My wife wants me to get snipped but I'm scared Schittless of both needles and don't trust the medical profession as a whole..
I tried to to do it last week, but when the needle came out, I put my pants back on and hauled ass out of the office..
That being said, I did some research afterwards and it seems that there is chance of long term pain, early onset ED, etc associated with the procedure..
Anyone have any words of advice or have any complications?
I haven't seen any of that research you mention. I got cut over 30 years ago and had swollen sore nuts for a few weeks but no problems other than that. I didn't even have a prescription for pain medication. I got cut on Friday afternoon and went back to work the following Monday.
Mine was in the 80's. Almost no pain when it was done and none at all after a couple of days. I had pain pills but never needed them. That said, NO surgery has a 100% guarantee of no problems. No matter how simple the procedure, someone somewhere will have a bad reaction. However, it's far safer than pregnancy. Your wife has already taken her chances. Your turn.
Had it done on Friday and Shot a 190 lb. buck on the following Tuesday. I dragged that deer about 10 feet uphill from a creekbed and had to sit down quick. I thought my nutz exploded in my thermals.
Thank God two angels of mercy following a blood trail came by about a half hour later and got it up to a logging trail that I could get my truck to.
Did it in 96 ,took 2 days off work. Was sore for about 2 months while riding the horses. Added a lambskin pad to the saddles pommel and did not post till discomfort went away.
Had it done years ago. Did get epididimitis a few days later, but everything else functioned fine the next day on a test run... LOL.
I watched the whole procedure with a mirror, very interesting.
The worst thing IMHO was doc said when I give you this shot its going to put pressure in your gut area, almost like a punch there.. he was right, no big deal but funny to get a shot in the testicle region and feel it not there but way up in the guts.
I'm 52, have no issues at this time, dont' expect any either, its been probably 10 years ago now...
Never took a day off work either, otehr than the day of the procedure.
Oh yes, to add, my nephew just had it done. A year ago or so, about 30 years old. Dumb bastard went price shopping for the cheapest.... and was happy when the doc said he generally used just enough pain meds...
Pluck no, I want everything you have...
Nephew was sore/pain for a week or so, but seeing him in other things like cornea replacement a while back, he may be what he eats....
Oh yes, to add, my nephew just had it done. A year ago or so, about 30 years old. Dumb bastard went price shopping for the cheapest.... and was happy when the doc said he generally used just enough pain meds...
Pluck no, I want everything you have...
Nephew was sore/pain for a week or so, but seeing him in other things like cornea replacement a while back, he may be what he eats....
Getting cords snipped in your nutsack is not the time to go bargain basement shopping...
I don't want to have anymore kids and I want my wife to be happy..
That being said, whats the point of kid free sex if you have long term pain, schitty orgasms, and possible dick issues.
If you DID have dick issues, she'd divorce you for it. Count on it. (Unless you are like really rich... Then she'd just get it elsewhere while letting you pay the bills.)
Like a good friend of mine said to me one day, I will die a Bull. My wife got fixed right after we had our last kid in the Hospital, her Insurance deductible had already been met, so I was the lucky one.
Had mine in 89. No problems other than normal swelling. An ice pack will be your friend for a couple of days. It is comforting to know I don't have to worry about birth control (after draining the tank that is).
Like a good friend of mine said to me one day, I will die a Bull. My wife got fixed right after we had our last kid in the Hospital, her Insurance deductible had already been met, so I was the lucky one.
My SIL did it like this. While she was under for the procedure it was found out that the newborn only had half a heart[basically] and was airlifted to neo-natal facility across the state. He died 3 days later. A reversal for a woman is pretty difficult.
I was 23 yrs old and my wife had was diabetic, took insulin shots 4 times a day. she could not take birth control, so I got snipped in 1993, snipped on Friday, back to work on Monday. Spent the weekend with a ice pack and some lortab. 1 week later I was deer hunting in Alabama. no issues at all and even today everything works fine.
Back in 1997, I drove two friends to the office for the procedure. We all grew up together, they were always good to me and I was as protective of them as a friend could be.
I would say it was a good decision and even if they'd disagree, they're still hanging around all these years later.
Same here. Just follow the docs orders. No lifting at all for a while, and no other strains. I remember almost no pain. Friends that were macho boys that went home and exerted them selves ended up with a sack of two grapefruits for a few days. Follow directions and its the best time/money you will ever spend.
They can give you a chill pill before. Your wife can drive you home. Don't look at the equipment or think about it. Close your eyes and meditate. Take deep, slow breaths and count them. Think only of your breathing. Disconnect from everything else.
If you don't do it, she may start making you wear raincoats.
The long term pain and ED are probably psychological. Knew a guy who lost his "friends" in Vietnam. His wife said his gun still worked fine. Your'e keeping your "friends" and all that wonderful testosterone.
Back in 1997, I drove two friends to the office for the procedure. We all grew up together, they were always good to me and I was as protective of them as a friend could be.
I would say it was a good decision and even if they'd disagree, they're still hanging around all these years later.
My father got clipped and immediately drove from MI UP to Ashland, OH to shoot in the big handgun matches. Won Overall Tyro and all but one of the trophies.
Back in 1997, I drove two friends to the office for the procedure. We all grew up together, they were always good to me and I was as protective of them as a friend could be.
I would say it was a good decision and even if they'd disagree, they're still hanging around all these years later.
How painless and quick the recovery is can vary a lot. For most it's really no big deal but can turn into a pretty big deal for others.
Mine was not totally painless even with local anesthetic. Wasn't bad at all during the first snip but that changed quick when the Dr. got to digging around, pulling and twisting on stuff inside the second incision. Said he was having trouble finding whatever he was supposed to snip on that side. He yanked on some things in there that caused sharp pains in my lower gut area so intense it dang near brought me up off the table. When the Dr. finally found what he was looking for and snipped it out he showed it to me on his gloved finger tip. Looked like a little piece of elbow macaroni. A few stitches and that part was over.
Did it on a Friday went back to work on Monday. Took about a week or so for the most of the swelling and soreness/tenderness to subside. I did not strain, do anything fast, nor make any abrupt movements involving the lower half of my body during that week either and avoided stairs when possible. No regrets though. If I had it to do over I would do it again.
A coworker had it done and developed complications. His bag turned solid black and swelled up like a balloon the pressure causing him constant pain. He had to go some kind of medications and take off several days more from work.
but that changed quick when the Dr. got to digging around, pulling and twisting on stuff inside the second incision. Said he was having trouble finding whatever he was supposed to snip on that side. He yanked on some things in there that caused sharp pains in my lower gut area so intense it dang near brought me up off the table. When the Dr. finally found what he was looking for and snipped it out he showed it to me on his gloved finger tip. Looked like a little piece of elbow macaroni. A few stitches and that part was over.
That right there is the reason I'm still a working model.
If you'd ask my wife, she'd tell you my two old friends were a couple out-of-control nuts.
Originally Posted by Raeford
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by MIKEWERNER
Back in 1997, I drove two friends to the office for the procedure. We all grew up together, they were always good to me and I was as protective of them as a friend could be.
I would say it was a good decision and even if they'd disagree, they're still hanging around all these years later.
In the 70's had a buddy who had it done. He was told to do no heavy lifting for two weeks after. That afternoon his oldest daughter wanted to jump in dad's arms, running to him he scooped her up.
He spent the next three weeks with ice bags and wishing he had a wheel barrow.
My wife wants me to get snipped but I'm scared Schittless of both needles and don't trust the medical profession as a whole..
I tried to to do it last week, but when the needle came out, I put my pants back on and hauled ass out of the office..
That being said, I did some research afterwards and it seems that there is chance of long term pain, early onset ED, etc associated with the procedure..
Anyone have any words of advice or have any complications?
Do whatever you, or her, wants, but I'd never do it again. I didn't have much pain and what I had quickly went away, but things were just enough different after to make me regret it.
The 'caines have a limited effect on me. I had one side done essentially without anesthesia by a family practice doc. Got referred to a urologist who 'was an expert and knew what he was doing'. lol... same result - levitated off the table. Got finished under general anesthesia. Good times.
Had it done in 1976. Walked into surgeon's office on a Friday, sat up on the exam table, read the diplomas on the wall while waiting, one was a certificate presented by The 38th Parallel Army Medical Association for service during the Korean Conflict (if my memory is correct). Well, you know what what through my mind.
Doc came in and we discussed the procedure, then I was escorted to the table where the deed would be done. Doc gloved up and grabbed my right testicle. He pulled down on it. Then switched to the left one. He asked why my right testicle was so tight, he couldn't get it to drop much. I related the hernia and hydrocele repair where they used a nylon mesh reinforcement. Doc yanked on it again, then said he might want to send me to the hospital and do it under general anesthesia. I mentioned that I had reacted poorly to general anesthesia during my last three surgeries. Okay he says, "I'll try it here, but if I have trouble I'll send you to the hospital".
So he gets out the syringe, a big one with a long needle, and fills it with lidocaine. Now I had worked at a horse breeding farm, and I knew exactly where he was going to inject that stuff, right in the scrotum and cords, but hopefully I'd not be a gelding when it was over. The lidocaine burned for a second, then everything went numb, just like the dentist's office, or when they sutured the tendon together in my hand. He pulled on the right one again, gave another dose of lidocaine up a bit higher, then pulled really hard on it, made an incision in the scrotum, probed around for the vas diferens, and tied it off before snipping. He repeated the process on the other side, closed up the incisions with a couple of stitches, and made a grave warning.
"I had to pull pretty hard on that right one", He said.
I had noticed when I felt myself sliding down on the paper table cover.
"So it's likely to be sore. Go home, lie down or sit back in a recliner, and put an icepack under the scrotum for ten to fifteen minutes, then remove it for 20 minutes, and repeat for two days. Do not stand or do any walking around for two or three days. Make an appointment to come back in two weeks to have the sutures removed."
I followed his instructions exactly, no pain, very little swelling and bruising. Everything went swimmingly. I was back at work on Monday. Then I returned to have the stitches out. He came in the exam room, swabbed my scrotum with alcohol clipped the sutures and pulled them out - and pulled the alcohol through the raw holes! GREAT BALLS OF FIRE - that lit me up! Other than that, it was a good experience.
My coworker later went to Kaiser and had it done based on my good experience. But he didn't listen to doctor, even had sex within the first two days, said he wanted to, "Try it out". His turned blue, developed a cyst next to his anus that had to be opened up, scooped out, drained and packed with gauze, and they put him on antibiotics for a couple of weeks. Worse, he had to have the packing removed. He said that Kaiser wanted him to get his $1 copay worth. Rule #1: Always follow medical advise when it comes to your testicles, they can really become angry if abused.
The 'caines have a limited effect on me. I had one side done essentially without anesthesia by a family practice doc. Got referred to a urologist who 'was an expert and knew what he was doing'. lol... same result - levitated off the table. Got finished under general anesthesia. Good times.
Verced is your best friend. No sense in being in pain.
But be forewarned that Versed will make you unaware of anything you say or do for awhile afterwards. You will function normally but will have no recall whatsoever of what you said or did.
I have had no "long term " effects except for the first six months. Left side went off without a hitch but when he got the right side he definetly hit a nerve. Knew it would be over soon so I white knuckled it for another few minutes and we were done. Whatever happened on the right side bruised like a bastard and went halfway up my dick black and blue. Hurt for about 8 months during sex but never enough to stop me or effect performance. Glad I did it. Funniest part actually a few funny parts but collecting a sample on the way to the office to make sure I was shooting blanks, pulled over at a park and wife had her work cut out for her as I was still sore, but she's a trouper.
The 'caines have a limited effect on me. I had one side done essentially without anesthesia by a family practice doc. Got referred to a urologist who 'was an expert and knew what he was doing'. lol... same result - levitated off the table. Got finished under general anesthesia. Good times.
I went in, saw the needle and prepared for the worst............doc messed around and said "today's your lucky day"...........he couldn't do the procedure in the office.
Said he couldn't find a vas on the left side so would do the deal in the hospital, I'd be knocked out.
OK.
Woke up from anesthesia, couldn't open my eyes. Like a giant block of granite was sitting on me, crushing from head to toe. I hissed "what the F did you do to me?" and passed out. Woke up, same thing, knocked out again.
Think 3 to 5 times they morphined me.
Nurse was hot, big jugs too, didn't care. Apologized trying to get my socks on to leave.
Couldn't sit upright in wheelchair, the pain......they decided to admit me overnight. Told them they did enough damage and left.
The old lady packed 'em in frozen veg packs and I slept all night (woke up to eat and drink and go back to sleep).
Next day I'm on the couch miserable, stepson tries to be a good kid and mow yard. He couldn't get mower started, so I get up and pull start, and push mow the yard.
Feel like sheite, on the couch w icepack or mowing yard, no diff. The woman says I have a huge bump on my side. Yup, like a vacuum cleaner hose, I lay down and push my guts back in.
Miserable.
Go to work, same thing. Massive pain. Go to reg doc, and then to specialist..........yup, hernia.
Get that fixed a week later and feel better. But not good. Now it feels like my balls are in a frying pan on red/orange glow and getting tapped with a hammer. 24/7.
There are also these "lightning storms" of pain......whole body cramps up.
This crap goes on for a yr, solid. Then maybe every other day for the next yr. Then once a week for the 3rd.........finally something "popped" (scared me) and everything was gone pain/lightning storm wise within 3 months.
Of course I did my job to my size 1 old lady w a perfect ass..........the whole time. Brutal. Now that everything is OK.............she files for divorce and leaves LOL.
Oh well.
Turns out I'm missing a vas on one side because I'm also missing a kidney. Some acronym for it, common with premies......hell I never knew.
Lefty is brand new........never used...........guess I'm saving it for somebody special.
Oh yeah, after hernia op and all the pain from the nut deal, they did X ray to check for missing kidney (they should have done that instead of going exploratory while doing the vasectomy- that is what damaged all the nerves and gave me a hernia on top of it).
Told them I don't do well with lobster, say different iodine isotope.....it'll be OK.
Nope, turn red all over, boiling hot, like wrapped in fiberglass.
Total clusterfork.
Made it through OK, but for 3 yrs I didn't do much, couldn't do much........the pain.
Balls never bruised, swelled or nuthing. Everything else was a mess.
Never have another local dr do a procedure on me ever again. Even a specialist........think all the losers work in my burg.
I think the only reason I made it through that ordeal was due to the pain being constant. You can get used to stuff.
Was 8 our of 10 with multiple daily spikes to 15 the first yr. Then 6 with spikes to 10 a couple times a week, then maybe 4 with spikes to 8 once a month.
Then "pop" and 3 months later........fine.
It sucked. Luckily my job was under a miscroscope, so I had a good chair and just sat there rebuilding stuff for 16 hrs a day.
That intense focus job probably helped deal with the crap too.
If you have both vas and the docs don't dig around looking for stuff, should be a minor deal.
Think my condition is 1 in 15K or maybe it was 25K. Most folks don't know they've only got one nut hooked up (or missing a kidney).......until they have some procedure done.
While my snip became an ordeal, pretty damn horrible.....I'd guess others properly piped and being rerouted by a union plumber...........should be no big deal.
If your dr cant find a vas and wants to do the hospital version.........DEMAND and kidney/die X ray first.....
avoid the hernia crap (which might have added most of the pain, or kept things from healing as fast as they should have). Think the mesh from the hernia abraded nerves to the nuts. Scar tissue popped and things quit rubbing, all good after a couple months.
AFTER 3 yrs of BS (the first yr was freakin' brutal).
Pulled the stitches out of the sack when the itching got too bad, thought I was undoing a marble pouch and they were gonna spill out onto the floor........that "lacing" pulled out zig zag.....one long thread.........kinda funky and funny.
Read in a Mens Health mag a guy had a hernia repair, his balls felt like hit w hammer off and on. Doc said it could be 6 months, turned out it took a yr to go away.
Dunno what all got messed up on me, took 3 yrs to get back to normal.
As I sit here next to my daughter of one year at the ripe old age of 42 I am still glad I had my junk intact.I am however pissed at her for spitting on her underwear.
You better hope that Novocaine or lidocaine works as a pain killer. During my initial talk with the doc I asked what they used for a painkiller and he said lidocaine. I asked if it was basically the same as novocaine and he said similar but much better, and he asked me why I asked. Told him novocaine had absolutely no affect on me and he said not to worry. Well during the procedure he was doing his thing, and I could feel everything that was going on but it wasn't too uncomfortable til he said well we're all done and all I have to do is just cauterize down here. He had his little tray sitting above my chest with his instruments on it and when he went to cauterize, I swear to God, it felt like somebody put a weed burner blow torch on my nuts! I bolted upright, the tray with all his instruments flew across the room and he jumped back with a surprised look on his face saying "you felt that?". I said "your God damned right I did"! He asked me if I had been feeling everything and I told him yeah but it wasn't too uncomfortable. I proceeded to tell him we were done and I'm getting out of here. He said I can't let you leave unfinished and I told him if he tried that again I swear I'd knock his ass out. They ended up having to knock me out to finish the cauterizing. No bad affects afterwards, not a big deal, but you'd better hope that whatever they give you for painkiller works or you'll be performing the quickest sit up you've ever done in your life - and a blow torch on your nuts IS NOT AN EXAGGERATION!
I had mine done 44 years ago. Don't remember much pain or much of anything else about it. Wife bought me a copy of Playboy to read while I was recovering. If there are delayed complications or long-term side effects, they'd better hurry up and get here before I succumb to old age...
I"m thinking, could be wrong though, that if locals don't work on your nuts, then aything you have done with locals is going to hurt like hell.... just saying...
As most have noted, zero issue with mine done in 1998 after son number three surprised us eight years after son number two... As also noted, do make sure the shots are working. Mine didn't initially and the first cut sent me off the table. Other than that a piece of cake.
I'm one of the unlucky ones I guess. I never recommend it to anyone, and regret it daily.
I did it for much the same reasons as the OP was discussing, along with some of my own. To do over, I'd never have done it and I recommend to them considering it not to. My stuff still works, honestly as well as it ever did. But it did change things. I'm not ashamed to admit it, I started putting on the lbs, lost motivation etc and never got it back. I can't say I regret it daily though.
I can still feel the string pulling on my guts when he tugged it, and smell the burning as they cauterized the ends.
I had it done 10 years ago or so. Drove myself to the office, had it done, drove over to Murphy's in Tucson and perused the guns, then drove an hour home. Shouldn't have walked around after lol. Was riding a horse a week later that got to crow-hopping, I brought my knees up into the fetal position, bailed off and prayed I'd not lose my temper and shoot the SOB when I could straighten up.
Did it ten years ago, played baseball same night. Was tender for a couple days, no problems. Everything works, worst part was having to turn in samples to make sure everything was disconnected.
Had mine done at the ripe old age of 26..no complications or long term pain. Best decision Ive ever made in my life. I wanted to make good and sure I never spawned any children, and that did the trick......women be damned, they all want kids..they just had find another 'donor'!
My wife wants me to get snipped but I'm scared Schittless of both needles and don't trust the medical profession as a whole..
I tried to to do it last week, but when the needle came out, I put my pants back on and hauled ass out of the office..
That being said, I did some research afterwards and it seems that there is chance of long term pain, early onset ED, etc associated with the procedure..
Anyone have any words of advice or have any complications?
That needle hurts worse than a flamethrower being inserted into your penis and you smell your flesh burning as the knots are cauterized. If they don't put enough freezing in, which they didn't with me, you feel them burning the ends of the knots, and have to go through the needles again. Was not nice. One last note... two years later I was still dangerous. Have fun and don't be a wuss. It hurts for an hour. Your wife went through a lot worse and you stood there watching. It's the least you can do:)
it may be a huge coincidence, but the half-dozen or so i've known that got gelded all had prostate issues later on
Tis my understanding, we will ALL have prostate issues, if we live long enough.
The only reason I can think of to avoid a vasectomy, is if YOUR vasectomy would fail to keep YOUR wife from getting pregnant. That happened with a friend at work, and also with my sister's son in law.
Mine was done Dec 31, 1984 when my daughter was five weeks old.
Performance issues? Absolutely none. I am 61 and Momma is still praying for some form of ED to arise.
Medical issues? Probably not. I have been affected by epidenimitus several times in the years since. But there is no evidence that it has been related to the vasectomy.
Sex is much more care free, and a lot more fun when one is not fearful of or trying to avoid pregancy.
My wife wants me to get snipped but I'm scared Schittless of both needles and don't trust the medical profession as a whole..
I tried to to do it last week, but when the needle came out, I put my pants back on and hauled ass out of the office..
That being said, I did some research afterwards and it seems that there is chance of long term pain, early onset ED, etc associated with the procedure..
Anyone have any words of advice or have any complications?
Just tell her that your next wife might want kids!
A couple of things about the actual procedure if I may. Throwing it on your wife as some are want to do is not an close to an even trade. For her it involves a real anesthetic in an OR (general or "spinal" depending on the specific surgical procedure used) with "real" surgery; it's also a much more invasive procedure for her with a commensurate exponential leap in costs. And risks. Get it done yourself; false pride is a ridiculous motivator.
If a women is having another abdominal procedure done anyway, then an incidental bilateral tubal fulguration makes sense as almost all the risks and extras and expense have been met anyway. But IMO, all things being equal, that is the only time it makes sense or is justifiable for a husband to forgo the procedure only to have his wife have it done.
There isn't anybody that "novocaine" -- usually lidocaine or xylocaine -- doesn't work on. If it "doesn't work" the guy injecting it is not using enough or in the right area which is actually not that uncommon among many doc's. Local anesthetic are really miracle drugs. Hence, go to somebody well-practiced and patient. Generally (not always) a general surgeon would be a better bet. Generally of course, not in every instance.
Actually, actual Novocain is chemically an ester and there are cholesterases in the blood such that it can render the drug (and any local anesthetic that is an ester) ineffectual as an anesthetic. Lidocaine, bupivocaine and the like are chemically amides and are unaffected by blood.
"Verced" is Versed and is not a pain-killer; it is a benzodiazepine which is a short-action cousin to valium; it's a very good drug that can give you the relaxation you need and even some amnesia so that you might not even remember parts of the process.
A vasectomy is a rather simple procedure as the cords are rather superficial but as in anything a lot depends on the operator even for this simple procedure. Go to a guy who does a lot of them. Another thing, as with about everything else surgically or medically, the more insulation you've padded yourself with, the much more difficult this little procedure becomes requiring the operator to do a fair amount of searching which of course can add to the thrill of it all.
Relax, ask for a pre-procedure oral sedative; Versed or anything else injectable really requires an IV which most PCP probably will not offer.
The evening after a friend had it done he was kicked back in his underwear, spread legged, watching TV with his bag laying on a ice pack trying to get some relief. His two little preschool sons were romping, wrestling and chasing each other around the house. One boy threw a toy or something simple at this brother whereupon the other boy retaliated by throwing a big hard cover book. The book missed his brother but not dad. It landed dead center hard cover edge first. Said he thought he was going to pass out from the pain.
Had it done in Sick Bay on the USS Grand Canyon in 1973. Had it done on a Friday and was back to work without any real problems on Monday. I have never looked back and everything seems to still function.
There isn't anybody that "novocaine" -- usually lidocaine or xylocaine -- doesn't work on. If it "doesn't work" the guy injecting it is not using enough or in the right area which is actually not that uncommon among many doc's. Local anesthetic are really miracle drugs. Hence, go to somebody well-practiced and patient. Generally (not always) a general surgeon would be a better bet. Generally of course, not in every instance.
Actually, actual Novocain is chemically an ester and there are cholesterases in the blood such that it can render the drug (and any local anesthetic that is an ester) ineffectual as an anesthetic. Lidocaine, bupivocaine and the like are chemically amides and are unaffected by blood.
I can only speak from my own personal experience from dental and local surgeries (such as my vasectomy) that while the local anesthetics do work on me, it's just that I need a larger dose and longer time for it to take effect.
My dentist has finally figured it out after the few times I've planked on him while getting a filling. Now he hits me twice and waits about about 30 minutes before he starts to work.
Was the same thing with the vasectomy. The doc injected both sides. The first one was pretty sensitive. He hit the second side again before doing it and I didn't feel a thing.
I like riding bareback and no worries about fertilizing an egg
Read all the warning pre surgery, hah none of that stuff happens to me
Well it did for about 8 mos to a year every time I came it was like molten lava being hammered out those tubes, I'd sweat from the pain
But I was only 41 and I was willing to suffer a lot to empty the twins
That was the worst part, second worse part was the Valium really ah relaxed me. I can recall everything about the procedure including my running dialogue
Told the nurse as she was rubber banding lil Leroy to my tshirt so she could shave me
You've prolly lassoed bigger broncs but that's one bucking sob you got yer hands on there missy Don't think she was all that impressed, she never asked to ride it????
When doc was cauterizing ( mind you I been jabeering thru the whole procedure) he got around to cauterizing. Wisps of smoke rose
I commented well I'm not use to smoke signals from my nuts but you don't look nervous so guess I won't be either
He turned to look at me and deadpanned it's not my nuts on fire 🔥.
Oh? That shut me up for a bit
Bil. Is the smart one. Got dropped off after takin the Valium, said f it I'm just here for the free drugs and left
When I had mine done several years ago, the Doc used an electric thing like a soldering iron to burn through, rather than cut. Only thing that wasn't easy was I made the mistake of having a conversation with him about stuff unrelated to the procedure and he looked up to answer a question, hit my scrotum with that little cattle prod he was working with! Actually raised me off the table! He was evidently scared he had done major damage, got me out of there as fast as he could - not sure I even had a follow-up visit scheduled?
Never had any problems after the swelling went down and the soreness went away.
My procedure was much the same. I was lying back and started smelling burning flesh. The something burning was me. I still chuckle at the thought.
Have had some cysts cut and cauterized out. Smelling ones own burning flesh is an interesting experience..
Must not have ever singed many birds... not a lot of difference to my nose. Even when dealing with burned bodies still seems about like burning feathers to me.
Pain - NO, most I can say is I felt the cut - but NO pain.
Recovery - NO problem, no drugs, iced once... you may want to avoid stairs for a day or two.
Biggest problem - when he stitched I think he folded the skin, one side felt like a pinch till the stitch came out, three days later.
For me there was no cauterizing... but the wife did find the clamps they put over the end of the Vas , the other end is left 'open'...
Insurance paid for it.........
Dancin' in the rain....Rain-coat free for life!
Side effects!?!?!
Knew of one guy that 'repaired' himself!?!?
Another that began to get aroused during prep... Nurse took it in her hand smacked it and said '...they'll be none of that...' he said that 'immediatley... there wasn't'
As someone also said.. knew of one that did not have plumbing on one side, he got a little swollen, so he said... something about softball size!?!?!?
They tape your D!(K out of the way for the procedure, and one nipple was sore for about two days after they ripped the tape off!
Another reason for that "tugging up in my guts" and for the perception that "local" doesn't work is that your friendly 10th cranial nerve -- the vagus -- heads south from your brain base bypassing the spinal nerves and ends up permeating almost all of your viscera; that is, all your innards.
You can block the tissues all around those little tubes with local but retraction of them (lifting them up) with an instrument which is necessary to cut them will transmit that little action upstream to your brain and that cannot be blocked. Thus cramping, uncomfortable pressure, etc ensues. It's one reason a spinal or epidural anesthetic in itself is not sufficient for any bowel surgery even an appendectomy though you may be numb as a stump from nipples down.
Getting snipped is the easy part. I had it done years ago with no issues. I'm 59 with no ED issues.
A friend of mine had it done and a couple of years later he and his wife decided they wanted a 3rd child. Putting it back together is much more difficult with less likely to work. He was in a lot of pain, but it worked.
Had it done about 20 years ago, it's an operation so yes there are POSSIBLE side effects, as with anything. They are rare.
My experience, done on a Friday morning. Spent the weekend on the couch icing per doctors orders. No discomfort/pain at all. Plus you get Doctors order to have sex after a week, need to clear out the already built up little critters before you're considered "safe", so more sex you have the faster you get to the "safe" point.
Only thing I remember is the tugging in my stomach, not pain, just not comfort, and one of the injections took my breath away for some reason.
My less invasive that tubes getting tied in the wife.
I did it in 2002 in south Africa, he used a laser to cauterize one end. and I was awake and aware with a little bit of valium. No recovery time at all. Ready to function normally the same day and no pain whatsoever. I cannot imagine not doing this.
It was nothing, removing a bad sliver, or walking with a blistered heel is 100 times worse! Just do it, it's a no brainer!
It was about 25 yrs. ago when I had mine. The the nurse told me it was her first one. When I got the bill there was a mistake on it. I tried to correct them and was told billing did not make a mistake...best 12 bucks I ever spent...
There isn't anybody that "novocaine" -- usually lidocaine or xylocaine -- doesn't work on. If it "doesn't work" the guy injecting it is not using enough or in the right area which is actually not that uncommon among many doc's. Local anesthetic are really miracle drugs. Hence, go to somebody well-practiced and patient. Generally (not always) a general surgeon would be a better bet. Generally of course, not in every instance.
Actually, actual Novocain is chemically an ester and there are cholesterases in the blood such that it can render the drug (and any local anesthetic that is an ester) ineffectual as an anesthetic. Lidocaine, bupivocaine and the like are chemically amides and are unaffected by blood.
I can only speak from my own personal experience from dental and local surgeries (such as my vasectomy) that while the local anesthetics do work on me, it's just that I need a larger dose and longer time for it to take effect.
My dentist has finally figured it out after the few times I've planked on him while getting a filling. Now he hits me twice and waits about about 30 minutes before he starts to work.
Was the same thing with the vasectomy. The doc injected both sides. The first one was pretty sensitive. He hit the second side again before doing it and I didn't feel a thing.
For some reason the dentists I had contact with back in the day did use Novocain, not the generic "novocain" but actually Novocain. I don't know if this was generational dental training or just my keyhole experience with a few of them.
Anyway, as I mentioned Novocaine is an ester rendered ineffective as a local anesthetic by cholinesterases in the blood and the gums are highly vascular -- a lot of blood perfusing the area. That could be one reason for some of the unpleasant experiences in the dental chair in the golden, olden-days, or for that reason by anyone who was administered this drug in a highly vascular area.
My wife had a planned C section for our last child and since they were already there she had her tubes tied saving me the pain, embarrassment and public humiliation of having to be gelded.
I had pain for almost a year. Maybe my version of taking it easy for a few days is different than other people. I never take it easy, with a physical profession and a farm. I think I over did it in the days after surgery.
Get it done! I had mine done in 79 and never had any problems,,except one! Wait a couple days before you jump out of the lifted pickup! When the feet hit the ground the nuts stop too fast!
geld ɡeld/ verb past tense: gelded; past participle: gelded castrate (a male animal). synonyms: castrate, neuter, fix, alter, desex
is not Vasectomy
noun [ C/U ] US /vəˈsek·tə·mi, væ-/ the medical operation of cutting the tubes through which a man’s semen (= liquid containing sperm) move, in order to make him unable to make a woman pregnant
Bleeding or a blood clot (hematoma) inside the scrotum Blood in your semen Bruising of your scrotum Infection of the surgery site Mild pain or discomfort Swelling
Delayed complications can include:
Chronic pain (rare) Fluid buildup in the testicle, which can cause a dull ache that gets worse with ejaculation Inflammation caused by leaking sperm (granuloma) Pregnancy, in the event that your vasectomy fails (rare) An abnormal cyst (spermatocele) that develops in the small, coiled tube located on the upper testicle that collects and transports sperm (epididymis) A fluid-filled sac (hydrocele) surrounding a testicle that causes swelling in the scrotum
Not sure about you gals, but I don't want to be that one guy in a 1000 that has pain every time I shoot a load. Can't say swelling balls does much for me either.
Not sure about you gals, but I don't want to be that one guy in a 1000 that has pain every time I shoot a load. Can't say swelling balls does much for me either.
Can't blame you a bit If I had it to do,over I wouldn't do it
Lived thru it and fine now, but the first year I paid one helluva price
Not sure about you gals, but I don't want to be that one guy in a 1000 that has pain every time I shoot a load. Can't say swelling balls does much for me either.
It seems to be more like 2-3 out of 100 that have serious long term issues..
Whats the point of trying to have no risk sex if is isn't fun anymore.
Just get one side done. If it isn't too bad, go back and do the other.
A friend of mine got to BSing with the doctor. Nut one went fine. Nut 2 sent him to a new level. The doc forgot to numb that side. If there are handprints in the steel table, you probably have the same doctor.
George, I don't know if I buy that novocain works on everybody, they just didn't give you enough thought. I needed 4 teeth pulled years ago and the dentist gave me 15-18 shots, can't remember the exact number anymore but do remember he said he had given me 3 times as much as it should of taken to get the job done. Still hate dentists to this day, all those shots and the only affect it had on me was it felt like my tongue was thicker than normal, didn't do a damn thing to numb anything.
Buddy had it done years ago and felt frisky after a couple of days. His wife called us and his nuts were the size of a basketball so we had to put him in the bed of the truck to haul him to the ER.
I think 40's and older is the right time for kids, ideally. You don't need as much sleep, up several times to pisss anyway, social life is waning, more mature emotionally, etc. Having kids in your partying 20's is a drag and gets in the way of picking up chicks. 😁
My wife wants me to get snipped but I'm scared Schittless of both needles and don't trust the medical profession as a whole..
I tried to to do it last week, but when the needle came out, I put my pants back on and hauled ass out of the office..
That being said, I did some research afterwards and it seems that there is chance of long term pain, early onset ED, etc associated with the procedure..
Anyone have any words of advice or have any complications?
Wear a jock for a week afterward. Use a rotation of 4 packages of frozen peas and carrots (the medley) as an ice pack for two days after. Don't do anything stupid like play golf or hike for a week.
You'll be fine. Did mine 15 years ago and was also scared [bleep]. It's not the most pleasant of procedures, but it's not a big deal.
George, I don't know if I buy that novocain works on everybody, they just didn't give you enough thought. I needed 4 teeth pulled years ago and the dentist gave me 15-18 shots, can't remember the exact number anymore but do remember he said he had given me 3 times as much as it should of taken to get the job done. Still hate dentists to this day, all those shots and the only affect it had on me was it felt like my tongue was thicker than normal, didn't do a damn thing to numb anything.
Teeth needed pulling because they were bad likely. Meaning they likely had a minor infection... cousin did that to me to soon once... same result, had to go home for a few days more of antibiotics. Came back and handful of shots and all was fine....
I'm 42 and the wife just gave birth to our second.
We talked about it. I ain't going to do it.
42 and a child birth. I"d be ready to hang myself.....
Based on your experience having kids?
Because of my experience of not having kids. No use for them personally, wife feels same. If we'd have had one in our 40s, we'd be ready to retire before the kid was out of school.
Different strokes, but not for us.
Cousin had one at 50ish... will be mid 60s before Luke is out of school... I watch them suffer and struggle being that old with a kid. They wouldn't trade it though. I wouldn't want it period.
Rost495, it wasn't a case of bad teeth or an infection, just too much crowding and he said to keep them all straight four of them needed removed. I'm not a guy that touches or needs much medication either, I just think some medications just don't work on the chemistry of some people.
I'm 42 and the wife just gave birth to our second.
We talked about it. I ain't going to do it.
42 and a child birth. I"d be ready to hang myself.....
Based on your experience having kids?
Because of my experience of not having kids. No use for them personally, wife feels same. If we'd have had one in our 40s, we'd be ready to retire before the kid was out of school.
Different strokes, but not for us.
Cousin had one at 50ish... will be mid 60s before Luke is out of school... I watch them suffer and struggle being that old with a kid. They wouldn't trade it though. I wouldn't want it period.
I understand what you said and agree, in that I didn't want to be an old dad so I had mine in my early 20s. First one wasn't exactly planned lol but my wife and I had absolutely planned on kids anyway so we rolled with it. Wouldn't change a thing even if I could.
My point was not having had kids you can't understand why a a couple would be willing to do it again in their 40's. Kids are a blessing, but not for everyone for sure! I wish more folks were as pragmatic about it as you and didn't have kids they didn't want or weren't prepared to care for.
George, I don't know if I buy that novocain works on everybody, they just didn't give you enough thought. I needed 4 teeth pulled years ago and the dentist gave me 15-18 shots, can't remember the exact number anymore but do remember he said he had given me 3 times as much as it should of taken to get the job done. Still hate dentists to this day, all those shots and the only affect it had on me was it felt like my tongue was thicker than normal, didn't do a damn thing to numb anything.
Many lay folks use "Novocain" as a catch name for any and all local anesthetics I think because dentists did seem to use it more than any other local anesthetic. At least they did back in the day.
Locals act at the nerve cell wall by depoarizing it (ion exchange) and keeping it so for the duration and since everybody is mostly more than less the same physiologically, they work on everybody. I have had people tell me locals didn't work on them through the years -- did you feel that? Well, no. See?
Also there are proprioception nerves (transmit pressure and touch) that are distinguished from other sensory nerves that transmit pain and while the latter may be perfectly blocked -- no pain at all, the patient might feel pressure. That unnerves some folks who then interpret that as the block is not working and "I feel it; I feel it!!
As I mentioned before real Novocaine is an ester and doesn't work well in a bloody milieu because cholinesterases in the blood break it down or can. Also, NO local anesthetic works well at the site of a bad infection due to ph changes in the tissue which affect the drug's ability in polarizing the nerve cell walls.
I quit using ester local anesthetics in the 80's in spinal anesthesia because one would often pop through an epidural vein and I'd then get a bad or spotty block. At least I am pretty sure that was the reason. I Switched to the amides (lidocaine and bupivicaine are the masthead examples) and presto -- no more spotty blocks.
Sorry, but 15-18 shots would have me bidding that Dentist sayonara -- probably for good. And I'd think about sending him a bill...😫
Needless to say, after all those shots without doing any good, I said enough is enough and walked out never to return. And it wasn't pressure that was causing my white knuckle clutching of the chair, or the cussing coming out of my mouth. It was kind of funny when I walked out and looked at the kid waiting to be next - he was white as a ghost, and if his mom wouldn't of been clutching his arm, he'd of probably been at least a mile away still hauling ass.
Kids aren't for everyone! One of my wife and I's best friends dont' have or want kids, just not for them. I respect that decision, kids are a lifetime commitment!
We had ours in our mid-20s. They are out of college, out of the house and off our bank account now! Heading into our mid-50's with health, money and the desire to have fun and travel is a blast!
My wife wants me to get snipped but I'm scared Schittless of both needles and don't trust the medical profession as a whole..
I tried to to do it last week, but when the needle came out, I put my pants back on and hauled ass out of the office..
That being said, I did some research afterwards and it seems that there is chance of long term pain, early onset ED, etc associated with the procedure..
Anyone have any words of advice or have any complications?
Somebody probably told you to shave your junk. This is good advice, shave your junk just prior to the appointment. That will save you from having some giggly, squirmy, fabulous male nurse shave them for you.
I'm 42 and the wife just gave birth to our second.
We talked about it. I ain't going to do it.
42 and a child birth. I"d be ready to hang myself.....
Based on your experience having kids?
Because of my experience of not having kids. No use for them personally, wife feels same. If we'd have had one in our 40s, we'd be ready to retire before the kid was out of school.
Different strokes, but not for us.
Cousin had one at 50ish... will be mid 60s before Luke is out of school... I watch them suffer and struggle being that old with a kid. They wouldn't trade it though. I wouldn't want it period.
I understand what you said and agree, in that I didn't want to be an old dad so I had mine in my early 20s. First one wasn't exactly planned lol but my wife and I had absolutely planned on kids anyway so we rolled with it. Wouldn't change a thing even if I could.
My point was not having had kids you can't understand why a a couple would be willing to do it again in their 40's. Kids are a blessing, but not for everyone for sure! I wish more folks were as pragmatic about it as you and didn't have kids they didn't want or weren't prepared to care for.
On another note wife and I would do just fine with kids, because we are responsible. We'd enjoy them too as it were. Just never wanted them.
I agree though, we'd be far better off if everyone understood responsibility and planning....thats not just for childbirth either...
My wife wants me to get snipped but I'm scared Schittless of both needles and don't trust the medical profession as a whole..
I tried to to do it last week, but when the needle came out, I put my pants back on and hauled ass out of the office..
That being said, I did some research afterwards and it seems that there is chance of long term pain, early onset ED, etc associated with the procedure..
Anyone have any words of advice or have any complications?
Somebody probably told you to shave your junk. This is good advice, shave your junk just prior to the appointment. That will save you from having some giggly, squirmy, fabulous male nurse shave them for you.
You're welcome.
You say that like we're not shaving our junk regularly??? You outa frozen OJ?
Shaving your junk is only part of it I thought? What about frozen OJ?
Frozen OJ is for the sniffles.
Shaving junk is for vasectomy.
Any sort of combination treatment is actually not recommended.
I realize this may come as a surprise to some of you that may have confused my medical advice in the past. I'm very sorry for anyone that has been shaving their junk WITH frozen OJ concentrate. This is actually wrong, the burning will stop if you correct this process.
Thanks Dave. So stop using frozen OJ but continue shaving junk daily. I thought I suffered from razor burn but I bet the frozen OJ was a contributing factor. It does burn but I found spreading some cream cheese on the affected area was soothing....for myself and the cats.
My wife wants me to get snipped but I'm scared Schittless of both needles and don't trust the medical profession as a whole..
I tried to to do it last week, but when the needle came out, I put my pants back on and hauled ass out of the office..
That being said, I did some research afterwards and it seems that there is chance of long term pain, early onset ED, etc associated with the procedure..
Anyone have any words of advice or have any complications?
Somebody probably told you to shave your junk. This is good advice, shave your junk just prior to the appointment. That will save you from having some giggly, squirmy, fabulous male nurse shave them for you.
You're welcome.
I already have a naked, slightly itchy mole rat in my pants from last weeks prep.
My wife wants me to get snipped but I'm scared Schittless of both needles and don't trust the medical profession as a whole..
I tried to to do it last week, but when the needle came out, I put my pants back on and hauled ass out of the office..
That being said, I did some researchafterwards and it seems that there is chance of long term pain, early onset ED, etc associated with the procedure..
Anyone have any words of advice or have any complications?
So what you're saying is the research is being used to cover for your fear of needles.
My wife wants me to get snipped but I'm scared Schittless of both needles and don't trust the medical profession as a whole..
I tried to to do it last week, but when the needle came out, I put my pants back on and hauled ass out of the office..
That being said, I did some researchafterwards and it seems that there is chance of long term pain, early onset ED, etc associated with the procedure..
Anyone have any words of advice or have any complications?
So what you're saying is the research is being used to cover for your fear of needles.
I found a place that will put me completely under, I just wanted to make sure that when I wake up everything would still be in working order.
So you guys worried about pain and negative effects resulting from a vasectomy:
I gaurandamntee it ain't gonna hurt near as bad as when Momma has to push out that kid which she didn't really want anyway. And long lasting negative effects or injuries, have you guys looked at some of the negative consequences a woman might face carrying a child?
Possible consequences of a vasectomy pale by comparison in scope and frequency.
All forms of birth control have failure rates. Most as high as three percent.
While my wife and I wanted a couple kids, we actually intended to wait a couple years for finances to stabilize. We were using contraceptive foam and condoms both times when she got pregnant.
Turns out, the kids were not much more expensive than a couple dozen conoms each week.
If I had to give birth my wife and I would be childless. I haven't slept in 48 hours from the pain of my shoulder surgery. There's no way I'd get a vasectomy, I'd just keep taking the pill. 😉
So you guys worried about pain and negative effects resulting from a vasectomy:
I gaurandamntee it ain't gonna hurt near as bad as when Momma has to push out that kid which she didn't really want anyway. And long lasting negative effects or injuries, have you guys looked at some of the negative consequences a woman might face carrying a child?
Possible consequences of a vasectomy pale by comparison in scope and frequency.
All forms of birth control have failure rates. Most as high as three percent.
While my wife and I wanted a couple kids, we actually intended to wait a couple years for finances to stabilize. We were using contraceptive foam and condoms both times when she got pregnant.
Turns out, the kids were not much more expensive than a couple dozen conoms each week.
Come on boys....man up.... and get em snipped!
Sorry, but outside of complications, I'm not overly sympathetic. They were made and designed for bearing children.
Somebody probably told you to shave your junk. This is good advice, shave your junk just prior to the appointment. That will save you from having some giggly, squirmy, fabulous male nurse shave them for you.
You're welcome.
They told me not to shave beforehand, they wanted to make sure there was no stubble I guess. Also, having not taken the valium they'd prescribed ( i had to drive home) my plumbing was still in full effect. Had one pretty nurse teaching the other pretty nurse how to do it. My tongue was bleeding by the time they were done, trying to keep from "raising the flag". One of my few regrets, I should've let it happen. Yeah, I'd have likely be thwacked or something but maybe not?
My buddy from my previous story said his nurse was a 6'4" linebacker of a dike so he wasn't worried about raising the flag. He said when she scrubbed his sack she wasn't gentle and that he could feel the loathing she had for his franks and beans.
If I had to give birth my wife and I would be childless. I haven't slept in 48 hours from the pain of my shoulder surgery. There's no way I'd get a vasectomy, I'd just keep taking the pill. 😉
When the doc tells you the pill may kill you with cancer you MIGHT think different.
RE pain... I've talked to female nurses that have had kidney stones... they say they'd rather have another child... well some of them have said that.
I've had numerous stones and pain meds really don't work to speak off... I haven't gone in for stone in years... stay home, moan and groan and wait for it to pass...
So you guys worried about pain and negative effects resulting from a vasectomy:
I gaurandamntee it ain't gonna hurt near as bad as when Momma has to push out that kid which she didn't really want anyway. And long lasting negative effects or injuries, have you guys looked at some of the negative consequences a woman might face carrying a child?
Possible consequences of a vasectomy pale by comparison in scope and frequency.
All forms of birth control have failure rates. Most as high as three percent.
While my wife and I wanted a couple kids, we actually intended to wait a couple years for finances to stabilize. We were using contraceptive foam and condoms both times when she got pregnant.
Turns out, the kids were not much more expensive than a couple dozen conoms each week.
Several years ago I had trouble getting numbed up for dental work. Same dentist I have used 30 or more years. He couldn't understand it, shots, wait, not numb, repeat, not numb. The third time I was numb enough to deal with it. By the time we went home my whole face was dead. Never had a problem since.
Just the first couple years, of course. She was a monster while carrying our son. But the next kid dampened her enthusiasm. I had the snip done soon after anyway.
Doc told me to tell wife that I would need blow job once a day for a couple weeks as a recovery therapy.
I had the procedure in 2001. Doc was real good. I was advised before procedure to get a couple bags of frozen corn or peas. Use these in place of an ice bag. Pliable and light weight.
Was done at docs by noon on Friday. Drove home, stayed on the couch with the bags of corn the rest of day.Drank a few beers too. Went to work Saturday morning, took it easy. No real pain or complications.
During procedure I distracted myself by reading a magazine held up to block what doc was doing. Only thing that got my attention was when a smoke signal went up while the cauterizing was being done.
Going in to give my sample afterward was possibly the most embarrassing moment of my adult life.
Another experience for me that was as bad as the procedure itself.
Showed up to drop off my first sample and the young lady at the front desk tells me to just go on through the doors straight back to the lab desk down the hallway.
When I get there, the are two ladies are kind of looking at me crazy like "what are you doing here?". I told them the receptionist had sent me back to drop off my sample for testing. One of these women then walks me back to the front desk with my sample and scolds the young receptionist for sending me back unannounced in front of a waiting room full of patients. She made no effort to keep the conversation private. All I wanted to do was get in and out of there as quickly and discreetly as possible. That didn't happen at all.