heard this he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.
Mat 19:23  And Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly, I say to you, only with difficulty will a rich person enter the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 19:24  Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.”
Mat 19:25  When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished, saying, “Who then can be saved?”
Mat 19:26  But Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”
Mat 19:27  Then Peter said in reply, “See, we have left everything and followed you. What then will we have?”
Mat 19:28  Jesus said to them, “Truly, I say to you, in the new world, when the Son of Man will sit on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Mat 19:29  And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or lands, for my name's sake, will receive a hundredfold and will inherit eternal life.
Mat 19:30  But many who are first will be last, and the last first.

I would be surprised if you didn't know something that I don't know. We all have different backgrounds and training; Strengths and weaknesses.

As for Greek, I doubt if many here speak fluent koine' Greek. You'd have better luck at a Greek Orthodox Monastery Club. They'd probably have conversational Greek down better than James White and his colleagues. I have doubts that you'd find any believers though. Lol.

Here, you'll find some imperfect and perhaps weak believers, but we do know our strong Savior.

Hey HC,

Here is some valuable information, that was life-altering for me:

1.). Almost every time in the NT that you encounter the phrase “believe in” Christ or the Father, the Greek should be properly rendered “be loyal/faithful to”.

2.). Every time your English NT reads “believe on Him/Me/Christ” it should read “rely/depend on”

3.). Faith should be rendered as faithfulness or reliance, depending on the context.

BTW, pastors and many Christians get greatly agitated and defensive when I point these things out to them. They feel threatened and some get angry. Humble people are more receptive than the arrogant it seems

Stop posting long videos without writing a summary of them.

I don't have time to watch an hour and ten minutes of some wack doodle stuff posted by a nut flake who can't write a summary.

Please enlighten us, Ruger.

Thats a lie.

Want to show where you got that false doctrine?

Thou shalt not bear false witness.....

Many are knowledgeable about scripture. Satan is a perfect example.

Many study the scripture not to find GOD but to smite HIM.

I think you overlooked the fact that works wont get one saved.

Please, enjoy ridiculing those who arent free of having broken the Law. Good luck in your endeavor to live as perfect as Jesus, but, in fact, HE came and died for those because only HE could do that, so, you ridicule those who arent Jesus.

Maybe you best study that black book again. It appears it's truths have never sunk in.

Dont watch. Do you read books about Alice in Wonderland or Cinderella when you dont believe them?

Have you no control over whatever force that overcomes you and makes you watch videos of Biblical stories?

What force is driving you to do that, HIM or satan?

How many minutes did you have to watch it before you realized what it was about and were evidently entranced to watch all of it?

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God." (1 Corinthians 6:9-11)

Such WERE some of you. B U T ye are washed -- ye are sanctified -- ye are justified. If you get those sins, whatever they may be, under the atoning blood of Jesus Christ. Washed in the spotless blood of Jesus Christ. Imputed with HIS righteousness, cause mine is a train wreck.

You just proved my point. When Christ says “sell all you have and give to the poor” it is very uncomfortable for modern so-called “Christians”. They get angry, defensive, and hateful at Christ’s words, and they love to ridicule the messenger.

Luk 16:13  No servant can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.”
Luk 16:14  The Pharisees, who were lovers of money, heard all these things, and they ridiculed him. 🤔

I just attempted to; read all my recent posts

“Imputation of righteous” is a fabrication, and a butchery of what Paul actually said in Romans and Galatians. You only become righteous by relying on Christ, and that is a daily, lifelong endeavor. I used to believe just like you for many years until I studied the Greek text in-depth

The god of the bible was taken from the Babylonian pantheon of gods and adapted and evolved to suit the religious and cultural needs of the tribe of Israel.....beginning as a tribal god of war and evolved into the 'one true God.'

Ah, no.

It's basically how it happened based on multiple lines of information on religious belief in the region.

I second the no. There are lots of videos and websites that state this type of thing. People will definitely lead you astray with these kinds of “facts”. Yahweh is the Creator, period. There are many evil spiritual beings (and people) that hate him

It's not hate, just research and history. Nor is it a matter of what is on videos.

Ruger4Life, you seem to be carrying a very large grudge.

Erroneous religious teachings destroy the lives of individuals and families; I’ve seen it.

I would like to offer some advice, if I may. If you truly are concerned about others following the wrong path, I would suggest changing your approach. To be brutally honest, you come across as very arrogant, and seem to think that virtually everyone else in the history of the world is wrong, but only you are enlightened and wise enough to discern the truth. I would dare say that probably NO ONE will EVER be swayed by your arguments, which only serve to create animosity. Again, to be brutally honest, that appears to be your purpose here.

Folks, let us all love/ respect one another.

I like to keep, "It" simple.

Love, but question. Love truth. Love the mystery of existence. To question is not hate.

You too Rusty. 👍

I read that Judges 19 passage over and over and still learned something new when I watched that Bible study. I had no idea it would get the back fur up on so many around here though. Lol.

That's right Jag, that's why I don't.

If you are ignorant of this "pastor's" history of his teenage son's sexting the young women in his flock check it out before you accuse someone of bearing false witness.
How did the "pastor" deal with the sexual harrasment the young women were subject to? He threw their family's out of his congregation.
Pretty Christian huh?

Yes.
I never counted how many times the word Sodom was used before. God must really hate that sin a lot.

Good sermon.

I believe overall a little more compassion in a message is the right approach. Not the watered down sermons afraid to offend that we hear too much of these days. Speak the truth but do it with compassion. On the other hand people are called to deliver the word within the confines of there own personality and that is his.

We all have different strengths and weaknesses. Sometimes the message needs to be delivered by an Apostle John type and sometimes it needs to be delivered by more of a Apostle Peter personality. He isn’t wrong and given the world we live in we could use more a spades a spade type preachers.

To believe that, one would have to believe that God was invented by Man. Oooops.

He takes my sin on himself, and he gives me his righteousness.

"For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth." (Romans 10:3-4) He gives me the indwelling Holy Ghost and never takes him from me. I'm sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise. If you aren't, I'd toss my greek book in the trash can and stick with the old AV1611.

Your choice. It was easy for me. Jesus Christ did all the work for me, and then gave me the free gift of eternal life. I grabbed that gift and never looked back. Help yourself. Your call.

Most people don’t realize the cause for which God put the Rainbow in the sky?

Nature is like a perfectly tuned machine. It work flawlessly without mans interference. Thats because it was by specific design. Read genesis and keep going.


Alan

Three billion years of microbes before multicellular organisms evolved, five major and more than a few 'minor' extinction events later....here we are.

Nothing new. HARDLY ANYONE is ever swayed by my arguments. Yes, the majority of the Christians in the past 2,000 years have been wrong...and? Am I a heretic because I question the status quo? You can pick up the first stone—pick a big one. My Savior was persecuted and murdered for telling the truth. I am a worm compared to him, and I would be extremely blessed to suffer the same fate as he. Again, folks that love their money, wealth, and comfortable lifestyles ridicule the words of Christ because they are deceptive hypocrites, just like the Pharisees that hated Christ. And no, you are not “brutally honest”, only brutally intent on defending your man-made doctrines until your dying breath, just like millions of brainwashed “religious “ people in this world

Typical of that religious fake brand of “Christians”

Amen.
He gets all of the credit.

Jaguar tx is right.



Let some troll accuse YOU or your family of the same and see how you respond. I hope it never happens, but those who are doing much for God are the ones who get smeared by anonymous slanderers. It's a case of defamation.

Context often determines what words mean in Greek and in English. Our believers and unbelievers here would do well to read the chapter or paragraph that a verse is found in order to learn it's meaning.
I prayerfully did this as a teenager when given a tract.
I didn't just want someone's opinion. I wanted to know what God Himself wants to reveal. I believed God would not want to hide such an important topic like Salvation from us. He doesn't want to, nor does He make it hard for us. He helped me to understand those verses in my King James Bible.

You told me your meaning for the word believe.
I know what pistis / pisteuo means. The brilliant translators of the KJV, who were the worlds best scholars, were correct. Anyone can read the gospel of John and benefit knowing that it is completely trustworthy. They can also do word studies without needing to learn a different language and see that God's miraculous hand preserved His Word for our use.

WHY did they insert the word 'easter' in Acts 12:4?????

Listen to Merle.

It ‘might’ be that in that one isolated instance, that those particular translators for that one particular version, wanted that one particular reference to be to a Christian celebration as opposed to a Jewish celebration.

WINNER ^^^^^^

If that happens, I might be convinced there is a God.

Fair question Muffin.

"The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever."
Psalm 12:6,7

God managed to protect His words to mankind from the pagan influences and corruption that mankind has sought for through false religions. Some claim to "correct it", and want to add their own spin, but God pronounces the most severe curses upon those in both the O.T. and completion of the New.

I don't have time to answer details about the history of the Bible or that word right now, as I'm on my way out the door, but I think there's plenty of good information here.

http://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/042014a.mp3

AND this:

https://answersingenesis.org/holidays/easter/is-the-name-easter-of-pagan-origin/

I've noticed that some of the online fringe religious groups have been demonizing God's Word. You have a fair question, but keep in mind that the Devil accused God of unrighteousness from the very start.
He doesn't like the good news posted in my sig.
That's true of even some at the Camp who take a wicked lunatics accusations against a man who shares the good news wherever he goes. They will Not so much speak a word against the leftist with whom they identify, who are traditionally known for deceit. This is why we need to ask questions and seek valid sources as you have. 👍

I hope these will answer your question, Muffin.