Well so much for supporting the 2nd anendnent. We may well need to dump trump in the 2020 primary, and all those rhino Republicans that supported the anti gun $hit in the bill.
What a maroon. Trump and republicans have lost national elections for a long time with this. Sounded like a war monger. Trump got snookered and citizens got screwed.
Yep, defend him for not signing it an hour ago,,,now defend him for signing it,,,where's the Vulcan Mind Meld specialist now ?
I am kind of interested in his supporting DACA and the left abandoning them, as I would have thought both positions would run counter to what was expected.
added, also a bit interested in what it was he got out of it that he wanted.
We don't need to spend more money on defense (How much of it is wasted in crap hole middle East countries playing world police) or on planned parenthood.
I'm done, F#^K em all. Doesn't matter how we vote, they all do the same crap and screw us over. F U C K it. This is NOT why we voted him in. He got rolled and we got chit on again.
I'm done, F#^K em all. Doesn't matter how we vote, they all do the same crap and screw us over. F U C K it. This is NOT why we voted him in. He got rolled and we got chit on again.
^^^ This Kiss the house and senate good by and Trump a one termer.
I, too, am disappointed the bill was signed with almost NO ONE knowing what is in it . . . I am MORE disappointed, however, in knowing that our CONGRESS would send such a bill to him.
So much for all the "forgotten people" not being forgotten again.
One step forward . . . 2 steps back, over and over again.
I'm done, F#^K em all. Doesn't matter how we vote, they all do the same crap and screw us over. F U C K it. This is NOT why we voted him in. He got rolled and we got chit on again.
^^^ This Kiss the house and senate good by and Trump a one termer.
Remember "Read My Lipps"?
On face it looks like the Swamp is grooming a new rat.
Still, he might be privy to intelligence reports that has him doing what was expedient to re-build our military and their resources.
Whatever anyone wants to believe, he's never been a conservative. He's more of a pragmatist, I believe.
It's not why we elected him, but I think he recognized the urgency for defense build-ups immediately if not sooner.
It is disappointing but if the democrats get the House and Senate back in November, Defense won't get a dime for the next 2 years and we will have Obama care back. The country is in a mess and the democrats drove it there starting with LBJ and his great society. Everyone is on the tit and no one wants to give it up.
Pence is a good man, much better than Trump, but it wouldnt change anything even if Pence were in the drivers seat. Big business interests run the country....period. Congress and the Senate are just puppets. The only way to fix it is to make it a hanging offence for any politician to take a dime from anyone or any business for their lifetime in office, which should be no more than 2-terms. Will never happen.
From what I've seen today on quite a few FB hunting/fishing pages and some other places, Trump lost a lot of his base today. The left are giddy with excitement. To bad because he could have won big with a veto...
Meh, I think some of you folks are giving Trump too much credit for some secret plan we're all waiting for. The government shutdown/budget showdown has turned into a political hot potato. Everyone tries to make the other guy out to be the one that will be responsible for a shutdown and it's just turned into a game of chicken. Trump didn't want to be seen as the guy responsible for a government shutdown. I wish we had someone who would just let the damn government shutdown already for like 3 months and let everyone see just how little it actually impacts their lives. That's the dirty little secret. All the politicians don't want the people to realize how little they really need many of these programs.
Meh, I think some of you folks are giving Trump too much credit for some secret plan we're all waiting for. The government shutdown/budget showdown has turned into a political hot potato. Everyone tries to make the other guy out to be the one that will be responsible for a shutdown and it's just turned into a game of chicken. Trump didn't want to be seen as the guy responsible for a government shutdown. I wish we had someone who would just let the damn government shutdown already for like 3 months and let everyone see just how little it actually impacts their lives. That's the dirty little secret. All the politicians don't want the people to realize how little they really need many of these programs.
Trump didn't wanna be the scapegoat.
Instead he turned himself into the enabler. The Swamp if you will...
He could have made a hill of this budget and kept his base. But he didn't. I don't know why he didn't, but he didn't.
Reagan sure didn't have any trouble vetoing their frivolous spending bills.
From what I've seen today on quite a few FB hunting/fishing pages and some other places, Trump lost a lot of his base today. The left are giddy with excitement. To bad because he could have won big with a veto...
From what I've seen today on quite a few FB hunting/fishing pages and some other places, Trump lost a lot of his base today. The left are giddy with excitement. To bad because he could have won big with a veto...
Yes he did and he will play hell getting it back,
Playing chess is much harder than playing checkers.
Trump allowed the treasury to be pillaged in exchange for giving a ton of money to the military.
It was his Art of the Deal.
Only things he didn't get that he wanted was millions of illegals becoming citizens, and funding for his wall. He'll keep trying for those.
I don't mind the military being funded as to what their needs are, but right now we're using the military in chithole places where we don't need to be.
As far as I'm concerned, the biggest threat facing this country is the millions of illegals who are here, and who are helping elect Democrats.....who in turn are encouraging even more of them to come here.
Donald Trump said he was going to do something about that..................HE HAS NOT.
The worst part of it all is that it greatly increases the chance of a Democrat inhabiting the White House in 2020.
Another Democrat President = amnesty = a blue Texas = end game.
Wrong. The worst part of this is that it only funds the .gov through September. So now we have to fight this out AGAIN during the midterms. Very bad move, Trump. UNLESS... he refuses to sign another budget unless it funds the .gov until the end December, 2020 (i.e. after the 2020 presidential election).
The worst part is this budget only goes through September. So, they can fight about it all over again a month before the elections. I predict, and so do all the Democrats, that Trump will fold on that one too and he will be labeled the biggest spending president in history.
Man, seems like Neil Gorsuch is already forgotten. If the R’s don’t stand together, he’ll be the last conservative justice appointed to the Supreme Court.
Mark this day on the calendar. This will be a turning point and not for the good. Many will abandon Trump now. The mid terms now will go left as Trump's base will stay home. As was said, "read my lips". Trump may now be impeached, as Bristoe has noted.
Even if Trump knows that there is high need for the military build up, and soon, there was nothing that would have been built in a few days that would have made a difference.
This was Trump's big mistake. It is one I have a hard time believing he made. There must be more to this story.
Ryan and McConnell teamed up with Pelosi and Schumer to ensure the swamp is saved. The whole Trump agenda is most likely now unattainable. Trump was our big hope for a correction and he has been out gunned by the never Trumpers and Romney's little bitch Ryan. We have now done the ballot box thing and you see exactly where that got us. Remember Ryan and McConnell as the swamp rats that ate our liberty, if and when that day of reckoning ever comes about.
Mark this day on the calendar. This will be a turning point and not for the good. Many will abandon Trump now. The mid terms now will go left as Trump's base will stay home. As was said, "read my lips". Trump may now be impeached, as Bristoe has noted.
Even if Trump knows that there is high need for the military build up, and soon, there was nothing that would have been built in a few days that would have made a difference.
This was Trump's big mistake. It is one I have a hard time believing he made. There must be more to this story.
Ryan and McConnell teamed up with Pelosi and Schumer to ensure the swamp is saved. The whole Trump agenda is most likely now unattainable. Trump was our big hope for a correction and he has been out gunned by the never Trumpers and Romney's little bitch Ryan. We have now done the ballot box thing and you see exactly where that got us. Remember Ryan and McConnell as the swamp rats that ate our liberty, if and when that day of reckoning ever comes about.
The bitches should be directed at congress, not the President.
Oh, they will be. Which is why we will quite likely lose the House, and then next year Trump is possibly facing impeachment proceedings.
This is only a 6 month bill also. So we'll be facing another bill put together in smoky back rooms in 6 months as a bunch of politicians line their pockets before being voted out.
The bitches should be directed at congress, not the President.
Oh, they will be. Which is why we will quite likely lose the House, and then next year Trump is possibly facing impeachment proceedings.
This is only a 6 month bill also. So we'll be facing another bill put together in smoky back rooms in 6 months as a bunch of politicians line their pockets before being voted out.
Yeah, Trump signed it into law...
This was a liberal play orchestrated by the Dimmies, and all the RINOS and Trump played right into it.
Now they are putty in the Dimmie's hands. The next takes place right during the midterms.
Does anyone think the RINOS or Trump will vote against the next one?
I've never understood the significance of a veto being overridden, but historically Presidents have tried to avoid it.
Dunno why. Right is right.
Maybe it's hard for a person with the type of ego it takes to be elected President, and especially hard for this particular President, to entertain the thought that his decision may be overridden .
Just exactly what was President Trump supposed to do?
The yes vote at 65 weren't no coincidence.
When was the last time there was 65 for anything contentious? Never.
Some R's were allowed ta vote no cause they're not well liked and up for re-election.
But, ol' number 66 was obviously waitin in the wings to punk the President if he vetoed it.
The bill was a coordinated effort between R's and D's to jack with Trump for tryin to insist they do what the people put em there for.
And there's no way they're gonna do *that*.
So, the R and D handlers came up with a crapass bill, and agreed to vote 65 yes.
So, Trump vetoes it and gets overridden, or signs it.
The bitches should be directed at congress, not the President.
You are correct that it is the congress that the people should be pissed at and not Trump. But Trump should have vetoed it even if it was overridden because he would have solidified his base and they would have been energized going into the mid terms. Now the energy has been sucked out of the base and many will stay home. There is so much riding on the mid terms that this mistake will cost him a majority and future wins for his agenda.
I am pissed at Trump for missing this opportunity to show the base he is the fighter we want him to be, not another compromising Republican to keep the swamp alive as many will see him now.
Trump is still our best hope and needs to be supported at the polls this November. A mid term victory will nullify most of this mistake. Otherwise we got nothing.
It's as simple as this. It's Congress' job to pass an acceptable budget. Tell them to grow up, get back to their offices, pass a budget for you to sign and get back to business. This crap about kicking the can down the road every 6 months, and the president tolerating that behavior, sets a precedence that the budget doesn't matter. The Democrats WANT that precedence but if the budget doesn't matter, then the debt doesn't matter. And if the debt doesn't matter, then the country doesn't matter. Trump should have VETO'd this turd, and told them if people cried, screamed and moaned about the government shutting down, them could thank Congress for not doing their job.
It's predictable, all the "I wanna be Trump's Monica" are coming to his rescue, telling us that he didn't have a choice.........the Hell he didn't, he could have vetoed it. I am far more interested in seeing this country succeed than I am in seeing any certain politician come out looking good. It was in the best interests of the country for Trump to veto it. Now, they might have overridden his veto, but that would have been on them. This is on him, and it's probably going to hurt him a lot more than most will admit.
sure its bad Trump signed it,but his veto would have done nothing but pissed congress off more, he did save the military budget. its hard to do things right when half the republicans are in with the democrats. hopefully we keep a republican congress and Ryan lose`s his position in congress for good ! Trump has a tuff next 3 years but Trump is no bodies fool either,don`t give up on President Trump just yet,let`s hope he can get some miracles done. build the wall,get rid of illegals,put Hillary and bill in jail, no more money to over sea`s ?
Trump has been the toughest S.O.B. in Washington. He has all the Dems, a big part of the Rino's, the main stream media, some of Fox, and most of celebrity and academia doing all they came to stop him. Yet he kept a stiff spine. That's a lot of resistance to hold up under.
He keeps on keeping on through the vocal support of his base, we the people. Without those rallies and the average Joe showing up to cheer him on, I doubt He could go the distance. Who do you know who could.
He most likely knows more about how strong the threats against the country really are and cannot show our enemies where we are weak. I believe he is a patriot and therefor I will stand with him even with this error. Hopefully the base will realize what Trump is up against and turn out to keep him in the game.
Right now I cannot see anyone else who could replace Trump that would fight the swamp. Don't let Ryan and McConnell and the libs keep you home on election day. This is the key no matter how pissed you are.
Keep your cool and don't let them out maneuver us. Turn out in force, or face the alternative.
I think Trump is pretty slick. His goal is the bring down the Fed and there is no better way than pushing the debt level up until it can't take it anymore and it collapses. With China averting the petro dollar and not buying US treasuries the debt cannot be funded and the Fed has no move. Other countries will not buy our debt either and they won't need to hold dollars to buy oil anymore. If raising the debt and placing tariffs on China works the Fed's fiat currency system will explode.
America will be forced to issue their own currency and rebuild from within with jobs and production consumed at home. Very painful times ahead with soaring inflation and limited goods available but we will finally be free of the Fed's system. The only way to destroy the Fed and be free again is expanding the debt very quickly now while everyone is already borrowed to the hilt. There is no better way to use the debt expansion than the military. I think it's pretty slick how he did it so he didn't tip his hand at his end game. The timing is perfect as well. Hold on it's going to be a heck of a ride.
I think Trump is pretty slick. His goal is the bring down the Fed and there is no better way than pushing the debt level up until it can't take it anymore and it collapses. With China averting the petro dollar and not buying US treasuries the debt cannot be funded and the Fed has no move. Other countries will not buy our debt either and they won't need to hold dollars to buy oil anymore. If raising the debt and placing tariffs on China works the Fed's fiat currency system will explode.
America will be forced to issue their own currency and rebuild from within with jobs and production consumed at home. Very painful times ahead with soaring inflation and limited goods available but we will finally be free of the Fed's system. The only way to destroy the Fed and be free again is expanding the debt very quickly now while everyone is already borrowed to the hilt. There is no better way to use the debt expansion than the military. I think it's pretty slick how he did it so he didn't tip his hand at his end game. The timing is perfect as well. Hold on it going to be a heck of a ride.
I think Trump is pretty slick. His goal is the bring down the Fed and there is no better way than pushing the debt level up until it can't take it anymore and it collapses. With China averting the petro dollar and not buying US treasuries the debt cannot be funded and the Fed has no move. Other countries will not buy our debt either and they won't need to hold dollars to buy oil anymore. If raising the debt and placing tariffs on China works the Fed's fiat currency system will explode.
America will be forced to issue their own currency and rebuild from within with jobs and production consumed at home. Very painful times ahead with soaring inflation and limited goods available but we will finally be free of the Fed's system. The only way to destroy the Fed and be free again is expanding the debt very quickly now while everyone is already borrowed to the hilt. There is no better way to use the debt expansion than the military. I think it's pretty slick how he did it so he didn't tip his hand at his end game. The timing is perfect as well. Hold on it going to be a heck of a ride.
sure its bad Trump signed it,but his veto would have done nothing but pissed congress off more, he did save the military budget. its hard to do things right when half the republicans are in with the democrats. hopefully we keep a republican congress and Ryan lose`s his position in congress for good ! Trump has a tuff next 3 years but Trump is no bodies fool either,don`t give up on President Trump just yet,let`s hope he can get some miracles done. build the wall,get rid of illegals,put Hillary and bill in jail, no more money to over sea`s ?
None of this will ever happen now, and Trump has no-one to blame but himself. Because of him, any chance in November are gone. Had he used his veto power, his base would have fought with him. That wont happen now. The worst part of the entire fiasco is that the worst is yet to come......just wait until everything thats in the bill becomes known! All this talk of Trump playing chess in a checkers game is pure delusional.....he got his negotiating hat handed to him big time. The swamp didnt just buy him a ticket, they sent him a cab...
I really don't know why he made that move and it's not something I believe in. I do think he didn't do it to erode our rights to bear arms though. Great question though. Again he is pretty slick and I don't understand his choice.
If he gets clobbered by the richest man in the world, Jeff Bezos; I sure hope he doesn't end up eating top ramen for breakfast, lunch and dinner. He's just not used to a diet like that. I bet he'd get the drizzles.
I really don't know why he made that move and it's not something I believe in. I do think he didn't do it to erode our rights to bear arms though. Great question though. Again he is pretty slick and I don't understand his choice.
Maybe he should have read it before he signed it then.......http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/betrayal-how-the-republicans-are-gutting-the-second-amendment_03232018
The illegals need to be stopped but that can be accomplished without a physical wall. Wall's have never worked in history. The swamp will be drained when someone turns states evidence. As the Fed falls there will be a lot of angry people trying to save their own neck.
The problem with that is the number of regular guys that fall with it.
This very true but how long do you think the current system will go on? All fiat currency eventually reaches it true value and that is zero. President Kennedy was shot for trying to get rid of the Fed and Trump is very much aware. I feel he has true guts and I doubt his base will erode as time moves on.
I was particularly fond of that brilliant strategic maneuver he executed by saying he’d veto it AFTER republicans had gone on record as supporting it.
Might have gotten better results had he said that BEFORE they did so they could use that leverage to get consessions? Doesn’t really garner confidence on their part that he won’t turn on em in a heartbeat on other stuff too.
I think Trump is pretty slick. His goal is the bring down the Fed and there is no better way than pushing the debt level up until it can't take it anymore and it collapses. With China averting the petro dollar and not buying US treasuries the debt cannot be funded and the Fed has no move. Other countries will not buy our debt either and they won't need to hold dollars to buy oil anymore. If raising the debt and placing tariffs on China works the Fed's fiat currency system will explode.
America will be forced to issue their own currency and rebuild from within with jobs and production consumed at home. Very painful times ahead with soaring inflation and limited goods available but we will finally be free of the Fed's system. The only way to destroy the Fed and be free again is expanding the debt very quickly now while everyone is already borrowed to the hilt. There is no better way to use the debt expansion than the military. I think it's pretty slick how he did it so he didn't tip his hand at his end game. The timing is perfect as well. Hold on it going to be a heck of a ride.
I was particularly fond of that brilliant strategic maneuver he executed by saying he’d veto it AFTER republicans had gone on record as supporting it.
Might have gotten better results had he said that BEFORE they did so they could use that leverage to get consessions? Doesn’t really garner confidence on their part that he won’t turn on em in a heartbeat on other stuff too.
One day, ya'll will own up to the fact that DJT really at least as dumb as he seems. All this crap about 4D chess is as clueless as the Emperor with no clothes. The parallels are remarkable in the extreme.
I was particularly fond of that brilliant strategic maneuver he executed by saying he’d veto it AFTER republicans had gone on record as supporting it.
Might have gotten better results had he said that BEFORE they did so they could use that leverage to get consessions? Doesn’t really garner confidence on their part that he won’t turn on em in a heartbeat on other stuff too.
One day, ya'll will own up to the fact that DJT really at least as dumb as he seems. All this crap about 4D chess is as clueless as the Emperor with no clothes. The parallels are remarkable in the extreme.
Carry on...
My thoughts for some time. While "successful" running his own little business he ain't anything remotely close to being CEO capable of any major domestic or international corporation. Rex made his mind spin I am sure. Trump doesn't know what it takes to make a real deal. We shall see what the future brings.
I had very high hopes for a Trump presidency, hopefully 8 years of one. I wanted to see a SCOTUS full of conservative judges, border security that kept the damned illegals out, protection of our Second Amendment rights, and a huge cut in spending by the Feds. A little over one year after being in office, it's not looking as rosy as I'd hoped. In addition, there is very real possibility that the GOP could lose either the Senate or the House, or both, and that does not bode well for the rest of his term.
People running for office often say things they don't mean. They're no different from the teenage boy in the back seat of his car who promises the girl that if she'll just let him do it, that he'll marry her, or never tell, or pull it out before it's too late........anything to get what he wants. Trump promised a lot, and so far hasn't been able to deliver a lot.
I think he's been hampered by the Mueller investigation, and all the publicity, and by the huge turnover rate of his staff. I also believe he was woefully unprepared for the job. Running the country is not like running a private business.
However......I also thank God that I don't have watch the news and see that old prune faced hag Hillary being addressed as Madame President. That definitely helps put a damper on the disappointment I've felt over Trump.
One day, ya'll will own up to the fact that DJT really at least as dumb as he seems. All this crap about 4D chess is as clueless as the Emperor with no clothes. The parallels are remarkable in the extreme.
It was trump or hillary; and I'd bet 100 Hillary's twat looks like a cow paddy with a wagon track down the middle of it.
My thoughts for some time. While "successful" running his own little business he ain't anything remotely close to being CEO capable of any major domestic or international corporation. Rex made his mind spin I am sure. Trump doesn't know what it takes to make a real deal. We shall see what the future brings.
Trump has never been a successful business man. He was born with a silver spoon - or rather a 24 ct gold spoon - in his mouth and he learned how to make noise and attract attention. He was, and is, Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian, before there was a Paris or a Kim. He's just a whore to cameras and microphones.
What he calls is "businesses" are generally run by other companies which he simply lends his name to. He's a brand, not a businessman. I can't believe how people have fallen for this.
It is disappointing but if the democrats get the House and Senate back in November, Defense won't get a dime for the next 2 years and we will have Obama care back. The country is in a mess and the democrats drove it there starting with LBJ and his great society. Everyone is on the tit and no one wants to give it up.
kwg
And we will be extremely lucky if we don't get a Demonrat president in 2020 that is even further left than The Muslim was, like Cuomo or Gavin Newsome.
And we will be extremely lucky if we don't get a Demonrat president in 2020 that is even further left than The Muslim was, like Cuomo or Gavin Newsome.
The stage is being set....................
Don't look any farther than Jeff Bezos. That's right, the Amazon dood Everyone loves him. Free shipping too.
It is disappointing but if the democrats get the House and Senate back in November, Defense won't get a dime for the next 2 years and we will have Obama care back. The country is in a mess and the democrats drove it there starting with LBJ and his great society. Everyone is on the tit and no one wants to give it up.
kwg
And we will be extremely lucky if we don't get a Demonrat president in 2020 that is even further left than The Muslim was, like Cuomo or Gavin Newsome.
The stage is being set....................
MM
Exactly! We ain't seen nothin' yet. What goes around, comes around, as the saying goes.
don't be so glum kids, at least the stock market is doing GREAT!
Sycamore
Sell while it's up & take your profits while you can; market is heavily overvalued & companies are selling at insane multiples..............not gonna last a whole lot longer.
don't be so glum kids, at least the stock market is doing GREAT!
Sycamore
Sell while it's up & take your profits while you can; market is heavily overvalued & companies are selling at insane multiples..............not gonna last a whole lot longer.
Congress can pull this shat on Trump, but they'd *never* be able ta do it on EdM.
When did Trump become such a god like figure? I don’t get it.
I voted for the guy 2x and would do it again.
Does criticizing him mean we’re somehow betraying something? If so, I hope it’s bigger than him cuz I’ve alwsys been a principals guy not into cults of personality.
Since when does criticism in politics... on the Internet... require that one be able to do better?? That’s utterly retarded...
I got behind him but deep down it was not my first choice for sure
as a country we are screwed
We cant find a decent person who respects the people and the country to leads it
Just a bunch of azz bags Hank
Amen Hank.
I loved how he stuck it to the media. It made great sense that being a good businessman he’d pick good people to work with him and let them do their jobs with minimal interference.
I really hated Cruz’s whining and after RP dropped out he was the only somewhat Conservative candidate left.
I still have high hopes that Trump can learn as he goes. I don’t think he is an idiot but I do think that this idea out there that he is some sort of genius is retarded. He could definitely do better if he’d go with that thought that attracted me... hire good people to work for him, stand back and do what he is told while using twitter to drive an agenda in cahoots with Conservatives like Rand Paul and Ben Sasse.
I think Trump gave it to us straight. He didn't like the bill, but signed it so that we can strengthen our military at a critical time. He, more than anyone else, realizes what we are looking at as far as serious international threats are concerned, and our current military capability to respond to them. Look at how he has reshuffled his cabinet and who the strategic thinkers are.
Trump is getting ready to play some serious hardball, and doesn't want to waste six months or a year of political bickering getting his tools ready to do so. And yes, I WILL vote for him again.
I agree with Trump signing it. Couldn't afford not to with all the volatility in the air re potential trade disputes.
He created the trade disputes. Talk about not being able to play chess...
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I suspect that next week he will be pushing to exempt military spending from Continuing resolution financing. THEN, he can veto the next POS CR.
that won't work either. He can't negotiate his way out of a paper bag.
maybe....stay tuned....pretty soon we'll be hearing "I was forced to sign this POS bill because our military is held hostage to CR financing"....
if the military can be exempted from it, that is a BFD going forward in this chitty process.
if that happens, then he and the military will break this country exactly the way we broke the Soviet Union. We made them spend themselves to death. If we repeat that mistake we will suffer the same fate. We already have - by miles and miles - the biggest military the biggest portion of our budget devote to the military and we don't need DJT fishing for a war to call his own - not in the Middle East with Iran or the West Pacific with gopher-boy. the way he is going, we will have both.
Congress can pull this shat on Trump, but they'd *never* be able ta do it on EdM.
When did Trump become such a god like figure? I don’t get it.
I voted for the guy 2x and would do it again.
Does criticizing him mean we’re somehow betraying something? If so, I hope it’s bigger than him cuz I’ve alwsys been a principals guy not into cults of personality.
Since when does criticism in politics... on the Internet... require that one be able to do better?? That’s utterly retarded...
efw,
Now you're on to something! Both parties count on their voters to NEVER criticize "their man" . Once they get in they get a free pass from the voters that elected them! Stupid.
People pat themselves on the back for getting off their ass once every four years and voting for the lesser of two evils, then sit right back on their ass and excuse their laziness by saying "at least it isn't so-and-so".
People pat themselves on the back for getting off their ass once every four years and voting for the lesser of two evils, then sit right back on their ass and excuse their laziness by saying "at least it isn't so-and-so".
It happens with both parties.
Sycamore
Yup. Clinton 1.0 is an excellent example on the other side.
My Girl friend read something today about the Chess game.
The Corps. of Engineers is part of our military and as such the Corps. of Engineers can build the wall to protect our Domestic security from foreign threats.
We can only hope.
And for tyhe guy who said walls never work.
I think the Great wall of China has worked out pretty well for China for hundereds of years.
Why do we need more military spending? We spend now more than the next ten biggest military spending countries in the world combined. The Deep State wants more military spending so we can fight Israel’s wars in the Middle East. It’s not for us.
Right now I cannot see anyone else who could replace Trump that would fight the swamp. Don't let Ryan and McConnell and the libs keep you home on election day. This is the key no matter how pissed you are.
Keep your cool and don't let them out maneuver us. Turn out in force, or face the alternative.
The point is, it doesn't matter how we vote or who we elect. it's always the same [bleep].
Chuck Schumer cheered the bill: “In a certain sense we were able to accomplish more in the minority than we had the presidency or were even in the majority.”
Chuck Schumer cheered the bill: “In a certain sense we were able to accomplish more in the minority than we had the presidency or were even in the majority.”
That speaks volumes..........absolutely no use for either Ryan or McConnell.
Chuck Schumer cheered the bill: “In a certain sense we were able to accomplish more in the minority than we had the presidency or were even in the majority.”
It's almost like someone convinced the white working class to vote for life long Democrat from New York City for president!
Like a guy who made his living telling people what they wanted to hear, like in Real Estate, or Reality TV.
Chuck Schumer cheered the bill: “In a certain sense we were able to accomplish more in the minority than we had the presidency or were even in the majority.”
It's almost like someone convinced the white working class to vote for life long Democrat from New York City for president!
Like a guy who made his living telling people what they wanted to hear, like in Real Estate, or Reality TV.
This makes it pretty clear there is no way to save the Country through the ballot box. I'm done voting period. It's pointless.
There is still hope. Certain members of congress voted against this abortion. They even called it an abortion before trumpy signed it. This is why a voting record is so important. It helps educated people so they can make good voting decisions.
Trump just f-ed .......the Playboy chic and the porn star.... And US .....I'm not going to swallow like them....baby killers an NPR' s version CNN…..WON........
This makes it pretty clear there is no way to save the Country through the ballot box. I'm done voting period. It's pointless.
Lower unemployment, higher wages, less folks on welfare, more home ownership, more military planes and helicopters repaired to flight status, steel made in the US, no obama mandate, cars made in the US, ICE rounding up illegal dimocraps, lowest unemployment in 50 years- yeah, lets jump off a cliff like lemmings.
Its the end of the world i tell ya, well at least if we loose the House this year.
This makes it pretty clear there is no way to save the Country through the ballot box. I'm done voting period. It's pointless.
I been toying with this for a while ...it never changes... Voting is a like a feather in the wind to a coyote..... It works for some ..others get wacker...we just got wacked
This makes it pretty clear there is no way to save the Country through the ballot box. I'm done voting period. It's pointless.
I been toying with this for a while ...it never changes... Voting is a like a feather in the wind to a coyote..... It works for some ..others get wacker...we just got wacked
Wrong. You have never been whacked in your life. You know what whacked is? Lose some legs in Afghanistan under some rules of engagement that doesnt let you fire back until you watch a round come in and hit your humvee or tank. Get a cancer Dx. Lose a kid to a drunk illegal dimocrap. Get Hillary in office.
Me, im going to work next week and im going to Church Sunday and Im going coyote hunting tommorow- with my fuggin guns.
PS. Im eating bacon tomorrow, not dog, cat, or zoo raised hippo or rat, like the suckers in Venezuela.
All of this sentiment is exactly why we need an article 5 convention of the states. To make it clear to DC that we are wise to the fact that they just pander to us, they'll just do whatever the hell they want and then guilt us into voting for more of the same over and over again by saying if we don't, we're only supporting the enemy. How long do we have to keep doing the same thing and keep falling for the same scam before we grab them by the balls and push some mandates from the states down THEIR throat for a change?
All of this sentiment is exactly why we need an article 5 convention of the states. To make it clear to DC that we are wise to the fact that they just pander to us, they'll just do whatever the hell they want and then guilt us into voting for more of the same over and over again by saying if we don't, we're only supporting the enemy. How long do we have to keep doing the same thing and keep falling for the same scam before we grab them by the balls and push some mandates from the states down THEIR throat for a change?
Forget it Peddler. The [bleep] think the have it bad. They been incensed. They been screwed.
Wait until Obamalite gets in the WH again and then we can listen to them piss and moan again.
I bet Zero couldnt buy a mess of watermelon with the money these guys sent in to get rid of a Rino senator who sent this crap to Trump, precisely to have such ilk bend over for them to get rid of Trump, just as they planned.
Their horse faltered in the flooding river and though they cant swim they think its time to learn. How predictable.
Very disappointed he signed the spending bill. Obviously we don't know why he did. Could it have to do with the upcoming talks with NK? With the Iranian nuclear agreement. Maybe like someone said funding for the wall is linked to military spending. The money has been allocated but that doesn't mean it has been spent or that it must be spent. Don't know who actually signs off on the expenditure. Still very disappointing. I would have preferred an extended government shutdown.
Pres. Trump just lost my vote for 2020. If he can't stand up to the feral judges who block everything he tries to accomplish then what good is he as Chief Executive? He should be barking at the Senate to indict/arrest/convict/disbar those feral judges who legislate from the bench.
I'm done with Trump, he's a fuggin' joke with NO power, at this point.......and to hell with congress, I can only hope that Vlad Putin drops a high-yield nuke square on the Crapitol Building dome and rid us of those vermin.
Pres. Trump just lost my vote for 2020. If he can't stand up to the feral judges who block everything he tries to accomplish then what good is he as Chief Executive? He should be barking at the Senate to indict/arrest/convict/disbar those feral judges who legislate from the bench.
I'm done with Trump, he's a fuggin' joke with NO power, at this point.......and to hell with congress, I can only hope that Vlad Putin drops a high-yield nuke square on the Crapitol Building dome and rid us of those vermin.
Pres. Trump just lost my vote for 2020. If he can't stand up to the feral judges who block everything he tries to accomplish then what good is he as Chief Executive? He should be barking at the Senate to indict/arrest/convict/disbar those feral judges who legislate from the bench.
I'm done with Trump, he's a fuggin' joke with NO power, at this point.......and to hell with congress, I can only hope that Vlad Putin drops a high-yield nuke square on the Crapitol Building dome and rid us of those vermin.
So you are hoping Russia nukes us?
Folks are unhinged.
Reminds me of "it is my bat and ball and I am going home!".
Very disappointed he signed the spending bill. Obviously we don't know why he did. Could it have to do with the upcoming talks with NK? With the Iranian nuclear agreement. Maybe like someone said funding for the wall is linked to military spending. The money has been allocated but that doesn't mean it has been spent or that it must be spent. Don't know who actually signs off on the expenditure. Still very disappointing. I would have preferred an extended government shutdown.
Me too. I would have preferred a stronger horse, like Christ. Maybe He will be here soon. Until then, i'll stick with the Don.
Leah Roy, try some Kool-Aid instead of cock. Then get back with us and give us a report.
I never knew a dimocrap like you who wouldnt turn quueerr for a six pack of beer.
Do you praise Jesus with that mouth?
Or are you just a weekend christian?
Just asking for a friend.....
Praise and glory be to Jesus Christ who forgave, interceeded and saved a reprobate poc no good worthless sinner like me. Thank you Jesus Christ in Heaven for having mercy and preparing, up there, a place for me. Amen.
Honest question: What parts of the spending bill are anti-gun?
Our government is like a young couple spending way beyond their means because they have access to credit. That was going on way before President Trump arrived. Every time we shut down the government, we lose. It also hurts a lot of folks who are depending on a check for services rendered. Congress is not going to come up with an intelligent spending bill or Budget overnight, even if they are willing to try. So what was Trump going to do?
As it is, this will be re-visited very shortly. The Executive Branch doesn't write legislation.
I have not read through this thread in it's entirety............. But.
Should TRUMP have VETOED?? My gut is yes, with a 'now get back to work and write a real spending Bill'
Would that have occupied the News for the next two months......... probably! All because TRUMP shut the GOV down over............. pick your favorite DEM talking point....
So he's damned if does and damed if he doesn't.............. He sure as chitt ain't gettin' much help from the REPs..............
Is it possible, as unpalatable as this spending measure is, that it is better to have it out of the way for THIS???
I'll answer my own question: Leaving out stuff other than guns, it appears the Bill contained the NICS fix and also allowances for the CDC to study guns as they do tobacco. It should have been vetoed on the NICS fix alone.
He should have vetoed it, but he would have been overridden most likely.
This was a real frickin hit job by Paul Ryan and Turtle McConnell. They backed Trump into the corner in this one. If he vetoed it, it would have played well with us, his base but it would have been an open declaration of war against the RINOs in Congress. And with the midterms coming up that could have very well meant a Democratic Congress and he will spend the next two years fighting off impeachment proceedings.
Right now, he is being attacked on all fronts all the time. I’ll keep the faith for now. I’ve seen this magnificent orange bastard bounce back and come out swinging too many times by now to ever count him out.
I like Trump. I don't like people who believe he is God. He's just a guy.
Yeah, that's me too.....which is why I like to call those people as being "Trump's Monica." No matter what he does, they get all giggly and goo-goo, and get a tingle down their leg, and tell us how great a chess player he is, and that we dummies just don't see what he's really doing. Trump is nowhere close to being the smartest man in the room, and he is a typical rich person, in thinking that his money allows him to do as he pleases. With that being said, I want him to lead this country down the path towards getting back some of what we lost during the past 20 years or so. He had the opportunity to do so when he took office, having the GOP running the whole shebang. He made campaign promises, and he has yet to act on them, and that's why I voted for the man.
I'll answer my own question: Leaving out stuff other than guns, it appears the Bill contained the NICS fix and also allowances for the CDC to study guns as they do tobacco. It should have been vetoed on the NICS fix alone.
Only if we had a president that didn't want gun control in the first place...
I'll answer my own question: Leaving out stuff other than guns, it appears the Bill contained the NICS fix and also allowances for the CDC to study guns as they do tobacco. It should have been vetoed on the NICS fix alone.
Only if we had a president that didn't want gun control in the first place...
What dimension of chess is he playing now?
I have supported Trump on nearly everything he's done, but I don't support him on this. I have said before, some of the stuff he's said is baffling. I have not stated that he's playing any sort of chess-those are other posters. My support or lack thereof, is generally pretty straightforward, based upon the actions of an individual first and foremost and secondly on what they say especially if there is no record of what they've done. So I don't know what dimension of chess, checkers, Old Maid or the like is being played.
I'll answer my own question: Leaving out stuff other than guns, it appears the Bill contained the NICS fix and also allowances for the CDC to study guns as they do tobacco. It should have been vetoed on the NICS fix alone.
Only if we had a president that didn't want gun control in the first place...
What dimension of chess is he playing now?
I have supported Trump on nearly everything he's done, but I don't support him on this. I have said before, some of the stuff he's said is baffling. I have not stated that he's playing any sort of chess-those are other posters. My support or lack thereof, is generally pretty straightforward, based upon the actions of an individual first and foremost and secondly on what they say especially if there is no record of what they've done. So I don't know what dimension of chess, checkers, Old Maid or the like is being played.
It would help if he'd just speak plainly and say what he means, and mean what he says.
The games are getting old.
Especially when he signed gun control bills that Obama never had the chance to sign.
I'll answer my own question: Leaving out stuff other than guns, it appears the Bill contained the NICS fix and also allowances for the CDC to study guns as they do tobacco. It should have been vetoed on the NICS fix alone.
Only if we had a president that didn't want gun control in the first place...
What dimension of chess is he playing now?
I have supported Trump on nearly everything he's done, but I don't support him on this. I have said before, some of the stuff he's said is baffling. I have not stated that he's playing any sort of chess-those are other posters. My support or lack thereof, is generally pretty straightforward, based upon the actions of an individual first and foremost and secondly on what they say especially if there is no record of what they've done. So I don't know what dimension of chess, checkers, Old Maid or the like is being played.
It would help if he'd just speak plainly and say what he means, and mean what he says.
The games are getting old.
Especially when he signed gun control bills that Obama never had the chance to sign.
Have to admit that is puzzling, kind of like Malcom Fraser capitulating to the unions here and their best friend Bob Hawk bending them over and using no lubricant.
Sometimes you cannot pick what people will or won't do.
Chess my ass the bastard lied to us caved to the dems and thru his most loyal supporters under the bus. Freedom once lost is very seldom regained. Tell me again what a great negotiator he is then show me what we got in return for more gun control. Sorry to say it appears that it makes no difference who we support it may take a little longer but we will lose it all in the end. Congratulations Mr President you just turned Pennsylvania blue again. Watch the midterms the dems will have both houses and Trump will be a lame duck for the rest of his term. And before you call me a anti Trumper look back at my posts i had great hopes for this guy my disappointment is beyond profound.
I'll answer my own question: Leaving out stuff other than guns, it appears the Bill contained the NICS fix and also allowances for the CDC to study guns as they do tobacco. It should have been vetoed on the NICS fix alone.
No change to the CDC from what I've heard. It just reiterates that they can study gun violence, which they always could. They still aren't allowed to advocate for gun control.
Chess my ass the bastard lied to us caved to the dems and thru his most loyal supporters under the buss. Freedom once lost is very seldom regained. Tell me again what a great negotiator he is then show me what we got in return for more gun control. Sorry to say it appears that it makes no difference who we support it may take a little longer but we will lose it all in the end. Congratulations Mr President you just turned Pennsylvania blue again. Watch the midterms the dems will have both houses and Trump will be a lame duck for the rest of his term. And before you call me a anti Trumper look back at my posts i had great hopes for this guy my disappointment is beyond profound.
Unfortunately, the above states exactly how I feel today.
Instead of national concealed carry reciprocity, I find that my tax dollars are funding gun control brain washing and more restrictions on law abiding gun owners. President Trump put together a great coalition - and is rapidly pissing it all way.