I just got a call from a good friend, he and his dog were attacked by a pit bull today. He was taken by ambulance to a major trauma center here, bypassing two other hospitals. He said he's OK but feels like there is some serious damage to his one arm, at a minimum. He may have been in shock when he called.
His son has taken the dog to an emergency vet. The dog was in tough shape and was just spayed this past week.
He asked me to give him a ride home from the hospital when he's all bandaged up.........
Got two pitbulls across the street. So far no issues. Except for the people a few houses down that called the doggie cops on him. $400 to bust them out of dog jail.
Now....we have another noob across further down with a pair dobermans that will come out of the yard and put up a pretty good bluff. They’ll charge and stop at 10ft.
I need to put on a halloween mask, and carry a tobacco stick over there and see what they’ll really do.
I always wanted to rent a mountain lion for a few days. I remember dealing with pitbulls on some roofing jobs. Yappity yappity yap yap, with their squeaky barks.
There is a reason I carry a big stick, a good easy access knife, and a Glock 27 when I walk my dog, my dog is a 65 lb Belgian Malinois who could probably put up a decent defense, but why take chances.
Not doubting your word. Just questioning the temperment of the Rotts.
when I was in my early twenties had friends who had both, they fought them and bet on it to settle the argument about which would win. the rotts had the advantage early on but tired much quicker than the pits, couldn't outlast them. if the rotts had got a good hold early it could have gone the other way.
Pit Bulls Are The Official Dog of Mayhem: Animal organizations, shelters, and rescuers save pit bulls at the expense of other animals and people. Don't listen to their "advice." They only care about pit bulls, not anyone else. There are thousands of news accounts of these constantly occurring attacks.
Pit Bulls Are The Official Dog of Mayhem. Here we go again and again and again. If we can’t have cougars as pets, then we shouldn’t be able to have pit bull type-dogs.
I agree all dogs can bite. The issue with pit bulls is the degree of damage they inflict, and their attacks being more likely to result in fatality.
PEOPLE WAKE-UP AND LISTEN TO THE MEDICAL EXPERTS NOT TO NAIVE PIT BULL OWNERS!
13 Medical peer-reviewed studies that prove pit bull type-dogs are dangerous as pets. Level 1 trauma center dog bite studies from all geographical regions in the U.S. are reporting a higher prevalence of pit bull type dogs injuries than all other breeds of dogs. In many cases, the studies (2011 to 2018) also report that pit bull injuries have a higher severity of injury and require a greater number of operative interventions. https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-studies-level-1
THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY STATES TO KEEP CHILDREN AWAY FROM PIT BULLS!
Does this sound like a normal and safe dog breed to have live in our neighborhoods? Pit Bull Rescue Central recommends ALL pit bull owners to have a "break stick", a wedge-shaped piece of wood used to pry open a pit bull’s jaw during an attack. "Since pit bulls have a strong fighting background, we recommend that pet owners also have a breaking stick as a precaution." blog.dogsbite.org/2008/09/break-sticks-tool-used-to-pry-open
Common Sense: Pit bulls have been bred for centuries for illegal blood sports. They are the #1 canine killer of people, pets and livestock of all dog breeds combined. They have a genetically inbred trait for unpredictable explosive aggression that cannot ever be trained out of them. Simple noises and movement can trigger the pit bull's prey drive into a deadly attack. This is not a safe breed trait to have in a family pet. They were bred to be lethal and they are every day. We need breed safety laws to keep our communities safe.
2 days ago the growler [wife] and I encountered a very large pit off the leash on a mountain trail. I was ready to do a mag dump on it but the big smile and wagging tail deterred me. I think it is kind of like people, target ID is important. I told the owners that they were lucky that their dog was still alive, they thought that it was funny and that their dog was a lover. If your dog is off the leash he is a potential target.
2 days ago the growler [wife] and I encountered a very large pit off the leash on a mountain trail. I was ready to do a mag dump on it but the big smile and wagging tail deterred me. I think it is kind of like people, target ID is important. I told the owners that they were lucky that their dog was still alive, they thought that it was funny and that their dog was a lover. If your dog is off the leash he is a potential target.
mike r
They say that dogs "can smell fear" and it is true. If you had been a weakling that was scared then Fido might have attacked. He sensed that you were ready, willing and able to fight back so he decided on "peace, love, flowers, and incense."
Not doubting your word. Just questioning the temperment of the Rotts.
when I was in my early twenties had friends who had both, they fought them and bet on it to settle the argument about which would win. the rotts had the advantage early on but tired much quicker than the pits, couldn't outlast them. if the rotts had got a good hold early it could have gone the other way.
I have friends and acquaintances in another state. They have very good, close knowledge of the underground dog fighting circle. The fights are all pit bull -vs- pit bull. The one (closest) friend also is a Rott breeder. He produces pups that are of the VERY highest quality and the vast majority of them go to be service dogs. We have one of his pups........a 2 year old male that goes right around 110 lbs and has the "alpha male" temperament. He's not done bulking yet.
Anyhoo............. Me and him were talking one day and I really don't know the exact lead up to this quote.........but this is exactly what he said to me.......... " I know pit bulls. They ain't a pit bull in this state stand a chance against one of these Rotts".
Just passing on what I was told by a man intimately knowledgeable to both sides. Mine has never had to right a pit bull. But I would NOT put my $$ on the pit bull if it happened.
Not doubting your word. Just questioning the temperment of the Rotts.
when I was in my early twenties had friends who had both, they fought them and bet on it to settle the argument about which would win. the rotts had the advantage early on but tired much quicker than the pits, couldn't outlast them. if the rotts had got a good hold early it could have gone the other way.
I have friends and acquaintances in another state. They have very good, close knowledge of the underground dog fighting circle. The fights are all pit bull -vs- pit bull. The one (closest) friend also is a Rott breeder. He produces pups that are of the VERY highest quality and the vast majority of them go to be service dogs. We have one of his pups........a 2 year old male that goes right around 110 lbs and has the "alpha male" temperament. He's not done bulking yet.
Anyhoo............. Me and him were talking one day and I really don't know the exact lead up to this quote.........but this is exactly what he said to me.......... " I know pit bulls. They ain't a pit bull in this state stand a chance against one of these Rotts".
Just passing on what I was told by a man intimately knowledgeable to both sides. Mine has never had to right a pit bull. But I would NOT put my $$ on the pit bull if it happened.
Not doubting your word. Just questioning the temperment of the Rotts.
when I was in my early twenties had friends who had both, they fought them and bet on it to settle the argument about which would win. the rotts had the advantage early on but tired much quicker than the pits, couldn't outlast them. if the rotts had got a good hold early it could have gone the other way.
I have friends and acquaintances in another state. They have very good, close knowledge of the underground dog fighting circle. The fights are all pit bull -vs- pit bull. The one (closest) friend also is a Rott breeder. He produces pups that are of the VERY highest quality and the vast majority of them go to be service dogs. We have one of his pups........a 2 year old male that goes right around 110 lbs and has the "alpha male" temperament. He's not done bulking yet.
Anyhoo............. Me and him were talking one day and I really don't know the exact lead up to this quote.........but this is exactly what he said to me.......... " I know pit bulls. They ain't a pit bull in this state stand a chance against one of these Rotts".
Just passing on what I was told by a man intimately knowledgeable to both sides. Mine has never had to right a pit bull. But I would NOT put my $$ on the pit bull if it happened.
2 days ago the growler [wife] and I encountered a very large pit off the leash on a mountain trail. I was ready to do a mag dump on it but the big smile and wagging tail deterred me. I think it is kind of like people, target ID is important. I told the owners that they were lucky that their dog was still alive, they thought that it was funny and that their dog was a lover. If your dog is off the leash he is a potential target.
Neighbor has one that got loose the other night. Wake up to the wife screaming go home to the dog then the neighbor hollering drunk at his dog. Matter of time until that dog meets 230 hardball and 45 auto colt pistol the same evening.
There's a solution to pit bulls that does not involve a gun.
They're called Rottweilers. Just let go of the leash and watch them do what they do.
Wanna consistently stop a Pit Bull using another dog? Better think in the neighborhood of a Kurdish Kangal, Anitolian Shepherd, Caucasian Ovcharka etc. Very large flock guardians would be the way to go.
I hate to hear of this incident. I hope the guy and his dog will be o.k. Be careful out there, as this can happen anywhere. I don’t understand not carrying while out walking.
What's the best cartridge/load combination for a pit bull?
After eliminating anywhere from 4 to 10 a year for over 30 years I recommend any good deer bullet from 62 grain up from .223 up and 2500 fps up applied behind the front leg.
Old lady across the field has 2 pits. I wounded a coyote in the field and those 2 pits finished it off. It was brutal. They tried to attack me on my 4 wheeler one day. I out ran them and went home and loaded the smith 360pd with 125 hp 357s and took another ride down the same road. Lucky for them they weren't there anymore.
Their names are scooby and dooby and they've been in my yard a few times but not long enough for me to get a gun. Our neighborhood is filling in really quick so shooting is likely frowned on now but most of the neighbors don't like the pits running free either.
Scooby already bit one neighbor while she was jogging but the old lady keeps saying they would never hurt anyone. I need a suppressor for my kimber Adirondac in 300 BO just in case they get back onto my yard.
What's the best cartridge/load combination for a pit bull?
I know for a fact that a standard 5.56 AR will work.
Details requested...How many rounds did you let loose? What was your target area?...Head, heart, behind the shoulder or did you go with a Swiss Cheese look?
What's the best cartridge/load combination for a pit bull?
After eliminating anywhere from 4 to 10 a year for over 30 years I recommend any good deer bullet from 62 grain up from .223 up and 2500 fps up applied behind the front leg.
Sounds like high shoulder shots work....Mr. Hasting, how did you find yourself airing out 4-10 Pits a year?
SWAT Cop hitting drug houses would probably have that amount of contact with PB.
when I was in my early twenties had friends who had both, they fought them and bet on it to settle the argument about which would win. the rotts had the advantage early on but tired much quicker than the pits, couldn't outlast them. if the rotts had got a good hold early it could have gone the other way.
Only an evil idiot would have their dogs fight for any reason.
There's a solution to pit bulls that does not involve a gun.
They're called Rottweilers. Just let go of the leash and watch them do what they do.
Wanna consistently stop a Pit Bull using another dog? Better think in the neighborhood of a Kurdish Kangal, Anitolian Shepherd, Caucasian Ovcharka etc. Very large flock guardians would be the way to go.
Great advice, if a bunch of people start buying Rottweilers and Caucasian Ovcharkas and Turkish Kangals to protect them from pitbulls then we'll have an outbreak of Rottweiler and Caucasian Ovcharka and Turkish Kangal maulings.
Stick to the smaller and less harmless breeds and leave large dogs to those who require them, like the police. If you aren't a first responder and don't need to herd livestock you can probably don't need anything more than a Yorkie or Cocker Spaniel.
What a nice dog. I'm sure people will be a lot safer with a ton of these around.
Strange how a lot of libertarian-as-long-as-they-like-it people on this site would support a law prohibiting pitbulls but don't think about the natural extension of such a law if all pitbulls were suddenly replaced by Rotties or what-have-you.
We need a nationwide law for owners to assume all legal responsibility for their pets. Assoon as you see those dogs on your property shoot tokill......
There's a solution to pit bulls that does not involve a gun.
They're called Rottweilers. Just let go of the leash and watch them do what they do.
Wanna consistently stop a Pit Bull using another dog? Better think in the neighborhood of a Kurdish Kangal, Anitolian Shepherd, Caucasian Ovcharka etc. Very large flock guardians would be the way to go.
Great advice, if a bunch of people start buying Rottweilers and Caucasian Ovcharkas and Turkish Kangals to protect them from pitbulls then we'll have an outbreak of Rottweiler and Caucasian Ovcharka and Turkish Kangal maulings.
Stick to the smaller and less harmless breeds and leave large dogs to those who require them, like the police. If you aren't a first responder and don't need to herd livestock you can probably don't need anything more than a Yorkie or Cocker Spaniel.
What a nice dog. I'm sure people will be a lot safer with a ton of these around.
I’ve 2 half Anatolian half sarplaninac. They are not for everyone and not house dogs. But they aren’t pitbulls either. They are still bred for a purpose.
Pit Bulls Are The Official Dog of Mayhem: Animal organizations, shelters, and rescuers save pit bulls at the expense of other animals and people. Don't listen to their "advice." They only care about pit bulls, not anyone else. There are thousands of news accounts of these constantly occurring attacks.
Pit Bulls Are The Official Dog of Mayhem. Here we go again and again and again. If we can’t have cougars as pets, then we shouldn’t be able to have pit bull type-dogs.
I agree all dogs can bite. The issue with pit bulls is the degree of damage they inflict, and their attacks being more likely to result in fatality.
PEOPLE WAKE-UP AND LISTEN TO THE MEDICAL EXPERTS NOT TO NAIVE PIT BULL OWNERS!
13 Medical peer-reviewed studies that prove pit bull type-dogs are dangerous as pets. Level 1 trauma center dog bite studies from all geographical regions in the U.S. are reporting a higher prevalence of pit bull type dogs injuries than all other breeds of dogs. In many cases, the studies (2011 to 2018) also report that pit bull injuries have a higher severity of injury and require a greater number of operative interventions. https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-studies-level-1
THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY STATES TO KEEP CHILDREN AWAY FROM PIT BULLS!
Does this sound like a normal and safe dog breed to have live in our neighborhoods? Pit Bull Rescue Central recommends ALL pit bull owners to have a "break stick", a wedge-shaped piece of wood used to pry open a pit bull’s jaw during an attack. "Since pit bulls have a strong fighting background, we recommend that pet owners also have a breaking stick as a precaution." blog.dogsbite.org/2008/09/break-sticks-tool-used-to-pry-open
Common Sense: Pit bulls have been bred for centuries for illegal blood sports. They are the #1 canine killer of people, pets and livestock of all dog breeds combined. They have a genetically inbred trait for unpredictable explosive aggression that cannot ever be trained out of them. Simple noises and movement can trigger the pit bull's prey drive into a deadly attack. This is not a safe breed trait to have in a family pet. They were bred to be lethal and they are every day. We need breed safety laws to keep our communities safe.
I had read this one on another forum a while back and in the comments section was, “Their behavior is remarkably similar to black people “.
2 days ago the growler [wife] and I encountered a very large pit off the leash on a mountain trail. I was ready to do a mag dump on it but the big smile and wagging tail deterred me. I think it is kind of like people, target ID is important. I told the owners that they were lucky that their dog was still alive, they thought that it was funny and that their dog was a lover. If your dog is off the leash he is a potential target.
mike r
It does look like they are smiling with some of their facial expressions.
Not doubting your word. Just questioning the temperment of the Rotts.
when I was in my early twenties had friends who had both, they fought them and bet on it to settle the argument about which would win. the rotts had the advantage early on but tired much quicker than the pits, couldn't outlast them. if the rotts had got a good hold early it could have gone the other way.
I have friends and acquaintances in another state. They have very good, close knowledge of the underground dog fighting circle. The fights are all pit bull -vs- pit bull. The one (closest) friend also is a Rott breeder. He produces pups that are of the VERY highest quality and the vast majority of them go to be service dogs. We have one of his pups........a 2 year old male that goes right around 110 lbs and has the "alpha male" temperament. He's not done bulking yet.
Anyhoo............. Me and him were talking one day and I really don't know the exact lead up to this quote.........but this is exactly what he said to me.......... " I know pit bulls. They ain't a pit bull in this state stand a chance against one of these Rotts".
Just passing on what I was told by a man intimately knowledgeable to both sides. Mine has never had to right a pit bull. But I would NOT put my $$ on the pit bull if it happened.
Calling how many of either Pits or Rotts have you owned in your lifetime ?? What's your resume' of expertise or experience ??
I’ve 2 half Anatolian half sarplaninac. They are not for everyone and not house dogs. But they aren’t pitbulls either. They are still bred for a purpose.
It’s hard to believe those two are the same breed?
I’ve 2 half Anatolian half sarplaninac. They are not for everyone and not house dogs. But they aren’t pitbulls either. They are still bred for a purpose.
It’s hard to believe those two are the same breed?
The light colored one looks ok - the darker blueish grey - no way i'd trust that one .
I just got a call from a good friend, he and his dog were attacked by a pit bull today. He was taken by ambulance to a major trauma center here, bypassing two other hospitals. He said he's OK but feels like there is some serious damage to his one arm, at a minimum. He may have been in shock when he called.
His son has taken the dog to an emergency vet. The dog was in tough shape and was just spayed this past week.
He asked me to give him a ride home from the hospital when he's all bandaged up.........
Sue the (bleep) oughta the owner. Unfortunately the low life, like most pit owners, probably doesn't have any assets or insurance.
I’ve 2 half Anatolian half sarplaninac. They are not for everyone and not house dogs. But they aren’t pitbulls either. They are still bred for a purpose.
It’s hard to believe those two are the same breed?
The light colored one looks ok - the darker blueish grey - no way i'd trust that one .
Yah he’s an [bleep]. The pretty one thinks everyone likes to pet and have big ass hairy dogs lean on them
There's a solution to pit bulls that does not involve a gun.
They're called Rottweilers. Just let go of the leash and watch them do what they do.
Wanna consistently stop a Pit Bull using another dog? Better think in the neighborhood of a Kurdish Kangal, Anitolian Shepherd, Caucasian Ovcharka etc. Very large flock guardians would be the way to go.
Great advice, if a bunch of people start buying Rottweilers and Caucasian Ovcharkas and Turkish Kangals to protect them from pitbulls then we'll have an outbreak of Rottweiler and Caucasian Ovcharka and Turkish Kangal maulings.
Stick to the smaller and less harmless breeds and leave large dogs to those who require them, like the police. If you aren't a first responder and don't need to herd livestock you can probably don't need anything more than a Yorkie or Cocker Spaniel.
What a nice dog. I'm sure people will be a lot safer with a ton of these around.
My wife still has eye problems because of a Cocker Spaniel bite 50+ years ago.
I’ve 2 half Anatolian half sarplaninac. They are not for everyone and not house dogs. But they aren’t pitbulls either. They are still bred for a purpose.
It’s hard to believe those two are the same breed?
The light colored one looks ok - the darker blueish grey - no way i'd trust that one .
Yah he’s an [bleep]. The pretty one thinks everyone likes to pet and have big ass hairy dogs lean on them
I’ve 2 half Anatolian half sarplaninac. They are not for everyone and not house dogs. But they aren’t pitbulls either. They are still bred for a purpose.
It’s hard to believe those two are the same breed?
There's a solution to pit bulls that does not involve a gun.
They're called Rottweilers. Just let go of the leash and watch them do what they do.
Wanna consistently stop a Pit Bull using another dog? Better think in the neighborhood of a Kurdish Kangal, Anitolian Shepherd, Caucasian Ovcharka etc. Very large flock guardians would be the way to go.
Great advice, if a bunch of people start buying Rottweilers and Caucasian Ovcharkas and Turkish Kangals to protect them from pitbulls then we'll have an outbreak of Rottweiler and Caucasian Ovcharka and Turkish Kangal maulings.
Stick to the smaller and less harmless breeds and leave large dogs to those who require them, like the police. If you aren't a first responder and don't need to herd livestock you can probably don't need anything more than a Yorkie or Cocker Spaniel.
What a nice dog. I'm sure people will be a lot safer with a ton of these around.
My wife still has eye problems because of a Cocker Spaniel bite 50+ years ago.
Most outwardly aggressive dog I ever had in my life was an American Cocker.
I don't either, but they will work....personal experience. My preference would be a shotgun with smallish buckshot, say #2 or #3. FWIW, I do not tolerate aggressive dogs on my turf at any time. A mutt can wander by and I don't GAS, but snarling or barking trips my trigger.
What's the best cartridge/load combination for a pit bull?
After eliminating anywhere from 4 to 10 a year for over 30 years I recommend any good deer bullet from 62 grain up from .223 up and 2500 fps up applied behind the front leg.
Sounds like high shoulder shots work....Mr. Hasting, how did you find yourself airing out 4-10 Pits a year? SWAT Cop hitting drug houses would probably have that amount of contact with PB.😎
We have a few cattle on a little over a 100 acre pasture that abuts some black folks property on which there are many trailer houses and extended family. They own pits and pit hybrids such as chow cross, Alaskan Husky cross, and mixed in with Catahoula cur. All of which are catch dogs and they breed indiscriminately. Get the idea?
Despite the vile claims of dog breedists, science has shown that there is only one breed of dog: the dog breed. The fact that pit bulls are only 6.5% of the dog population and yet responsible for 74% of fatal dog attacks has nothing to do with breed. This is the result of poor dog training. If we want to stop pit bull attacks, we need to cut the breedist language and focus on giving more money to programs that train pit bulls not to kill so many human children. After all, there are mixed breeds of dogs, meaning that there is no such thing as breeds of dogs. There is no pure dog breed. You can help the pit bull struggle for liberation from breedism by becoming a pit bull ally, and standing up to people who claim that pit bull attacks are related to their breed. Arm yourself with the scientific facts that dog breeds are a social construct and all dogs are exactly the same. Then if you’re in public or among friends and family and you find someone saying that pit bulls are dangerous, shut them down. As long as pit bulls are being oppressed and disenfranchised because of unscientific theories about the existence of “breeds” of dogs, no dog will ever be free.
What's the best cartridge/load combination for a pit bull?
I know for a fact that a standard 5.56 AR will work.
Details requested...How many rounds did you let loose? What was your target area?...Head, heart, behind the shoulder or did you go with a Swiss Cheese look?
😬😎
Early one morning a few years back, when we were snowed in with almost a foot of snow, 2 Pits, from the white trash neighbors on the other side of the hill, chased one of my mom's (lives next door) dogs into her garage and were trying to kill him. She called me on the phone hollering & crying, and I took off out the door in pajama pants, Crocs, and my AR loaded with standard 55 grain FMJ. When I came around the corner of her car, they bowed up on me, so I just snapped off a round center mass on the closest. It didn't kill him immediately, but he wouldn't have lasted long. He staggered out in the yard wheezing & bubbling, and I finished him off with another round behind the shoulder. The other one was a schittin' and a gittin' around the corner, so I missed him. I've been patiently waiting ever since for a rematch with him, but that damned dog is smarter than he looks. He stays on the other side of the hill where I can't get a shot at him.
What's the best cartridge/load combination for a pit bull?
After eliminating anywhere from 4 to 10 a year for over 30 years I recommend any good deer bullet from 62 grain up from .223 up and 2500 fps up applied behind the front leg.
Sounds like high shoulder shots work....Mr. Hasting, how did you find yourself airing out 4-10 Pits a year? SWAT Cop hitting drug houses would probably have that amount of contact with PB.😎
We have a few cattle on a little over a 100 acre pasture that abuts some black folks property on which there are many trailer houses and extended family. They own pits and pit hybrids such as chow cross, Alaskan Husky cross, and mixed in with Catahoula cur. All of which are catch dogs and they breed indiscriminately. Get the idea?
My gut instinct reading that was 'I can't think of a worse dog to have near me/mine than a pit/chow cross.' George
Despite the vile claims of dog breedists, science has shown that there is only one breed of dog: the dog breed. The fact that pit bulls are only 6.5% of the dog population and yet responsible for 74% of fatal dog attacks has nothing to do with breed. This is the result of poor dog training. If we want to stop pit bull attacks, we need to cut the breedist language and focus on giving more money to programs that train pit bulls not to kill so many human children. After all, there are mixed breeds of dogs, meaning that there is no such thing as breeds of dogs. There is no pure dog breed. You can help the pit bull struggle for liberation from breedism by becoming a pit bull ally, and standing up to people who claim that pit bull attacks are related to their breed. Arm yourself with the scientific facts that dog breeds are a social construct and all dogs are exactly the same. Then if you’re in public or among friends and family and you find someone saying that pit bulls are dangerous, shut them down. As long as pit bulls are being oppressed and disenfranchised because of unscientific theories about the existence of “breeds” of dogs, no dog will ever be free.
Despite the vile claims of dog breedists, science has shown that there is only one breed of dog: the dog breed. The fact that pit bulls are only 6.5% of the dog population and yet responsible for 74% of fatal dog attacks has nothing to do with breed. This is the result of poor dog training. If we want to stop pit bull attacks, we need to cut the breedist language and focus on giving more money to programs that train pit bulls not to kill so many human children. After all, there are mixed breeds of dogs, meaning that there is no such thing as breeds of dogs. There is no pure dog breed. You can help the pit bull struggle for liberation from breedism by becoming a pit bull ally, and standing up to people who claim that pit bull attacks are related to their breed. Arm yourself with the scientific facts that dog breeds are a social construct and all dogs are exactly the same. Then if you’re in public or among friends and family and you find someone saying that pit bulls are dangerous, shut them down. As long as pit bulls are being oppressed and disenfranchised because of unscientific theories about the existence of “breeds” of dogs, no dog will ever be free.
I saw a pup yesterday, that when it grows up I hope it’s friendly. It was a South African Boerboel. Gunna be massive. The owner said the mother was about 160 and the father about 180.
Despite the vile claims of dog breedists, science has shown that there is only one breed of dog: the dog breed. The fact that pit bulls are only 6.5% of the dog population and yet responsible for 74% of fatal dog attacks has nothing to do with breed. This is the result of poor dog training. If we want to stop pit bull attacks, we need to cut the breedist language and focus on giving more money to programs that train pit bulls not to kill so many human children. After all, there are mixed breeds of dogs, meaning that there is no such thing as breeds of dogs. There is no pure dog breed. You can help the pit bull struggle for liberation from breedism by becoming a pit bull ally, and standing up to people who claim that pit bull attacks are related to their breed. Arm yourself with the scientific facts that dog breeds are a social construct and all dogs are exactly the same. Then if you’re in public or among friends and family and you find someone saying that pit bulls are dangerous, shut them down. As long as pit bulls are being oppressed and disenfranchised because of unscientific theories about the existence of “breeds” of dogs, no dog will ever be free.
I love a big dose of sarcasm --hahahahahahaahhaaaahhahahaaaa -- good chitt right there !!!
I'm doing my part. The neighborhood dogs I speak of basically live among a rural ghetto, have no human interaction other than living under the houses of their home base. They get whatever food is thrown out and come to my place to eat calf excrement and afterbirth. I drove in one day recently just in time to save a 300 lb. heifer that had been cut out of the herd by no less than 5 big dogs. They had already pulled off the end of her tail and had run her through the open gate of the corral just as I drove up. I only got one pregnant female as they saw me and hightailed it for home. The neighbors understand that "Bobo" isn't coming home if I see him. They never mention a disappearance.
Their names are scooby and dooby and they've been in my yard a few times but not long enough for me to get a gun.
Come on man, you can’t shoot two dogs named Scooby and Dooby!
You can when you have small kids that like to play in your yard and they are aggressive pits running free. They have attacked and drawn blood on our jogging neighbor, been aggressive towards me, attacked a neighborhood lab and sent it to the vet for many stitches, and jumped up on a new car of mine and scratched it up clawing at it when I stopped by to talk to their owner about them.
The owner told me she is moving but can't take them with her. I'll be glad to see them out of our neighborhood but worry a bit for kids near their next home. A pit that runs loose and has a history of aggression is a ticking time bomb that needs diffused.
I'm typically a dog lover and got to know the dogs a bit while building my house. I liked them then but that was before I knew they were aggressive and moved my kids into the house. The new neighbor down the road has a big Rot so maybe will get to test one of the theories floated here one day.
Luckily we haven't seen Scooby and Dooby around for a few months. Maybe they've already moved.
I'm doing my part. The neighborhood dogs I speak of basically live among a rural ghetto, have no human interaction other than living under the houses of their home base. They get whatever food is thrown out and come to my place to eat calf excrement and afterbirth. I drove in one day recently just in time to save a 300 lb. heifer that had been cut out of the herd by no less than 5 big dogs. They had already pulled off the end of her tail and had run her through the open gate of the corral just as I drove up. I only got one pregnant female as they saw me and hightailed it for home. The neighbors understand that "Bobo" isn't coming home if I see him. They never mention a disappearance.
You southern folk all seem to live in the most charming of places.
when I was in my early twenties had friends who had both, they fought them and bet on it to settle the argument about which would win. the rotts had the advantage early on but tired much quicker than the pits, couldn't outlast them. if the rotts had got a good hold early it could have gone the other way.
Only an evil idiot would have their dogs fight for any reason.
Winner, winner chicken dinner. I wouldn’t have anything to do with somebody like that and would have serious reservations about anyone who would by extension.
Originally Posted by Goosey
Originally Posted by wilkeshunter
Originally Posted by Yoder409
There's a solution to pit bulls that does not involve a gun.
They're called Rottweilers. Just let go of the leash and watch them do what they do.
Wanna consistently stop a Pit Bull using another dog? Better think in the neighborhood of a Kurdish Kangal, Anitolian Shepherd, Caucasian Ovcharka etc. Very large flock guardians would be the way to go.
Great advice, if a bunch of people start buying Rottweilers and Caucasian Ovcharkas and Turkish Kangals to protect them from pitbulls then we'll have an outbreak of Rottweiler and Caucasian Ovcharka and Turkish Kangal maulings.
Stick to the smaller and less harmless breeds and leave large dogs to those who require them, like the police. If you aren't a first responder and don't need to herd livestock you can probably don't need anything more than a Yorkie or Cocker Spaniel.
What a nice dog. I'm sure people will be a lot safer with a ton of these around.
Sure phagg. How about doggie waiting periods and background checks too?
30 years ago, I'd have been willing to take on any dog that walks with my bare hands............
Uhhh, yeah.
If you say so, Grins
Toot how do you think i took of mine when he attacked, all i had was my hands.
He said ANY dog.
Ohh I believe you, Roger. You didn’t have much of a choice at the time. I think that it was you that advised someone here (Hawkeye?) that pit bulls are good dogs right up until the time that they ain’t.
I was in the Columbus P. D. Narcotics entry team for about 5 years. I personally killed 4 pit bulls. We averaged shooting 8-10 dogs a month. Some months more. I worked with a guy who ran #1 through the door a lot. He honestly has killed 30-50 dogs. Mostly pit bulls, some Rotts and a smattering of others. We started with shotguns with 00 buck, but it was dangerously over penetrative. They now carry M4 style carbines with 60 grain hornady TAP ammo. It works well on even big dogs. I'm retired now. Nothing scarier than making a dynamic entry into a drug house with one or more killer dogs inside.
choked him till he was almost dead and let go, killed him later.
Poor Petey.
My youngest son and his girlfriend are staying here right now because of this virus bullchit, they have a pit puppy out in the back yard. F-ck Petey dogs are dogs I didn't lose any sleep over it.
I saw a pup yesterday, that when it grows up I hope it’s friendly. It was a South African Boerboel. Gunna be massive. The owner said the mother was about 160 and the father about 180.
I ran into a huge Boerbeol one day going to visit some people in Vereeniging in South Africa one day. I was with this really arrogant south African guy and we had visited another family first who had a medium sized dog. As we went through the first people's gate the mid sized dog came running towards us barking so I backed out of the gate for minute to assess the situation. The south african guy said something like' "Oh you American coward, afraid of a dog are you"and he walked on in.
As luck would have it the next home we went to as we opened the gate a huge foaming at the mouth Boerboel came running towards us acting aggressive. The South African guy immediately backed up and locked the gate. You can probably guess what I said at that point. Oh you coward, afraid of a dog are you. The owner came out and the dog calmed down. Owner said he was just shy of 90 kilos and was usually not aggressive towards white people. I nick named him Cujo.
Despite the vile claims of dog breedists, science has shown that there is only one breed of dog: the dog breed. The fact that pit bulls are only 6.5% of the dog population and yet responsible for 74% of fatal dog attacks has nothing to do with breed. This is the result of poor dog training. If we want to stop pit bull attacks, we need to cut the breedist language and focus on giving more money to programs that train pit bulls not to kill so many human children. After all, there are mixed breeds of dogs, meaning that there is no such thing as breeds of dogs. There is no pure dog breed. You can help the pit bull struggle for liberation from breedism by becoming a pit bull ally, and standing up to people who claim that pit bull attacks are related to their breed. Arm yourself with the scientific facts that dog breeds are a social construct and all dogs are exactly the same. Then if you’re in public or among friends and family and you find someone saying that pit bulls are dangerous, shut them down. As long as pit bulls are being oppressed and disenfranchised because of unscientific theories about the existence of “breeds” of dogs, no dog will ever be free.
I love a big dose of sarcasm --hahahahahahaahhaaaahhahahaaaa -- good chitt right there !!!
Thank you. Looks like I ran smack into Poe’s law: “It is impossible these days to create a parody of extreme views so obviously exaggerated that it cannot be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of the views being parodied.”
choked him till he was almost dead and let go, killed him later.
Poor Petey.
My youngest son and his girlfriend are staying here right now because of this virus bullchit, they have a pit puppy out in the back yard. F-ck Petey dogs are dogs I didn't lose any sleep over it.
Thank you. Looks like I ran smack into Poe’s law: “It is impossible these days to create a parody of extreme views so obviously exaggerated that it cannot be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of the views being parodied.”
Thank you. Looks like I ran smack into Poe’s law: “It is impossible these days to create a parody of extreme views so obviously exaggerated that it cannot be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of the views being parodied.”
Despite the vile claims of dog breedists, science has shown that there is only one breed of dog: the dog breed. The fact that pit bulls are only 6.5% of the dog population and yet responsible for 74% of fatal dog attacks has nothing to do with breed. This is the result of poor dog training. If we want to stop pit bull attacks, we need to cut the breedist language and focus on giving more money to programs that train pit bulls not to kill so many human children. After all, there are mixed breeds of dogs, meaning that there is no such thing as breeds of dogs. There is no pure dog breed. You can help the pit bull struggle for liberation from breedism by becoming a pit bull ally, and standing up to people who claim that pit bull attacks are related to their breed. Arm yourself with the scientific facts that dog breeds are a social construct and all dogs are exactly the same. Then if you’re in public or among friends and family and you find someone saying that pit bulls are dangerous, shut them down. As long as pit bulls are being oppressed and disenfranchised because of unscientific theories about the existence of “breeds” of dogs, no dog will ever be free.
I love a big dose of sarcasm --hahahahahahaahhaaaahhahahaaaa -- good chitt right there !!!
Thank you. Looks like I ran smack into Poe’s law: “It is impossible these days to create a parody of extreme views so obviously exaggerated that it cannot be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of the views being parodied.”
You've been around a long time and know this board has some crazy liberals drop by plus a lot of sock-puppetry . I've read posts i'd have bet 10 too 1 odds it was sarcasm - and would have lost the bet .
I'm doing my part. The neighborhood dogs I speak of basically live among a rural ghetto, have no human interaction other than living under the houses of their home base. They get whatever food is thrown out and come to my place to eat calf excrement and afterbirth. I drove in one day recently just in time to save a 300 lb. heifer that had been cut out of the herd by no less than 5 big dogs. They had already pulled off the end of her tail and had run her through the open gate of the corral just as I drove up. I only got one pregnant female as they saw me and hightailed it for home. The neighbors understand that "Bobo" isn't coming home if I see him. They never mention a disappearance.
So you’ve really killed 200+ pit bulls ?
Must be the most deaf, dumb, blind and heavily medicated “trailer park people” around your heifer ranch.
Poe was right. There’s really no way to tell these days. Back when I first joined the fire, who would have believed that you could get socially ostracized, fired from your job, and possibly arrested for refusing to call a dude in a dress a woman?
Not doubting your word. Just questioning the temperment of the Rotts.
when I was in my early twenties had friends who had both, they fought them and bet on it to settle the argument about which would win. the rotts had the advantage early on but tired much quicker than the pits, couldn't outlast them. if the rotts had got a good hold early it could have gone the other way.
I have friends and acquaintances in another state. They have very good, close knowledge of the underground dog fighting circle. The fights are all pit bull -vs- pit bull. The one (closest) friend also is a Rott breeder. He produces pups that are of the VERY highest quality and the vast majority of them go to be service dogs. We have one of his pups........a 2 year old male that goes right around 110 lbs and has the "alpha male" temperament. He's not done bulking yet.
Anyhoo............. Me and him were talking one day and I really don't know the exact lead up to this quote.........but this is exactly what he said to me.......... " I know pit bulls. They ain't a pit bull in this state stand a chance against one of these Rotts".
Just passing on what I was told by a man intimately knowledgeable to both sides. Mine has never had to right a pit bull. But I would NOT put my $$ on the pit bull if it happened.
Have watched pitts kill other dogs and seen Rotts fight.Rotts are much faster than Pitts.
I can't for the life of me, understand the attraction in having a dog around that is nothing but a liability. We have two little house dogs that give us a lot of pleasure and companionship (and are both at my feet at the moment.) They are also whole-house alarm systems with incredible hearing that that will wake the dead at any suspicious bump in the night. I can take it from there. My "real" dog is a Chesapeake Bay Retriever. He weighs, usually 3 or 4 pounds under the top of the breed standard (which is 80 pounds for a properly built male.) He's a great dog on upland or waterfowl. He swims long and fast and he's done blind retrieves on birds everyone thought were lost for sure. He's earned a pass in every sanctioned hunt test he's been in. He will not fight another dog. Why would I want him to? It can lead to permanently being banned from UKC events. I don't feel like I have any particular shortcomings that can be compensated for by having a dog that weighs 30% over the breed standard or that will rip the schitt out of any other dog in the neighborhood.
There are an alarming number of pit bulls and similar dogs around, many, if not most, in the hands of people with no fugging clue how to train or handle a dog. When my wife and I are out walking with the two little dogs, we have a procedure in the event of an uncontrolled, agressive dog coming after us. She takes both little dogs by their harnesses and gets behind me, keeping me between her and the threat. Don't touch me, just keep me between her and the threat. I'll take care of the rest.
I've actually known people into dog fighting. (The operative term being "known." They weren't my friends, I just knew them.) Their family had a history of felony criminal behavior, alcoholism, drug abuse, child sexual abuse and suicide. A limited sample, yeah, but that's what I associate with people enthralled by vicious, out of control dogs.
Despite the vile claims of dog breedists, science has shown that there is only one breed of dog: the dog breed. The fact that pit bulls are only 6.5% of the dog population and yet responsible for 74% of fatal dog attacks has nothing to do with breed. This is the result of poor dog training. If we want to stop pit bull attacks, we need to cut the breedist language and focus on giving more money to programs that train pit bulls not to kill so many human children. After all, there are mixed breeds of dogs, meaning that there is no such thing as breeds of dogs. There is no pure dog breed. You can help the pit bull struggle for liberation from breedism by becoming a pit bull ally, and standing up to people who claim that pit bull attacks are related to their breed. Arm yourself with the scientific facts that dog breeds are a social construct and all dogs are exactly the same. Then if you’re in public or among friends and family and you find someone saying that pit bulls are dangerous, shut them down. As long as pit bulls are being oppressed and disenfranchised because of unscientific theories about the existence of “breeds” of dogs, no dog will ever be free.
This is one of the most idiotic posts I’ve ever read on these forums.
Despite the vile claims of dog breedists, science has shown that there is only one breed of dog: the dog breed. The fact that pit bulls are only 6.5% of the dog population and yet responsible for 74% of fatal dog attacks has nothing to do with breed. This is the result of poor dog training. If we want to stop pit bull attacks, we need to cut the breedist language and focus on giving more money to programs that train pit bulls not to kill so many human children. After all, there are mixed breeds of dogs, meaning that there is no such thing as breeds of dogs. There is no pure dog breed. You can help the pit bull struggle for liberation from breedism by becoming a pit bull ally, and standing up to people who claim that pit bull attacks are related to their breed. Arm yourself with the scientific facts that dog breeds are a social construct and all dogs are exactly the same. Then if you’re in public or among friends and family and you find someone saying that pit bulls are dangerous, shut them down. As long as pit bulls are being oppressed and disenfranchised because of unscientific theories about the existence of “breeds” of dogs, no dog will ever be free.
This is one of the most idiotic posts I’ve ever read on these forums.
Have watched pitts kill other dogs and seen Rotts fight.Rotts are much faster than Pitts.
And, on average, twice the size/weight.
We've had 7 Rotts over the last 25 years or so. Currently have 5 year and 2 year old males. If you've never lived with them, you won't understand the sheer speed and brutal power (although there are other similar breeds..........pits NOT being one of them). But there is NOTHING a man can do to impose his will on a 110,,,,,,,,,,,,125........140 pound Rott (if the dog doesn't wish to have it) without a gun or a good piece of metal.
Neighbors had a pit years ago. The wife started screaming one evening! The pit was trying to get at my youngest daughter, she was on top of the slide. I grabbed the old 22 marlin from behind the back door and stepped outside yelling. The pit took off toward home, I got one round off before he went under the fence! Hit him in the nut sack! The neighbor put him down, right there! Thats my only experience with pits, to this day I wont allow one on the property! That was thirty five years ago! It wouldn't have mattered what breed the dog was! But that made me hate pits, fugg pit bulls!
Despite the vile claims of dog breedists, science has shown that there is only one breed of dog: the dog breed. The fact that pit bulls are only 6.5% of the dog population and yet responsible for 74% of fatal dog attacks has nothing to do with breed. This is the result of poor dog training. If we want to stop pit bull attacks, we need to cut the breedist language and focus on giving more money to programs that train pit bulls not to kill so many human children. After all, there are mixed breeds of dogs, meaning that there is no such thing as breeds of dogs. There is no pure dog breed. You can help the pit bull struggle for liberation from breedism by becoming a pit bull ally, and standing up to people who claim that pit bull attacks are related to their breed. Arm yourself with the scientific facts that dog breeds are a social construct and all dogs are exactly the same. Then if you’re in public or among friends and family and you find someone saying that pit bulls are dangerous, shut them down. As long as pit bulls are being oppressed and disenfranchised because of unscientific theories about the existence of “breeds” of dogs, no dog will ever be free.
I love a big dose of sarcasm --hahahahahahaahhaaaahhahahaaaa -- good chitt right there !!!
Thank you. Looks like I ran smack into Poe’s law: “It is impossible these days to create a parody of extreme views so obviously exaggerated that it cannot be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of the views being parodied.”
Have watched pitts kill other dogs and seen Rotts fight.Rotts are much faster than Pitts.
And, on average, twice the size/weight.
We've had 7 Rotts over the last 25 years or so. Currently have 5 year and 2 year old males. If you've never lived with them, you won't understand the sheer speed and brutal power (although there are other similar breeds..........pits NOT being one of them). But there is NOTHING a man can do to impose his will on a 110,,,,,,,,,,,,125........140 pound Rott (if the dog doesn't wish to have it) without a gun or a good piece of metal.
... I’ve 2 half Anatolian half sarplaninac. They are not for everyone and not house dogs. But they aren’t pitbulls either. They are still bred for a purpose. ...
Have watched pitts kill other dogs and seen Rotts fight.Rotts are much faster than Pitts.
And, on average, twice the size/weight.
We've had 7 Rotts over the last 25 years or so. Currently have 5 year and 2 year old males. If you've never lived with them, you won't understand the sheer speed and brutal power (although there are other similar breeds..........pits NOT being one of them). But there is NOTHING a man can do to impose his will on a 110,,,,,,,,,,,,125........140 pound Rott (if the dog doesn't wish to have it) without a gun or a good piece of metal.
... I’ve 2 half Anatolian half sarplaninac. They are not for everyone and not house dogs. But they aren’t pitbulls either. They are still bred for a purpose. ...
... I’ve 2 half Anatolian half sarplaninac. They are not for everyone and not house dogs. But they aren’t pitbulls either. They are still bred for a purpose. ...
What is that purpose and do you use them for it?
Not answering for Gruff, but for what I see around here in rural Tn, almost anyone with goats keeps an Anatolian or a Great Pyrenees out with them.
Frequenting lousy neighborhoods and associating (or at least coming in contact with) lousy people will let you meet dangerous dogs, generally.
It is the temperment of the human that mostly determines the temperment of the dog - any dog. Mostly - not entirely. Individual dogs have individual personalities, and breeds have generalized characteristics. Mean, undisciplined people will have mean dogs, and generally not under any control to speak of. I do not trust pits or other "attack" dogs as much as other breeds, simply because they tend to have more bad owners, not because of the breed itself.
When our kids were preschool, we often visited friends who had a Dobie. Amy and the boys entertained each other with chases and shrieking. But then Amy was raised with Labs and thought she was one. Good retriever!
Why, we barely escaped last week from a pit when we went to dump some slash on private property, with no one there. They want it for fill, gate is left open.
Between the ecstatic greeting, demanding petting, and thorough face washing (she was no doubt tasting us for future killing), we had a hard time getting the off-loading done.
Helluva watch dog!
But we kept our dogs in the truck anyway.
Screw the sticks. I carry a M94 when walking our dogs in the "field". Around the neighborhood, maybe (not always), a MkII .22. Dogs are the least of my reasons.
Despite the vile claims of dog breedists, science has shown that there is only one breed of dog: the dog breed. The fact that pit bulls are only 6.5% of the dog population and yet responsible for 74% of fatal dog attacks has nothing to do with breed. This is the result of poor dog training. If we want to stop pit bull attacks, we need to cut the breedist language and focus on giving more money to programs that train pit bulls not to kill so many human children. After all, there are mixed breeds of dogs, meaning that there is no such thing as breeds of dogs. There is no pure dog breed. You can help the pit bull struggle for liberation from breedism by becoming a pit bull ally, and standing up to people who claim that pit bull attacks are related to their breed. Arm yourself with the scientific facts that dog breeds are a social construct and all dogs are exactly the same. Then if you’re in public or among friends and family and you find someone saying that pit bulls are dangerous, shut them down. As long as pit bulls are being oppressed and disenfranchised because of unscientific theories about the existence of “breeds” of dogs, no dog will ever be free.
Anyone with any worthwhile knowledge can smell the BS from this.
If there is only a generic dog breed, explain the physiological differences that require different medical treatments.
Try giving a dog like Lassie Ivermectin. Then give it to a dozen other unrelated dogs. Now, tell me they are all the same.
... I’ve 2 half Anatolian half sarplaninac. They are not for everyone and not house dogs. But they aren’t pitbulls either. They are still bred for a purpose. ...
What is that purpose and do you use them for it?
They keep toothy critters on the other side of the fence. I've chickens, and horses and house dogs. Any or all of which can/do bring in bear of both flavors, wolves, etc. These guys keep them away. Mine run loose on 10 acres. They are bred for livestock protection, not to look pretty, or sit pretty for the queer at the dog show. Kissing cousins to Ovcharkas etc. There is some variation among the breeds, some (like Kangals) having a reputation for getting people aggressive. Mine are not, though it did get sideways with my male once, my fault for not understanding the breed. I don't care how badass and young dumb and full of puzzyjuice a guy is, the prospect of going toe to toe unarmed with one of these guys if they get nasty is not an idea to be entertained lightly. They are different and respond different to stimuli than your regular pet dog. Not an eggspurt or pretend to be. But I have done a ton of research after getting mine. And no, I am in no way saying I have badazz dogs. I have furry retards that I am rather fond of that have a job and do it well, and love damn near every stranger that they meet.
... I’ve 2 half Anatolian half sarplaninac. They are not for everyone and not house dogs. But they aren’t pitbulls either. They are still bred for a purpose. ...
What is that purpose and do you use them for it?
He's never met a dog he doesn't like.
Untrue. There have been a few over the years. But admittedly not many.
Despite the vile claims of dog breedists, science has shown that there is only one breed of dog: the dog breed. The fact that pit bulls are only 6.5% of the dog population and yet responsible for 74% of fatal dog attacks has nothing to do with breed. This is the result of poor dog training. If we want to stop pit bull attacks, we need to cut the breedist language and focus on giving more money to programs that train pit bulls not to kill so many human children. After all, there are mixed breeds of dogs, meaning that there is no such thing as breeds of dogs. There is no pure dog breed. You can help the pit bull struggle for liberation from breedism by becoming a pit bull ally, and standing up to people who claim that pit bull attacks are related to their breed. Arm yourself with the scientific facts that dog breeds are a social construct and all dogs are exactly the same. Then if you’re in public or among friends and family and you find someone saying that pit bulls are dangerous, shut them down. As long as pit bulls are being oppressed and disenfranchised because of unscientific theories about the existence of “breeds” of dogs, no dog will ever be free.
Anyone with any worthwhile knowledge can smell the BS from this.
If there is only a generic dog breed, explain the physiological differences that require different medical treatments.
Try giving a dog like Lassie Ivermectin. Then give it to a dozen other unrelated dogs. Now, tell me they are all the same.
It's more like, "Why are pits so prone to sickle cell anemia?"
I can't for the life of me, understand the attraction in having a dog around that is nothing but a liability. We have two little house dogs that give us a lot of pleasure and companionship (and are both at my feet at the moment.) They are also whole-house alarm systems with incredible hearing that that will wake the dead at any suspicious bump in the night. I can take it from there. My "real" dog is a Chesapeake Bay Retriever. He weighs, usually 3 or 4 pounds under the top of the breed standard (which is 80 pounds for a properly built male.) He's a great dog on upland or waterfowl. He swims long and fast and he's done blind retrieves on birds everyone thought were lost for sure. He's earned a pass in every sanctioned hunt test he's been in. He will not fight another dog. Why would I want him to? It can lead to permanently being banned from UKC events. I don't feel like I have any particular shortcomings that can be compensated for by having a dog that weighs 30% over the breed standard or that will rip the schitt out of any other dog in the neighborhood.
There are an alarming number of pit bulls and similar dogs around, many, if not most, in the hands of people with no fugging clue how to train or handle a dog. When my wife and I are out walking with the two little dogs, we have a procedure in the event of an uncontrolled, agressive dog coming after us. She takes both little dogs by their harnesses and gets behind me, keeping me between her and the threat. Don't touch me, just keep me between her and the threat. I'll take care of the rest.
I've actually known people into dog fighting. (The operative term being "known." They weren't my friends, I just knew them.) Their family had a history of felony criminal behavior, alcoholism, drug abuse, child sexual abuse and suicide. A limited sample, yeah, but that's what I associate with people enthralled by vicious, out of control dogs.
If JRT's were dragging a 14" limp d!ck behind them the trailer trash posse would keep those too...it's all about projecting an image.
... I’ve 2 half Anatolian half sarplaninac. They are not for everyone and not house dogs. But they aren’t pitbulls either. They are still bred for a purpose. ...
What is that purpose and do you use them for it?
They keep toothy critters on the other side of the fence. I've chickens, and horses and house dogs. Any or all of which can/do bring in bear of both flavors, wolves, etc. These guys keep them away. Mine run loose on 10 acres. They are bred for livestock protection, not to look pretty, or sit pretty for the queer at the dog show. Kissing cousins to Ovcharkas etc. There is some variation among the breeds, some (like Kangals) having a reputation for getting people aggressive. Mine are not, though it did get sideways with my male once, my fault for not understanding the breed. I don't care how badass and young dumb and full of puzzyjuice a guy is, the prospect of going toe to toe unarmed with one of these guys if they get nasty is not an idea to be entertained lightly. They are different and respond different to stimuli than your regular pet dog. Not an eggspurt or pretend to be. But I have done a ton of research after getting mine. And no, I am in no way saying I have badazz dogs. I have furry retards that I am rather fond of that have a job and do it well, and love damn near every stranger that they meet.
Neighbors have 6, they keep a pair in each pasture with sheep and cows. They have zero tolerance for anything including people approaching a flock or herd outside the fence even when they know you, but inside the fence they are docile lugs, until someone out side the fence approaches and it's back to business.
Neighbors have 6, they keep a pair in each pasture with sheep and cows. They have zero tolerance for anything including people approaching a flock or herd outside the fence even when they know you, but inside the fence they are docile lugs, until someone out side the fence approaches and it's back to business.
I'll never not have a pair. Neat dogs. If I'm home they don't give a flying fugg about any 2 leggeds. I guess they figure it's my purview. Wife has said when I'm not here they act a bit different, but not enough that I have concerns. The innate intelligence they possess is amazing. They don't look at you with a blank stare waiting for you to throw the ball for them lol.
I am another with zero use for any pitbull. I knew the stats, but never understood the kill switch mentality, until we got a JRT. He was the absolute scariest dog I have ever known. He would go from zero to full blown killing machine in two microseconds. All it took was sight of a furry creature moving. The yard cats all survived because they learned all they had to do was roll over on their back, then the dog would ignore them. But the stray cat that ran, had better be fast. As long as a cat was running, he was fair game.
The dog was death on squirrels, rock chucks, and pocket gophers. His favorite thing was fighting raccoons trying to raid the cat food dispenser. Once in attack mode, he was totally oblivious to anything in the world. He got in with a dozen turkey poults (about three pounds) in the yard one day, and set about killing the entire flock. My wife heard the commotion and got to him just as he was finishing the second bird and headed for a third. She was screaming and beating the dog about the head with her fists, But, at that point, he was oblivious to anything but his need to kill. He did not bite or attack her, he was just oblivious to her presence.
I was the only human he ever acted aggressively toward. As a half grown pup, he growled at me for pushing him off my place on the couch. I immediately grabbed him by the scruff of the neck and spanked his butt with my hand. Then he snarled and snapped at me. I grabbed him by the throat and threw him onto his back with all four feet in the air, and kind of half choked him for a minute or two. That was the only time he ever acted aggressive toward a human. But we remained wary.
The dog was a wonderful pet. He loved both of us and the grandkids. He would wear himself absolutely ragged wrestling and playing with the grandkids. But we never let the kids play with him outside our immediate reach. If I had not known I could drop kick him over the fence at the slightest indication of need, he would have been dead and buried as a pup. He was a terrier, and he did what terriers have been bred to do for centuries.
Last I heard, they are still known as pit bull terriers. There are very few of us who could kick an adult pit bull over a yard fence. If I was king, pit bulls would rapidly become extinct.
Yes, malinois, german shepards, collies, rotties, boxers, dobermans, etc can all turn aggressive occasionally. And abuse can turn any dog aggressive. But these are all herding breeds, bred and selected for protective instincts for hundreds of years.
There is a basic difference in brain function between a herding dog and a terrier, born and bred to attack and kill. The herding dog does not, as a rule, become oblivious to his handler during a fight. He will fight to the death to protect his charges, but will break off the attack/pursuit on command.
There is not that instinctive drive to kill. I never heard of the need for a "breaking stick" when handling herding breeds.
Anyone ever see a K9 unit use a pit bull as a hold dog? Why not? Possibly a difference in brain function?
When I had 'em, I used to run my two heeler mutts alot through town next to my bike, otherwise at that time I'd take 'em for hour-long walks early in the morning before work...
During that ten-year period I always carried a 9oz can of bear spray, put bulls and other loose dogs were always a constant worry and, here in the city, shooting even a vicious dog would get complicated.
Almost all charging dogs are actually bluffing and my dogs were usually the target rather than me. Anyways, I do recall using the spray eight times over a ten year period, after each time I replaced it though I had only used a fraction of it..
Only time it didn't work at the first blast was when a rott had already closed in on my loose dog and she was running ovals trying to get away and stay close to me at the same time. That rottweiler got a blast in the face every pass, finally stopped after the third pass and began rubbing her face in the grass.
IIRC the other seven dogs were; one big yellow mutt, one other rottweiler, three pits, a boxer and one for the life I me I cannot recall, but I do remember using the spray eight times.
In every case the inbound dog ignored all my yelling and posturing and came right at us, in every case other than that one rottweiler that sudden 20-30ft blast of spray appeared to instantly startle the dog from "fight" to "flight" mode, throwing a switch inside its head. Most times I actually missed with the spray, shooting low, aim about 2ft above a charging dog's back if ya wanna hit it.
$50 a pop, $400 over ten years, was still much cheaper in complications, legalisms time and money than shooting 'em. Easier too.
Probably the toughest dog in the world to train, like a Missouri mule. You gotta break a 2x4 over his head to get his attention.
My brother, long deceased, used to kick the crap out of his pup. The dog would turn around and look like "What did I do now? Oh yeah, that. Okay." and jump up and lick him in the face. My brother, in Jr High, took the dog to 4H and showed him in obedience class. He took a blue ribbon for the county. But they probably would have taken it away if they had seen his training technique.
He was a big dog, over forty five pounds. Huge by heeler standards. Pheasant hunting, pointing, cat killing, cow chasing fool. The meaner the cow, the better he liked it. Never saw him get kicked, he was too quick. He would dive four feet to the bottom of the water to make a retrieve. And would haul a twenty pound fence post back from fast flowing water.
After my brother died, his dog came to live out his life with me and my family. My kids as toddlers would "tail" him up the hills on hiking trips. Poor old guy was deaf as a stump from sitting under the muzzle of a shotgun or rifle for thousands of rounds with my brother. He could not respond to verbal cues. But he watched your hands like a hawk for any kind of signal and instantly responded.
He was just an incredibly tough animal with unlimited amounts of energy.
I have never owned another heeler. It just would not be fair to the dog, as I have not had the work for him to do.
What's the best cartridge/load combination for a pit bull?
After eliminating anywhere from 4 to 10 a year for over 30 years I recommend any good deer bullet from 62 grain up from .223 up and 2500 fps up applied behind the front leg.
Sounds like high shoulder shots work....Mr. Hasting, how did you find yourself airing out 4-10 Pits a year? SWAT Cop hitting drug houses would probably have that amount of contact with PB.😎
We have a few cattle on a little over a 100 acre pasture that abuts some black folks property on which there are many trailer houses and extended family. They own pits and pit hybrids such as chow cross, Alaskan Husky cross, and mixed in with Catahoula cur. All of which are catch dogs and they breed indiscriminately. Get the idea?
I have never owned another heeler. It just would not be fair to the dog, as I have not had the work for him to do.
Pretty much describes the heeler I have now. The two I had were actually heeler mutts, the best one a heeler/sheepdog type mutt, the second a cross between a heeler and a stumpy tailed cattle dog (a sort of longer-legged heeler). Good dogs but without the fanaticism of the one I have now.
Buying her was planned as my previous two were getting long in the tooth, and a big part of the reason for having dogs was as a burglary deterrent.
Little did I know at the time but as it turned out the missus up and left a couple of years later. It was sorta OK with two people in the house but just me weren't home enough.
Then outta boredom I suppose she became progressively more aggressive with the aging dogs, had to keep 'em separated. Same has turned out to be true with the two little stray mutts I took in. So, she has spent most of her life out in the backyard.
If I woulda known how things were gonna turn out back then I never would have got her.
What's the best cartridge/load combination for a pit bull?
I know for a fact that a standard 5.56 AR will work.
Details requested...How many rounds did you let loose? What was your target area?...Head, heart, behind the shoulder or did you go with a Swiss Cheese look?
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Early one morning a few years back, when we were snowed in with almost a foot of snow, 2 Pits, from the white trash neighbors on the other side of the hill, chased one of my mom's (lives next door) dogs into her garage and were trying to kill him. She called me on the phone hollering & crying, and I took off out the door in pajama pants, Crocs, and my AR loaded with standard 55 grain FMJ. When I came around the corner of her car, they bowed up on me, so I just snapped off a round center mass on the closest. It didn't kill him immediately, but he wouldn't have lasted long. He staggered out in the yard wheezing & bubbling, and I finished him off with another round behind the shoulder. The other one was a schittin' and a gittin' around the corner, so I missed him. I've been patiently waiting ever since for a rematch with him, but that damned dog is smarter than he looks. He stays on the other side of the hill where I can't get a shot at him.
Surprised the second Pit ran instead of testing you....Definitely a smarter Pit Bull.
Despite the vile claims of dog breedists, science has shown that there is only one breed of dog: the dog breed. The fact that pit bulls are only 6.5% of the dog population and yet responsible for 74% of fatal dog attacks has nothing to do with breed. This is the result of poor dog training. If we want to stop pit bull attacks, we need to cut the breedist language and focus on giving more money to programs that train pit bulls not to kill so many human children. After all, there are mixed breeds of dogs, meaning that there is no such thing as breeds of dogs. There is no pure dog breed. You can help the pit bull struggle for liberation from breedism by becoming a pit bull ally, and standing up to people who claim that pit bull attacks are related to their breed. Arm yourself with the scientific facts that dog breeds are a social construct and all dogs are exactly the same. Then if you’re in public or among friends and family and you find someone saying that pit bulls are dangerous, shut them down. As long as pit bulls are being oppressed and disenfranchised because of unscientific theories about the existence of “breeds” of dogs, no dog will ever be free.
Are you full of shît or just a fûck’n retard?
Trying to catch up on this thread, apologies if this has already been posted.
Around here.........all the Dutch have a heeler dog. Some of the English have a heeler dog. A Dutchman's heeler dog will almost never bite you. An Englishman's heeler dog will almost always bite you.
I just got a call from a good friend, he and his dog were attacked by a pit bull today. He was taken by ambulance to a major trauma center here, bypassing two other hospitals. He said he's OK but feels like there is some serious damage to his one arm, at a minimum. He may have been in shock when he called.
His son has taken the dog to an emergency vet. The dog was in tough shape and was just spayed this past week.
He asked me to give him a ride home from the hospital when he's all bandaged up.........
Quick follow up.......I picked my buddy up at the hospital around midnight last night. His left hand was swollen and wrapped up due to deep puncture wounds. They are assuming the dog did not have rabies inoculations and are treating him and his dog accordingly. The dog had $700 worth of attention last night, I thought that was reasonable and expected worse. Stitches in multiple areas, xrays and shots I assume?
When I picked my buddy up I could tell he was still really shook by the entire thing. He's no outdoorsman at all, pretty clueless about a lot of things regarding such matters but still a great old friend. I think myself and most here would have figured out away to kill that [bleep] pitbull.......
Tomorrow he'll be in touch with his county health department, primary doctor and homeowners insurance company.
The fact that pit bulls are only 6.5% of the dog population and yet responsible for 74% of fatal dog attacks has nothing to do with breed. This is the result of poor dog training.
That's one stupid quote. Sure training or lack of it will affect how a dog turns out but dogs are bred for a purpose. Ever wonder why bloodhounds are used to track or pointers are used to point? It's not just because those trainers are good at teaching a dog to track or point, it's because the dog was bred to do a job and the trainer hopefully didn't screw it up! I've seen a lot of dogs that could do what they were bred to do, regardless of training and pit bulls are no exception.
Originally Posted by billhilly
Smells like satire to me.
Noted.....
Also, if Rotts could take out Pits with regularity, you'd see the dog-fighting rings all using Rotts. They're using Pits due to their results, not due to their reputation.
When I had 'em, I used to run my two heeler mutts alot through town next to my bike, otherwise at that time I'd take 'em for hour-long walks early in the morning before work...
During that ten-year period I always carried a 9oz can of bear spray, put bulls and other loose dogs were always a constant worry and, here in the city, shooting even a vicious dog would get complicated.
Almost all charging dogs are actually bluffing and my dogs were usually the target rather than me. Anyways, I do recall using the spray eight times over a ten year period, after each time I replaced it though I had only used a fraction of it..
Only time it didn't work at the first blast was when a rott had already closed in on my loose dog and she was running ovals trying to get away and stay close to me at the same time. That rottweiler got a blast in the face every pass, finally stopped after the third pass and began rubbing her face in the grass.
IIRC the other seven dogs were; one big yellow mutt, one other rottweiler, three pits, a boxer and one for the life I me I cannot recall, but I do remember using the spray eight times.
In every case the inbound dog ignored all my yelling and posturing and came right at us, in every case other than that one rottweiler that sudden 20-30ft blast of spray appeared to instantly startle the dog from "fight" to "flight" mode, throwing a switch inside its head. Most times I actually missed with the spray, shooting low, aim about 2ft above a charging dog's back if ya wanna hit it.
$50 a pop, $400 over ten years, was still much cheaper in complications, legalisms time and money than shooting 'em. Easier too.
Anybody that rides around town with two Heelers off leash is a fugking moron.
I'm doing my part. The neighborhood dogs I speak of basically live among a rural ghetto, have no human interaction other than living under the houses of their home base. They get whatever food is thrown out and come to my place to eat calf excrement and afterbirth. I drove in one day recently just in time to save a 300 lb. heifer that had been cut out of the herd by no less than 5 big dogs. They had already pulled off the end of her tail and had run her through the open gate of the corral just as I drove up. I only got one pregnant female as they saw me and hightailed it for home. The neighbors understand that "Bobo" isn't coming home if I see him. They never mention a disappearance.
So you’ve really killed 200+ pit bulls ? Must be the most deaf, dumb, blind and heavily medicated “trailer park people” around your heifer ranch.
These are country blacks that don't buy dog food and don't control breeding. I actually believe they don't much care about the dogs. They have to know what's happening if they even miss them at all. I did lose a 330 Conibear that one dog took home with him and died in the front yard. If I've only averaged 5 a year for 32 years that's 160. It's more than that. Also we quit counting hogs years ago at 300 so there is a lot of shooting. Then there is our rifle range on the place.
Neighbors had a pit years ago. The wife started screaming one evening! The pit was trying to get at my youngest daughter, she was on top of the slide. I grabbed the old 22 marlin from behind the back door and stepped outside yelling. The pit took off toward home, I got one round off before he went under the fence! Hit him in the nut sack! The neighbor put him down, right there!
Anybody that rides around town with two Heelers off leash is a fugking moron.
I'd leave 'em sitting outside stores too, with the bicycle, never more than a few minutes tho, and only where I could look out the window.
One time I was running just the bigger one by herself and she was ahead of me on the sidewalk, a dog guy says "if you're chasing her it ain't working". Those two dogs would respond to quiet hisses to return to heel and finger snaps to sit. So I hissed and the dog turned on a dime, snapped my fingers and she sat next to the bike. One thing I could never her to do by herself tho was remain in place while I rode away from her. The smaller one would do that, and both would if I was on foot.
Both dogs eventually got too old for it..... eventually died at home.
I have their ashes, my aunt had her own ashes scattered with those of her beloved newfie/lab mutt. I thought about doing the same with these two but that seems like a burden to lay upon my son, doesn't really matter anyhow.
My present heeler is hardly ever on a leash either, she will run at heel alongside a bike the same way she walks at heel, but she ain't steady enough to run next to a bike around traffic. No trouble at all to hike with tho...
Neighbors had a pit years ago. The wife started screaming one evening! The pit was trying to get at my youngest daughter, she was on top of the slide. I grabbed the old 22 marlin from behind the back door and stepped outside yelling. The pit took off toward home, I got one round off before he went under the fence! Hit him in the nut sack! The neighbor put him down, right there!
Anybody that rides around town with two Heelers off leash is a fugking moron.
Don't know Birdie or his dogs. But I have known a few heelers where a heel or stay command was as good as any leash.
I wish my granddaughter's old english bulldog bitch had a bit better obedience training. I was holding her, out here at the fish pond behind the house last week. I told her to sit, but she jumped up to run to my granddaughter. I snapped the leash when she hit the end of it, and she sat back down.
But about two minutes later she was up and going again. Man, I really hit the leash hard the second time. It was a darned substantial leash, 1 inch nylon webbing. I was surprised as hell when it broke right in the middle. I ended up on my ass, and the dog ended up free to run to her "Momma". Momma thumped her pretty good when she got there so it was not a complete positive enforcement of a bad behavior.
I see the kids have a horse's lead rope on the bull dog now. She isn't going to break this one.
Don't know Birdie or his dogs. But I have known a few heelers where a heel or stay command was as good as any leash.
Good examples of the herding breeds have a drive to learn and obey commands, I found all three of our heelers really easy to train, and in photos I have noticed they are frequently looking at me, watching for visual clues even when I weren't aware of it. That third one tho is too impulsive, she'll check immediately if I call her back but, try as I might, she still occasionally thinks about herding passing cars.
Of course, not all dog breeds are the same. IMHO the hound breeds are the worst when it comes to trainability, all they wanna do is run off and follow their nose, exactly what they were bred for.
Don't know Birdie or his dogs. But I have known a few heelers where a heel or stay command was as good as any leash.
Good examples of the herding breeds have a drive to learn and obey commands, I found all three of our heelers really easy to train, and in photos I have noticed they are frequently looking at me, watching for visual clues even when I weren't aware of it. That third one tho is too impulsive, she'll check immediately if I call her back but, try as I might, she still occasionally thinks about herding passing cars.
Of course, not all dog breeds are the same. IMHO the hound breeds are the worst when it comes to trainability, all they wanna do is run off and follow their nose, exactly what they were bred for.
Whippets are very trainable. Hence the numerous obedience, rally, and agility ribbons/titles my wife has worked her dogs through. Our dogs even get complimented when we take them to town...............on a leash.
That said, DO NOT release a small animal in the obedience ring when a whippet is trying to follow commands. Their obedience mind shuts off and the chase and kill mind takes over
When I lived in California my wife was walking our JRT's one day. All of a sudden I heard this blood curling screaming and my wife pounding on the bedroom window for help. I took off running through the house thing WTF was going on. Went through the garage and picked up my set of escrima sticks and got outside to see the neighbors pit bull chewing the the [bleep] out of 2 of my dogs. I quickly administered a barrage of " stick time" on ole Blue's head. The dumb ass Asian owner came running over to get her dog. Too fuucking late. Ole Blue fuucked with the wrong dog owner. Owner had to pay for all the surgeries for our dogs. Just glad my wife did not get bit. Fuuck pit bulls
Years ago when we lived in Bozeman my wife called me crying and said she had been walking our little 15lb Maltese/Poodle(on a leash) when a young pit came running up and took a bite at our dogs neck. Wife reached down and scooped up our dog who had luckily only been nipped. In the process wife gets nipped.
I was out at the range and hauled ass back into town hoping to find the dog as I was raging pissed and had planned on shooting the cocksuucker on site. I knew the dog and the dumbass bitch that owned the dog. Of course the woman had taken her dog back inside so I had to call the cops.
Our dog only needed a couple stitches but I still get pissed thinking about that DUMB cuunt and her worthless dog.
Animal control took the dumb cuunts dog and did the rabies quarantine but it was negative so they gave her a warning. I've always wondered if it attacked again...
The fact that pit bulls are only 6.5% of the dog population and yet responsible for 74% of fatal dog attacks has nothing to do with breed. This is the result of poor dog training.
That's one stupid quote. Sure training or lack of it will affect how a dog turns out but dogs are bred for a purpose. Ever wonder why bloodhounds are used to track or pointers are used to point? It's not just because those trainers are good at teaching a dog to track or point, it's because the dog was bred to do a job and the trainer hopefully didn't screw it up! I've seen a lot of dogs that could do what they were bred to do, regardless of training and pit bulls are no exception.
Originally Posted by billhilly
Smells like satire to me.
Noted.....
Also, if Rotts could take out Pits with regularity, you'd see the dog-fighting rings all using Rotts. They're using Pits due to their results, not due to their reputation.
Pitts are stupid and want to fight (kill).Rotts dont so wouldnt be a fight.How hard can this be?
Pitts are stupid and want to fight (kill).Rotts dont so wouldnt be a fight.How hard can this be?
American pit bull terriers have been bred since the second half of the 19th century, for fighting and other purposes, this breed was once considered a symbol of the United States, how come only since some time in the 1980s and 1990s did they get a reputation of this killer dog? Is it magic? Or are Campfire members succumbing to emotional canine hysteria?
When I lived in California my wife was walking our JRT's one day. All of a sudden I heard this blood curling screaming and my wife pounding on the bedroom window for help. I took off running through the house thing WTF was going on. Went through the garage and picked up my set of escrima sticks and got outside to see the neighbors pit bull chewing the the [bleep] out of 2 of my dogs. I quickly administered a barrage of " stick time" on ole Blue's head. The dumb ass Asian owner came running over to get her dog. Too fuucking late. Ole Blue fuucked with the wrong dog owner. Owner had to pay for all the surgeries for our dogs. Just glad my wife did not get bit. Fuuck pit bulls
If I had a nickel for every time my escrima sticks saved my ass...
When I lived in California my wife was walking our JRT's one day. All of a sudden I heard this blood curling screaming and my wife pounding on the bedroom window for help. I took off running through the house thing WTF was going on. Went through the garage and picked up my set of escrima sticks and got outside to see the neighbors pit bull chewing the the [bleep] out of 2 of my dogs. I quickly administered a barrage of " stick time" on ole Blue's head. The dumb ass Asian owner came running over to get her dog. Too fuucking late. Ole Blue fuucked with the wrong dog owner. Owner had to pay for all the surgeries for our dogs. Just glad my wife did not get bit. Fuuck pit bulls
If I had a nickel for every time my escrima sticks saved my ass...
Pitts are stupid and want to fight (kill).Rotts dont so wouldnt be a fight.How hard can this be?
American pit bull terriers have been bred since the second half of the 19th century, for fighting and other purposes, this breed was once considered a symbol of the United States, how come only since some time in the 1980s and 1990s did they get a reputation of this killer dog? Is it magic? Or are Campfire members succumbing to emotional canine hysteria?
Around here Pits are ghetto dogs. They're all over the ghetto running loose and knocking up any dog that comes along. As a result, the local Humane Society usually consists of about 70% Pit or Pit mixes.
When I lived in California my wife was walking our JRT's one day. All of a sudden I heard this blood curling screaming and my wife pounding on the bedroom window for help. I took off running through the house thing WTF was going on. Went through the garage and picked up my set of escrima sticks and got outside to see the neighbors pit bull chewing the the [bleep] out of 2 of my dogs. I quickly administered a barrage of " stick time" on ole Blue's head. The dumb ass Asian owner came running over to get her dog. Too fuucking late. Ole Blue fuucked with the wrong dog owner. Owner had to pay for all the surgeries for our dogs. Just glad my wife did not get bit. Fuuck pit bulls
If I had a nickel for every time my escrima sticks saved my ass...
When I lived in California my wife was walking our JRT's one day. All of a sudden I heard this blood curling screaming and my wife pounding on the bedroom window for help. I took off running through the house thing WTF was going on. Went through the garage and picked up my set of escrima sticks and got outside to see the neighbors pit bull chewing the the [bleep] out of 2 of my dogs. I quickly administered a barrage of " stick time" on ole Blue's head. The dumb ass Asian owner came running over to get her dog. Too fuucking late. Ole Blue fuucked with the wrong dog owner. Owner had to pay for all the surgeries for our dogs. Just glad my wife did not get bit. Fuuck pit bulls
If I had a nickel for every time my escrima sticks saved my ass...
For some reason in Montana pitbulls with multiple attacks are not destroyed and owners aren't even cited.
Always seems the the dum fat [bleep] love their precious rescued pitbulls.
Originally Posted by SamOlson
That is a GOOD pit bull story.
I personally hate them with a passion.
Years ago when we lived in Bozeman my wife called me crying and said she had been walking our little 15lb Maltese/Poodle(on a leash) when a young pit came running up and took a bite at our dogs neck. Wife reached down and scooped up our dog who had luckily only been nipped. In the process wife gets nipped.
I was out at the range and hauled ass back into town hoping to find the dog as I was raging pissed and had planned on shooting the cocksuucker on site. I knew the dog and the dumbass bitch that owned the dog. Of course the woman had taken her dog back inside so I had to call the cops.
Our dog only needed a couple stitches but I still get pissed thinking about that DUMB cuunt and her worthless dog.
Animal control took the dumb cuunts dog and did the rabies quarantine but it was negative so they gave her a warning. I've always wondered if it attacked again...
Around here Pits are ghetto dogs. They're all over the ghetto running loose and knocking up any dog that comes along. As a result, the local Humane Society usually consists of about 70% Pit or Pit mixes.
The bitch is an Old English. They also have an English male.
The English bull dog is the perfect stereotype of the breed. He lays around the house, and eats, and farts, and sleeps, and schitz. He is a sweetheart, but, like most English bull dogs he has racked up about $3 K in vet bills by his second birthday, plus the ridiculous purchase price of the pup.
The Old English female, on the other hand is all athlete, go, go, go. She runs laps around the house and vaults over the raised garden beds. Just as expensive to purchase as a pup, but her only vet visits have been for vaccinations and annual checkups.
And while she is not well obedience trained, she is contained. Even when she broke the leash on me, we were inside a fenced acre of sheep pasture and the pond. But yes, the 17 year old girl needs to get her schitt together and teach her dog better manners.
The closest these two come to danger is falling in the pond. They both swim just like a rock. The English male has fallen in three times and would have drowned each time were it not for someone grabbing him and hauling his ass back out of the water. But the dumb fugger still thinks that fifty degree slope is a good place for him to get a drink. He's about as graceful as a rhino walking through the figurative china shop.
If you want a nice warm expensive, high maintanence, throw rug which farts all over the house, get an English bull dog.
If you want some action and fun, get an Old English bull dog.
Once when we had our chow n-gger a pit attacked him in the front yard they were getting it on but the pit got locked on n-gger's neck so i started wacking on the pits neck with a machete till it truned loose of n-gger, cut him up pretty good with that dull machete. i saw the pit two blocks over a week later going about his business like nothing had happened, big open wound on the back of his neck. i got a file and sharpened the machete.
Pitts are stupid and want to fight (kill).Rotts dont so wouldnt be a fight.How hard can this be?
American pit bull terriers have been bred since the second half of the 19th century, for fighting and other purposes, this breed was once considered a symbol of the United States, how come only since some time in the 1980s and 1990s did they get a reputation of this killer dog? Is it magic? Or are Campfire members succumbing to emotional canine hysteria?
Back in the days individual dogs of most breeds would be ruthlessly culled if they weren't up to par, this was especially true of pit bulls when it came to aggression towards humans.
Hardly anyone kills dogs nowadays, and the morons who have pits often WANT them to be mean.
Around here Pits are ghetto dogs. They're all over the ghetto running loose and knocking up any dog that comes along. As a result, the local Humane Society usually consists of about 70% Pit or Pit mixes.
Around here Pits are ghetto dogs. They're all over the ghetto running loose and knocking up any dog that comes along. As a result, the local Humane Society usually consists of about 70% Pit or Pit mixes.
Once when we had our chow n-gger a pit attacked him in the front yard they were getting it on but the pit got locked on n-gger's neck so i started wacking on the pits neck with a machete till it truned loose of n-gger, cut him up pretty good with that dull machete. i saw the pit two blocks over a week later going about his business like nothing had happened, big open wound on the back of his neck. i got a file and sharpened the machete.
A dull machete?
Some Mexican you turned out to be.
Chows are no joke. Them fugkers can lay down some hurt.
Of course, not all dog breeds are the same. IMHO the hound breeds are the worst when it comes to trainability, all they wanna do is run off and follow their nose, exactly what they were bred for.
I've had a lot of hounds, beagles, coonhounds, foxhounds....as far as I'm concerned, they're the best for trainability because you don't have to train them much to do what they're intended for. Just a little guidance is all they need.
When I lived in California my wife was walking our JRT's one day. All of a sudden I heard this blood curling screaming and my wife pounding on the bedroom window for help. I took off running through the house thing WTF was going on. Went through the garage and picked up my set of escrima sticks and got outside to see the neighbors pit bull chewing the the [bleep] out of 2 of my dogs. I quickly administered a barrage of " stick time" on ole Blue's head. The dumb ass Asian owner came running over to get her dog. Too fuucking late. Ole Blue fuucked with the wrong dog owner. Owner had to pay for all the surgeries for our dogs. Just glad my wife did not get bit. Fuuck pit bulls
Dog played Russian Roulette and caught a Lapua to the head....Good story with the right outcome.
I actually don’t dislike the animal, as much as I do some owners who think they have this breed figured out, but don’t...I was one, too.
My ex wife had a Rott she and the kids got as a puppy before we married. Sambo was 4 years old when he got ahold of the youngest toy doll. Kids crying that Sambo has her doll. Wife went outside to take it from him. Sambo bit the wife in her face when she tried to take it back.... She needed 7 stitches to close her face wound.
I raced home from work after getting the call with a screaming kid in the background and my wife crying, saying she’s holding a towel with ice to her face, explaining what happened.
Sambo didn’t see the next day. Rotts are a heavy and even more so when dead weight.
When I lived in California my wife was walking our JRT's one day. All of a sudden I heard this blood curling screaming and my wife pounding on the bedroom window for help. I took off running through the house thing WTF was going on. Went through the garage and picked up my set of escrima sticks and got outside to see the neighbors pit bull chewing the the [bleep] out of 2 of my dogs. I quickly administered a barrage of " stick time" on ole Blue's head. The dumb ass Asian owner came running over to get her dog. Too fuucking late. Ole Blue fuucked with the wrong dog owner. Owner had to pay for all the surgeries for our dogs. Just glad my wife did not get bit. Fuuck pit bulls
I have to ask, tongue firmly in cheek. Where was your back-up. You know those little green guys. Leonardo, Donatello, Michaelangelo, Raphael, and their sensei Shredder?
When I lived in California my wife was walking our JRT's one day. All of a sudden I heard this blood curling screaming and my wife pounding on the bedroom window for help. I took off running through the house thing WTF was going on. Went through the garage and picked up my set of escrima sticks and got outside to see the neighbors pit bull chewing the the [bleep] out of 2 of my dogs. I quickly administered a barrage of " stick time" on ole Blue's head. The dumb ass Asian owner came running over to get her dog. Too fuucking late. Ole Blue fuucked with the wrong dog owner. Owner had to pay for all the surgeries for our dogs. Just glad my wife did not get bit. Fuuck pit bulls
I have to ask, tongue firmly in cheek. Where was your back-up. You know those little green guys. Leonardo, Donatello, Michaelangelo, Raphael, and their sensei Shredder?
Once when we had our chow n-gger a pit attacked him in the front yard they were getting it on but the pit got locked on n-gger's neck so i started wacking on the pits neck with a machete till it truned loose of n-gger, cut him up pretty good with that dull machete. i saw the pit two blocks over a week later going about his business like nothing had happened, big open wound on the back of his neck. i got a file and sharpened the machete.
A dull machete?
Some Mexican you turned out to be.
Chows are no joke. Them fugkers can lay down some hurt.
Miss that dog, we use to let him run loose in the old neighborhood, never bothered anyone but would bark at the mailman. one day we heard him barking and my wife went to the door to call him, here n-gger here ni-gger lol turned out we had a substitute mailman that was black that day. she was f-cking embarrassed. I told the guy what was going on and the dogs name and he started cracking up.
Around here Pits are ghetto dogs. They're all over the ghetto running loose and knocking up any dog that comes along. As a result, the local Humane Society usually consists of about 70% Pit or Pit mixes.
Anyone has experience or first hand knowledge if OC spray will stop a Pit before it latches on to another dog?
Wife carries spray just for this reason...I got her a Gunfighters Inc chest holster for her Glock 17 so she could defend herself and our mutt from an attack.
She’s a total chic insert (dumb) when she says it’s easier to grab OC spray and hit the trails than putting on her holster.
Done fighting with her about it...If I’m walking the dog alone or with the wife, I’m carrying a Glock 20 in the same holster - no spray.
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When I lived in California my wife was walking our JRT's one day. All of a sudden I heard this blood curling screaming and my wife pounding on the bedroom window for help. I took off running through the house thing WTF was going on. Went through the garage and picked up my set of escrima sticks and got outside to see the neighbors pit bull chewing the the [bleep] out of 2 of my dogs. I quickly administered a barrage of " stick time" on ole Blue's head. The dumb ass Asian owner came running over to get her dog. Too fuucking late. Ole Blue fuucked with the wrong dog owner. Owner had to pay for all the surgeries for our dogs. Just glad my wife did not get bit. Fuuck pit bulls
If I had a nickel for every time my escrima sticks saved my ass...
Good for you....
You can go all Dog Bros on they azz. If someone tries to hit you w/ a stick or numchuks, or a bat can you shoot them? Enquiring minds want to know. Any dog off the leash is a potential target.
When I lived in California my wife was walking our JRT's one day. All of a sudden I heard this blood curling screaming and my wife pounding on the bedroom window for help. I took off running through the house thing WTF was going on. Went through the garage and picked up my set of escrima sticks and got outside to see the neighbors pit bull chewing the the [bleep] out of 2 of my dogs. I quickly administered a barrage of " stick time" on ole Blue's head. The dumb ass Asian owner came running over to get her dog. Too fuucking late. Ole Blue fuucked with the wrong dog owner. Owner had to pay for all the surgeries for our dogs. Just glad my wife did not get bit. Fuuck pit bulls
If I had a nickel for every time my escrima sticks saved my ass...
Good for you....
You can go all Dog Bros on they azz. If someone tries to hit you w/ a stick or numchuks, or a bat can you shoot them? Enquiring minds want to know. Any dog off the leash is a potential target.
Anyone has experience or first hand knowledge if OC spray will stop a Pit before it latches on to another dog?
Wife carries spray just for this reason...I got her a Gunfighters Inc chest holster for her Glock 17 so she could defend herself and our mutt from an attack.
She’s a total chic insert (dumb) when she says it’s easier to grab OC spray and hit the trails than putting on her holster.
Done fighting with her about it...If I’m walking the dog alone or with the wife, I’m carrying a Glock 20 in the same holster - no spray.
Anyone has experience or first hand knowledge if OC spray will stop a Pit before it latches on to another dog?
Wife carries spray just for this reason...I got her a Gunfighters Inc chest holster for her Glock 17 so she could defend herself and our mutt from an attack.
She’s a total chic insert (dumb) when she says it’s easier to grab OC spray and hit the trails than putting on her holster.
Done fighting with her about it...If I’m walking the dog alone or with the wife, I’m carrying a Glock 20 in the same holster - no spray.
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Most dog charges are bluffs, specially if you get loud and tall, a few aren't, this is what I post on page 15 of this thread.
When I had 'em, I used to run my two heeler mutts alot through town next to my bike, otherwise at that time I'd take 'em for hour-long walks early in the morning before work. During that ten-year period I always carried a 9oz can of bear spray, put bulls and other loose dogs were always a constant worry and, here in the city, shooting even a vicious dog would get complicated. Almost all charging dogs are actually bluffing and my dogs were usually the target rather than me. Anyways, I do recall using the spray eight times over a ten year period, after each time I replaced it though I had only used a fraction of it..
Only time it didn't work at the first blast was when a rott had already closed in on my loose dog and she was running ovals trying to get away and stay close to me at the same time. That rottweiler got a blast in the face every pass, finally stopped after the third pass and began rubbing her face in the grass. IIRC the other seven dogs were; one big yellow mutt, one other rottweiler, three pits, a boxer and one for the life I me I cannot recall, but I do remember using the spray eight times.
In every case the inbound dog ignored all my yelling and posturing and came right at us, in every case other than that one rottweiler that sudden 20-30ft blast of spray appeared to instantly startle the dog from "fight" to "flight" mode, throwing a switch inside its head. Most times I actually missed with the spray, shooting low, aim about 2ft above a charging dog's back if ya wanna hit it.
$50 a pop, $400 over ten years, was still much cheaper in complications, legalisms time and money than shooting 'em. Easier too.
So for me, bear spray removed any possible need for shooting seven times, including three pit bulls, that one rott where it didn't work right off came up from behind out of an adjacent yard after dark.
I don't believe it was the capsasin that did it, I missed the inbound dog almost every occasion, more like them being startled by the sudden burst. Even that one Rott that got three blasts full in the face didn't appear to be in pain, more like trying to clear its vision when it began to rub its face in the grass. It did forget all about attacking tho.
Anyone has experience or first hand knowledge if OC spray will stop a Pit before it latches on to another dog?
Wife carries spray just for this reason...I got her a Gunfighters Inc chest holster for her Glock 17 so she could defend herself and our mutt from an attack.
She’s a total chic insert (dumb) when she says it’s easier to grab OC spray and hit the trails than putting on her holster.
Done fighting with her about it...If I’m walking the dog alone or with the wife, I’m carrying a Glock 20 in the same holster - no spray.
When I lived in California my wife was walking our JRT's one day. All of a sudden I heard this blood curling screaming and my wife pounding on the bedroom window for help. I took off running through the house thing WTF was going on. Went through the garage and picked up my set of escrima sticks and got outside to see the neighbors pit bull chewing the the [bleep] out of 2 of my dogs. I quickly administered a barrage of " stick time" on ole Blue's head. The dumb ass Asian owner came running over to get her dog. Too fuucking late. Ole Blue fuucked with the wrong dog owner. Owner had to pay for all the surgeries for our dogs. Just glad my wife did not get bit. Fuuck pit bulls
If I had a nickel for every time my escrima sticks saved my ass...
Good for you....
You can go all Dog Bros on they azz. If someone tries to hit you w/ a stick or numchuks, or a bat can you shoot them? Enquiring minds want to know. Any dog off the leash is a potential target.
mike r
Yo Rambo,
Please elaborate on how you would handle a situation when your sound asleep, hear horrific screams, dogs fighting, and you have seconds to wake up, get your [bleep] together, assume what is happening and diffuse the situation as quickly as possibly.
When I lived in California my wife was walking our JRT's one day. All of a sudden I heard this blood curling screaming and my wife pounding on the bedroom window for help. I took off running through the house thing WTF was going on. Went through the garage and picked up my set of escrima sticks and got outside to see the neighbors pit bull chewing the the [bleep] out of 2 of my dogs. I quickly administered a barrage of " stick time" on ole Blue's head. The dumb ass Asian owner came running over to get her dog. Too fuucking late. Ole Blue fuucked with the wrong dog owner. Owner had to pay for all the surgeries for our dogs. Just glad my wife did not get bit. Fuuck pit bulls
If I had a nickel for every time my escrima sticks saved my ass...
Good for you....
You can go all Dog Bros on they azz. If someone tries to hit you w/ a stick or numchuks, or a bat can you shoot them? Enquiring minds want to know. Any dog off the leash is a potential target.
mike r
Futhermore,
If you or deflave would like to debate this or anything else further. I would like dicsuss via phone or FTF.
I will pick up my Glock and appraise the problem, worst case scenario planning is often the best. Playing w/ sticks is fun in the gym but is basically stupid when a gun is an option. If you approach me in a rude, angry or threatening manner w/ your sticks I will shoot you to the ground. Playtime ends when you pick up any deadly weapon...rambo.
I will pick up my Glock and appraise the problem, worst case scenario planning is often the best. Playing w/ sticks is fun in the gym but is basically stupid when a gun is an option. If you approach me in a rude, angry or threatening manner w/ your sticks I will shoot you to the ground. Playtime ends when you pick up any deadly weapon...rambo.
mike r
Time is not your friend. You lack real life experience. You lose.......
Also, if Rotts could take out Pits with regularity, you'd see the dog-fighting rings all using Rotts. They're using Pits due to their results, not due to their reputation.
Much in the same way that, if a 2020 Escalade could take out a 1990 Subaru wagon with regularity, you'd see more new Escalades in the demolition derby.
My dog lived and the other died because I picked up what would do the job on the way. What a gun of worked better? Absolutely. Start the timer when the unknown is in front of you.Improvise, adapt, overcome. Win.
I'm impressed if you killed a grown pit bull with a stick. I'm not that brave so I am packing always.
Had one of my hounds attacked by a pit bull 2 weeks ago, dog went through the screen door while walking my dog with one thing in his mind, my dog. He came out and bit onto my dogs back hams and wouldnt let go untill I drop kicked the SOB in the throat, then he staggered off turned around and I fogged him down with a 10 second burst of bear mace, that ended it, next would have been the sig 220, anti pitbull suppressor. Owner ended up paying the $241 vet bill for my dog. Biggest problem now is that dog attack once and more likely again, might be a kid next time
My dog lived and the other died because I picked up what would do the job on the way. What a gun of worked better? Absolutely. Start the timer when the unknown is in front of you.Improvise, adapt, overcome. Win.
I'm impressed if you killed a grown pit bull with a stick. I'm not that brave so I am packing always.
No need to be impressed. We do what we do to protect loved ones.
Had one of my hounds attacked by a pit bull 2 weeks ago, dog went through the screen door while walking my dog with one thing in his mind, my dog. He came out and bit onto my dogs back hams and wouldnt let go untill I drop kicked the SOB in the throat, then he staggered off turned around and I fogged him down with a 10 second burst of bear mace, that ended it, next would have been the sig 220, anti pitbull suppressor. Owner ended up paying the $241 vet bill for my dog. Biggest problem now is that dog attack once and more likely again, might be a kid next time
Had one of my hounds attacked by a pit bull 2 weeks ago, dog went through the screen door while walking my dog with one thing in his mind, my dog. He came out and bit onto my dogs back hams and wouldnt let go untill I drop kicked the SOB in the throat, then he staggered off turned around and I fogged him down with a 10 second burst of bear mace, that ended it, next would have been the sig 220, anti pitbull suppressor. Owner ended up paying the $241 vet bill for my dog. Biggest problem now is that dog attack once and more likely again, might be a kid next time
Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
What's the best cartridge/load combination for a pit bull?
If I could carry in town 12 gauge double barrel coach gun loaded with 2 3/4" mag with a 1 1/2 oz of #4, but since I cant carry that my sig 220 45 acp goes with me along with bear mace for the ower
Let's just hope none of you have to encounter this.
Every second in precious between life and death....
actually I have when my pit attacked me one morning, I had to choke him almost to death, he was killed later that day but I had to spend the night in the hospital, got pins in one finger plus a bunch of stitches in the fingers on both hands.
Let's just hope none of you have to encounter this.
Every second in precious between life and death....
actually I have when my pit attacked me one morning, I had to choke him almost to death, he was killed later that day but I had to spend the night in the hospital, got pins in one finger plus a bunch of stitches in the fingers on both hands.
So you know. Time is not our friend. We do what we have to do.
Had one of my hounds attacked by a pit bull 2 weeks ago, dog went through the screen door while walking my dog with one thing in his mind, my dog. He came out and bit onto my dogs back hams and wouldnt let go untill I drop kicked the SOB in the throat, then he staggered off turned around and I fogged him down with a 10 second burst of bear mace, that ended it, next would have been the sig 220, anti pitbull suppressor. Owner ended up paying the $241 vet bill for my dog. Biggest problem now is that dog attack once and more likely again, might be a kid next time
Another pit discouraged with bear spray, with the three I did with it makes four. Only problem with mine is, since they never actually made contact, how intent they REALLY were remains unknown. They sure LOOKED serious tho. But in ten years walking/running my dogs through bad neighborhoods they never got bit, 'cept briefly by that one rot that snuck up from behind.
I will say this, I not infrequently ran into loose pit bulls, and even most of these were turned back with me shouting and posturing.
Bear spray ain't a substitute for deadly force, but I'm glad this tool was available tho.
I like pit bulls and have had a number of them through the years. My last one was Ruby, and I had to put her down a few months ago at 14 years old. She saved my wife's life when my last Catahoula turned on her for some unknown reason. We've had 3 Catahoula Leopard dogs that I put down because they got to aggressive and we couldn't control them, I won't give that breed any more chances. No more big dogs for us were planning on traveling and been thinking about a Jack Russell or some other kind of ankle biter.
Had one of my hounds attacked by a pit bull 2 weeks ago, dog went through the screen door while walking my dog with one thing in his mind, my dog. He came out and bit onto my dogs back hams and wouldnt let go untill I drop kicked the SOB in the throat, then he staggered off turned around and I fogged him down with a 10 second burst of bear mace, that ended it, next would have been the sig 220, anti pitbull suppressor. Owner ended up paying the $241 vet bill for my dog. Biggest problem now is that dog attack once and more likely again, might be a kid next time
Shoot the fuucker.
Already talked to my buddy that's a state police and he said unless I was attacked I would be in trouble shooting the dog, bear mace works great to pitbull changes there mind fast, plus it turns them orange
I like pit bulls and have had a number of them through the years. My last one was Ruby, and I had to put her down a few months ago at 14 years old. She saved my wife's life when my last Catahoula turned on her for some unknown reason. We've had 3 Catahoula Leopard dogs that I put down because they got to aggressive and we couldn't control them, I won't give that breed any more chances. No more big dogs for us were planning on traveling and been thinking about a Jack Russell or some other kind of ankle biter.
Dang! I hate to hear that about your Catahoulas. We have one now that is a great family dog.
Louisiana has some real good laws on the books about dogs. For one thing we don't have a statewide leash law but it is illegal for your dog to be on someone else's property. Also it is very clear that any citizen may kill any dangerous or vicious dog and there is no criminal or civil liability for killing a dangerous or vicious dog. It is in Title 3 the agriculture section of the law but applies statewide anywhere and does not require the dog to be on your property if you kill him.
Had one of my hounds attacked by a pit bull 2 weeks ago, dog went through the screen door while walking my dog with one thing in his mind, my dog. He came out and bit onto my dogs back hams and wouldnt let go untill I drop kicked the SOB in the throat, then he staggered off turned around and I fogged him down with a 10 second burst of bear mace, that ended it, next would have been the sig 220, anti pitbull suppressor. Owner ended up paying the $241 vet bill for my dog. Biggest problem now is that dog attack once and more likely again, might be a kid next time
Another pit discouraged with bear spray, with the three I did with it makes four. Only problem with mine is, since they never actually made contact, how intent they REALLY were remains unknown. They sure LOOKED serious tho. But in ten years walking/running my dogs through bad neighborhoods they never got bit, 'cept briefly by that one rot that snuck up from behind.
I will say this, I not infrequently ran into loose pit bulls, and even most of these were turned back with me shouting and posturing.
Bear spray ain't a substitute for deadly force, but I'm glad this tool was available tho.
From now on when I see a pit comeing off a leash they will be hit 20 or 30 feet away with bear mace even if I dont know what there intention are, they get any closer the sig will be ready, not playing games anymore, my dogs are my family and illl protect them like I would my family
I like pit bulls and have had a number of them through the years. My last one was Ruby, and I had to put her down a few months ago at 14 years old. She saved my wife's life when my last Catahoula turned on her for some unknown reason. We've had 3 Catahoula Leopard dogs that I put down because they got to aggressive and we couldn't control them, I won't give that breed any more chances. No more big dogs for us were planning on traveling and been thinking about a Jack Russell or some other kind of ankle biter.
Rat terriers are in the same general class as Jack Russels but less crazy and less prone to running off.
Plus not long ago, a lot of Jack Russels got bred down to crap after the show Frasier made them popular.
You can have a rat terrier AND a cat, more of an either/or proposition with a Jack Russel.
Had one of my hounds attacked by a pit bull 2 weeks ago, dog went through the screen door while walking my dog with one thing in his mind, my dog. He came out and bit onto my dogs back hams and wouldnt let go untill I drop kicked the SOB in the throat, then he staggered off turned around and I fogged him down with a 10 second burst of bear mace, that ended it, next would have been the sig 220, anti pitbull suppressor. Owner ended up paying the $241 vet bill for my dog. Biggest problem now is that dog attack once and more likely again, might be a kid next time
Another pit discouraged with bear spray, with the three I did with it makes four. Only problem with mine is, since they never actually made contact, how intent they REALLY were remains unknown. They sure LOOKED serious tho. But in ten years walking/running my dogs through bad neighborhoods they never got bit, 'cept briefly by that one rot that snuck up from behind.
I will say this, I not infrequently ran into loose pit bulls, and even most of these were turned back with me shouting and posturing.
Bear spray ain't a substitute for deadly force, but I'm glad this tool was available tho.
From now on when I see a pit comeing off a leash they will be hit 20 or 30 feet away with bear mace even if I dont know what there intention are, they get any closer the sig will be ready, not playing games anymore, my dogs are my family and illl protect them like I would my family
Also, if Rotts could take out Pits with regularity, you'd see the dog-fighting rings all using Rotts. They're using Pits due to their results, not due to their reputation.
Much in the same way that, if a 2020 Escalade could take out a 1990 Subaru wagon with regularity, you'd see more new Escalades in the demolition derby.
When I lived in California my wife was walking our JRT's one day. All of a sudden I heard this blood curling screaming and my wife pounding on the bedroom window for help. I took off running through the house thing WTF was going on. Went through the garage and picked up my set of escrima sticks and got outside to see the neighbors pit bull chewing the the [bleep] out of 2 of my dogs. I quickly administered a barrage of " stick time" on ole Blue's head. The dumb ass Asian owner came running over to get her dog. Too fuucking late. Ole Blue fuucked with the wrong dog owner. Owner had to pay for all the surgeries for our dogs. Just glad my wife did not get bit. Fuuck pit bulls
If I had a nickel for every time my escrima sticks saved my ass...
Good for you....
You can go all Dog Bros on they azz. If someone tries to hit you w/ a stick or numchuks, or a bat can you shoot them? Enquiring minds want to know. Any dog off the leash is a potential target.
mike r
Yo Rambo,
Please elaborate on how you would handle a situation when your sound asleep, hear horrific screams, dogs fighting, and you have seconds to wake up, get your [bleep] together, assume what is happening and diffuse the situation as quickly as possibly.
Please enlighten me on your ways....
Hopefully you learned you should of had a gun or two with you. I leave a 9mm in my britches next to my side of the bed and have a 10mm on my night stand. Never leave your home without a gun, this could of went very bad, you never know what your going to run into these days. Your buddy looks like it's saying why me what did I do to deserve this.
I only ever had to break up one dog fight. Two of the neighbor's stock dogs had our JRT on his back. One had him by the throat, the other was chewing the hell out of his exposed chest. I was out in the yard working when I heard the commotion.
I had to go about forty yards to intervene. I figured the jack russel would not survive the amount of time it would have taken me to go in the house, open the safe. and load a gun. So I picked up a fallen tree limb on the way. About 2 1/2 inches in diameter and seven feet long.
I brought that stick off the ground behind me and cracked one dog over the head in my best Paul Bunyon axe swing imitation. I hit him so hard, it broke the limb over his head. But that is all it took. They both, along with a third dog standing 30 yds back watching took off for home as hard as they could run.
That damned JRT jumped to his feet and took off in high pursuit. He came back about five minutes later with his head in the air and tail wagging, proud as hell for running those big bullies away.
But by night fall the little schitt was so stiff he could hardly walk outside to do his business. It was a Sunday morning. Monday, I was there when they opened the doors of the Vet Clinic. They put in about thirty stitches and gave him some analgesics. IIRC, the bill was a bit less than $150. Pretty reasonable!
If the attacking dogs had been pits, I would have made the detour into the house and grabbed one of the 41s. Our JRT would have probably been dead by the time I intervened, but I would have gotten at least one of the attacking dogs.
I usually end dog issues with the 264 and a 100 gr ballistic tip, but a couple have fallen to the 22-250, and one to the Marlin 1894 in 41 mag. The only times I have used a handgun on a dog have been end of days mercy shots. Even a 17 HMR works there as well as the 327. Actually a 22 lr shot shell to the base of the skull puts a dog down instantly. I have done so with 3 or 4 over the years.
When I lived in California my wife was walking our JRT's one day. All of a sudden I heard this blood curling screaming and my wife pounding on the bedroom window for help. I took off running through the house thing WTF was going on. Went through the garage and picked up my set of escrima sticks and got outside to see the neighbors pit bull chewing the the [bleep] out of 2 of my dogs. I quickly administered a barrage of " stick time" on ole Blue's head. The dumb ass Asian owner came running over to get her dog. Too fuucking late. Ole Blue fuucked with the wrong dog owner. Owner had to pay for all the surgeries for our dogs. Just glad my wife did not get bit. Fuuck pit bulls
If I had a nickel for every time my escrima sticks saved my ass...
Good for you....
You can go all Dog Bros on they azz. If someone tries to hit you w/ a stick or numchuks, or a bat can you shoot them? Enquiring minds want to know. Any dog off the leash is a potential target.
mike r
Yo Rambo,
Please elaborate on how you would handle a situation when your sound asleep, hear horrific screams, dogs fighting, and you have seconds to wake up, get your [bleep] together, assume what is happening and diffuse the situation as quickly as possibly.
Please enlighten me on your ways....
Hopefully you learned you should of had a gun or two with you. I leave a 9mm in my britches next to my side of the bed and have a 10mm on my night stand. Never leave your home without a gun, this could of went very bad, you never know what your going to run into these days. Your buddy looks like it's saying why me what did I do to deserve this.
You've missed the big picture....
1. In bed sleeping from working many hours. 2. Woke up from wife screaming, pounding on window, dogs fighting.
3. Timer starts...... 4. Clueless as to what is really happening. 5. Run like a mother fuucker through the house, into the garage, to the outdoors. 6. See sticks on bench. Pick them up. 7. Proceed to beat the fuuck out of the dog that is chewing your dogs up. 8. Diffuse assualt quickly. 9. My dogs life is saved and pit bull is stopped. 10. This all happens in a very short time span. 11. Discharging a firearm in Huntington Beach California would get messy. 12. One again... every second matters. 13. Curious as to what you all would have done?
I will just leave this here. I went down and talked to the owner of the cow dogs the next day. The one I smacked had hardly even a knot on his head. His owner had not even noticed any damage.
If I was forced to choose a blunt instrument to thwart dog attacks, it would be about four feet of 1 1/4 inch schedule 40 galvanized pipe with a pipe cap on each end and five pounds of lead poured into it.
I will just leave this here. I went down and talked to the owner of the cow dogs the next day. The one I smacked had hardly even a knot on his head. His owner had not even noticed any damage.
If I was forced to choose a blunt instrument to thwart dog attacks, it would be about four feet of 1 1/4 inch schedule 40 galvanized pipe with a pipe cap on each end and five pounds of lead poured into it.
I like pit bulls and have had a number of them through the years. My last one was Ruby, and I had to put her down a few months ago at 14 years old. She saved my wife's life when my last Catahoula turned on her for some unknown reason. We've had 3 Catahoula Leopard dogs that I put down because they got to aggressive and we couldn't control them, I won't give that breed any more chances. No more big dogs for us were planning on traveling and been thinking about a Jack Russell or some other kind of ankle biter.
Dang! I hate to hear that about your Catahoulas. We have one now that is a great family dog.
They are great dogs but get really possessive with age. Why Gumbo turned on my wife is anyone's guess, she's an animal lover and has been attacked 3 different times by dogs. All 3 of our Catahoulas would bite if you got out of your vehicle in our yard, sometimes, no growling or barking just bite the heck out of someone. It got to the point where you had to chain them if someone drove into the yard because you never knew what was going to happen.
I will just leave this here. I went down and talked to the owner of the cow dogs the next day. The one I smacked had hardly even a knot on his head. His owner had not even noticed any damage.
If I was forced to choose a blunt instrument to thwart dog attacks, it would be about four feet of 1 1/4 inch schedule 40 galvanized pipe with a pipe cap on each end and five pounds of lead poured into it.
A golf club will easily kill a dog and makes a good walking stick.
I will just leave this here. I went down and talked to the owner of the cow dogs the next day. The one I smacked had hardly even a knot on his head. His owner had not even noticed any damage.
If I was forced to choose a blunt instrument to thwart dog attacks, it would be about four feet of 1 1/4 inch schedule 40 galvanized pipe with a pipe cap on each end and five pounds of lead poured into it.
Apparently your striking ability is substandard.
I'll leave that here..
Yep, that is why the 2 1/2 inch tree limb broke over the dog's head. But it was just a cottonwood limb. Not like it was oak or hickory.
I like pit bulls and have had a number of them through the years. My last one was Ruby, and I had to put her down a few months ago at 14 years old. She saved my wife's life when my last Catahoula turned on her for some unknown reason. We've had 3 Catahoula Leopard dogs that I put down because they got to aggressive and we couldn't control them, I won't give that breed any more chances. No more big dogs for us were planning on traveling and been thinking about a Jack Russell or some other kind of ankle biter.
Dang! I hate to hear that about your Catahoulas. We have one now that is a great family dog.
They are great dogs but get really possessive with age. Why Gumbo turned on my wife is anyone's guess, she's an animal lover and has been attacked 3 different times by dogs. All 3 of our Catahoulas would bite if you got out of your vehicle in our yard, sometimes, no growling or barking just bite the heck out of someone. It got to the point where you had to chain them if someone drove into the yard because you never knew what was going to happen.
Our Catahoula is reserved with strangers, but will warm up in a bit. She really doesn’t like to be pet/handled by anyone. I like to aggravate her a bit, by petting and messing with her. She knows that I am just teasing her. She is the most playful dog that I have ever seen. She constantly wants to either play tug of war, fetch, or play fight. I have pushed her temperment quite a bit, yet she won’t bite. She loves us all, and we are HER family. With the exception of one other dog (another female), she’s is great with other dogs too. It would break our hearts if she ever developed a temperament problem.
If I was forced to choose a blunt instrument to thwart dog attacks, it would be about four feet of 1 1/4 inch schedule 40 galvanized pipe with a pipe cap on each end and five pounds of lead poured into it.
Used to be when I walked the dogs I would carry a 40lb bag of deer corn in a backpack and a six foot iron pipe with an end cap screwed on at each end, weighed about nine pounds. I was into reenacting and carried it to mimic the feel of a longrifle.
I kinda sucked for anything else, too heavy and clumsy to make a useful walking stick, and a bit slow and clumsy on account of its weight when swung or jabbed like potential weapon.
Skip the lead in that 4ft billy club and try it as-is first.
I remember many years ago, a friend was on the City Council of a nearby town. They had a trustee in from the local prison, a convicted burglar. He spoke at length from his personal experience on how to prevent burglaries.
One councilman spoke up and stated that no burglar was going to bother his house because he had a big guard dog. The burglar smiled slightly and responded that a big dog does not bother him.He wraps a jacket around his left arm and carries a two foot steel rod in his right hand. Doggie gets to chew on the jacket just long enough for a good swing with the right hand. No more doggy!
He told the council, the ones they really hated were the little yappy ankle biters that would hide out of reach under the bed and raise holy hell.
I used to think that when I swam in the lake, if I wore socks, the creature beneath would get them socks instead of me. Countermeasures against the creature from the black lagoon.
Anyone has experience or first hand knowledge if OC spray will stop a Pit before it latches on to another dog?
Wife carries spray just for this reason...I got her a Gunfighters Inc chest holster for her Glock 17 so she could defend herself and our mutt from an attack.
She’s a total chic insert (dumb) when she says it’s easier to grab OC spray and hit the trails than putting on her holster.
Done fighting with her about it...If I’m walking the dog alone or with the wife, I’m carrying a Glock 20 in the same holster - no spray.
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Beaver,
I have no first hand experience with OC and canines. But, several years ago I read an interesting research paper that was done on the effectiveness of pepper spray on canines, and from what I remember it was mostly effective. However, on a certain percentage of dogs, it caused even higher levels of aggression. If I recall correctly, the study claimed that pit bulls were more likely to go into a rage when sprayed than other breeds.
I'd imagine that research paper is still floating around, if you were inclined to search for it.
Why do people try to run, or pull away during a dog attack? Shove a fist down the dog's throat, grab the base of its tongue, and choke it to death. Yes, your arm might get chewed up, but a dog that can't breathe won't bite for long. Getting its tongue ripped out by the roots has a tendency to take the fight out of a dog, also, no matter how big or powerful it happens to be. Jerry
Why do people try to run, or pull away during a dog attack? Shove a fist down the dog's throat, grab the base of its tongue, and choke it to death. Yes, your arm might get chewed up, but a dog that can't breathe won't bite for long. Getting its tongue ripped out by the roots has a tendency to take the fight out of a dog, also, no matter how big or powerful it happens to be. Jerry
Lmao you ever seen a real dog fight or attack?
My boys aren’t human aggressive at all but I’m fairly confident you couldn’t rip their tongues out if you were holding a pair of channel locks.
Used to be a meter reader that sprayed my Dalmatians, Dept electricity. Not sure what it was but after that I had my meter installed out on the highway. A “CT Disconnect meter they call it
30 years ago, I'd have been willing to take on any dog that walks with my bare hands............
Uhhh, yeah.
If you say so, Grins
Toot how do you think i took care of mine when he attacked, all i had was my hands.
lol oh si ol' Petecito got took care of but good. Pair of rubbery chew toys in spicy gringo flavor with iron gravy centers. This result--48 sutures and metallic hardware additions vs a sore neck-- is a total TX win!
Because most people become overcome with fear, and those not scared to near death are enraged. Few can remain rational in such circumstances.
My closest experience was an enraged 300 lb sow pig which came over the fence while I was castrating her babies. She hit me in the chest and knocked me straight down onto my back. There I was with 300 lb of pig straddling me trying to eat my face and throat.
I very consciously shoved my left arm in her mouth to protect my face. I was wearing a heavy down coat, which got torn to shreds. But I only suffered a few minor scratches before one of the baby pigs came running past and momma pig decided she was more interested in chasing down the baby than in eating me.
Also, Roger can tell us about the damaged caused by letting a big dog get even a bit of your hand in his mouth. It is hard to get a good grip on anything when the bones in your fingers have been crushed to smithereens.
Because most people become overcome with fear, and those not scared to near death are enraged. Few can remain rational in such circumstances.
My closest experience was an enraged 300 lb sow pig which came over the fence while I was castrating her babies. She hit me in the chest and knocked me straight down onto my back. There I was with 300 lb of pig straddling me trying to eat my face and throat.
I very consciously shoved my left arm in her mouth to protect my face. I was wearing a heavy down coat, which got torn to shreds. But I only suffered a few minor scratches before one of the baby pigs came running past and momma pig decided she was more interested in chasing down the baby than in eating me.
Also, Roger can tell us about the damaged caused by letting a big dog get even a bit of your hand in his mouth. It is hard to get a good grip on anything when the bones in your fingers have been crushed to smithereens.
Quick summary: pit turned on his owner, mangled his paws, broke off attack and next day was hauled away by CC animal control and given the pink fluid ticket to the happy barrio in the sky. Gotta' love a sweet ending...
Because most people become overcome with fear, and those not scared to near death are enraged. Few can remain rational in such circumstances.
My closest experience was an enraged 300 lb sow pig which came over the fence while I was castrating her babies. She hit me in the chest and knocked me straight down onto my back. There I was with 300 lb of pig straddling me trying to eat my face and throat.
I very consciously shoved my left arm in her mouth to protect my face. I was wearing a heavy down coat, which got torn to shreds. But I only suffered a few minor scratches before one of the baby pigs came running past and momma pig decided she was more interested in chasing down the baby than in eating me.
Why do people try to run, or pull away during a dog attack? Shove a fist down the dog's throat, grab the base of its tongue, and choke it to death. Yes, your arm might get chewed up, but a dog that can't breathe won't bite for long. Getting its tongue ripped out by the roots has a tendency to take the fight out of a dog, also, no matter how big or powerful it happens to be. Jerry
Lmao you ever seen a real dog fight or attack?
My boys aren’t human aggressive at all but I’m fairly confident you couldn’t rip their tongues out if you were holding a pair of channel locks.
it worked for me qs far as keeping from getting my throat your not pulling its tongue out but you have the leverage to pin the dog.
Because most people become overcome with fear, and those not scared to near death are enraged. Few can remain rational in such circumstances.
My closest experience was an enraged 300 lb sow pig which came over the fence while I was castrating her babies. She hit me in the chest and knocked me straight down onto my back. There I was with 300 lb of pig straddling me trying to eat my face and throat.
I very consciously shoved my left arm in her mouth to protect my face. I was wearing a heavy down coat, which got torn to shreds. But I only suffered a few minor scratches before one of the baby pigs came running past and momma pig decided she was more interested in chasing down the baby than in eating me.
Because most people become overcome with fear, and those not scared to near death are enraged. Few can remain rational in such circumstances.
My closest experience was an enraged 300 lb sow pig which came over the fence while I was castrating her babies. She hit me in the chest and knocked me straight down onto my back. There I was with 300 lb of pig straddling me trying to eat my face and throat.
I very consciously shoved my left arm in her mouth to protect my face. I was wearing a heavy down coat, which got torn to shreds. But I only suffered a few minor scratches before one of the baby pigs came running past and momma pig decided she was more interested in chasing down the baby than in eating me.
This is what college was like for me too.
Looked better with alcohol?
Ah, don't know about that. I was still virgin when I got done with College. I was a sweet, shy, farm boy.
Anyone has experience or first hand knowledge if OC spray will stop a Pit before it latches on to another dog?
Wife carries spray just for this reason...I got her a Gunfighters Inc chest holster for her Glock 17 so she could defend herself and our mutt from an attack.
She’s a total chic insert (dumb) when she says it’s easier to grab OC spray and hit the trails than putting on her holster.
Done fighting with her about it...If I’m walking the dog alone or with the wife, I’m carrying a Glock 20 in the same holster - no spray.
😎
Beaver,
I have no first hand experience with OC and canines. But, several years ago I read an interesting research paper that was done on the effectiveness of pepper spray on canines, and from what I remember it was mostly effective. However, on a certain percentage of dogs, it caused even higher levels of aggression. If I recall correctly, the study claimed that pit bulls were more likely to go into a rage when sprayed than other breeds.
I'd imagine that research paper is still floating around, if you were inclined to search for it.
Jason
Figures a pit would absorb OC like shots of tequila and get more pissed.
What's the backup plan if the pistol malfunctions and one arm getd locked in its jaws in a struggle?
you'd probably die if you don't know what you'd do.
Plan Z:gonad tickles.
According to an old joke if the attack occurs in the park and the pit bull is accompanied by a Black person with a handgun, you use your gorilla and the shotgun.
Also, if Rotts could take out Pits with regularity, you'd see the dog-fighting rings all using Rotts. They're using Pits due to their results, not due to their reputation.
Much in the same way that, if a 2020 Escalade could take out a 1990 Subaru wagon with regularity, you'd see more new Escalades in the demolition derby.
Totally ridiculous example......
Not so much.
You wanna think on it for a while ?? Or shall someone explain it to you ??
If your the one not being attacked but breaking it up, grab both back legs on the pit and walk backwards, dogs dont have any control when controlled like this. Now what to do when you stop walking backwards
If your the one not being attacked but breaking it up grab both back legs on the pit and walk backwards, dogs dont have any control when controlled like this. Now what to do when you stop walking backwards
If your the one not being attacked but breaking it up grab both back legs on the pit and walk backwards, dogs dont have any control when controlled like this. Now what to do when you stop walking backwards
We went to Williamson county animal shelter years ago to adopt a female German Shepard. We took our little Min Pin with to introduce them. Bad idea. That GS grabbed the little dog (lucky she had a thick collar on) by the back of the neck. I couldn’t spread that dogs jaws, if I recall I think I punched its nose. I thought about driving a tanto point into its lungs though.
If your the one not being attacked but breaking it up grab both back legs on the pit and walk backwards, dogs dont have any control when controlled like this. Now what to do when you stop walking backwards
Walked a lot if hogs out of the woods that way when we use to sell them live.
If your the one not being attacked but breaking it up grab both back legs on the pit and walk backwards, dogs dont have any control when controlled like this. Now what to do when you stop walking backwards
Anyone has experience or first hand knowledge if OC spray will stop a Pit before it latches on to another dog?
Wife carries spray just for this reason...I got her a Gunfighters Inc chest holster for her Glock 17 so she could defend herself and our mutt from an attack.
She’s a total chic insert (dumb) when she says it’s easier to grab OC spray and hit the trails than putting on her holster.
Done fighting with her about it...If I’m walking the dog alone or with the wife, I’m carrying a Glock 20 in the same holster - no spray.
😎
BeaverCleaver,
I have sprayed at least a dozen dogs and it is very effective. It blinds them, fugks up their olfactory something fierce, and if nothing else it will give you time to get away.
When I lived in South Texas (total schit hole) it was common for dogs to be off leash. Certain houses had certain dogs that would burst out of their yards when I ran. After this happening once or twice I formulated a genius plan. I would run with the OC in my hand and cruise by certain houses. Like clock work they would bust out and that's when I'd turn on the jets. This ups their drive so they really get up tight to your heels. There's a bit of timing involved but once they're close enough you just cut loose with that schit. Keep in mind they're huffing and sucking through their mouth at this point.
They fugking HOWL. I've even had chihuaha's barrel roll forward as they yip and whine. If you ran by that house again, rest assured the dogs don't come after you again. I always liked to think they went back into their owner's homes and rubbed that schit all over the house as well. I literally cured an entire side of the town I lived in of dogs chasing people.
Another time (different state) I had a neighbor that bought two dogs. One was a Mastiff and the other a Rott. These fugking things would come to the fence every time I went outside and bark and drool and try to get over the chain link fence. The owners were good people but they just couldn't manage these fuggin' dogs. So one day I went and stood at the fence and here they come, going fugkin' crazy. I tried to let them sniff my hand so they would calm down and end this fugkin' charade but they wouldn't have it. Just kept chomping and snipping and barking. So I took the can of bear spray I had in my back pocket and hosed the every living schit out of those slobbering fugks.
They never came within 5' of that little chain link fence ever again. If I looked them in the eye they would both bow their heads and look away. Believe me, it fugks them up.
If your wife is running with it she should keep it in her hand. She won't have time to fumble around and get it out of a holster.
Had one of my hounds attacked by a pit bull 2 weeks ago, dog went through the screen door while walking my dog with one thing in his mind, my dog. He came out and bit onto my dogs back hams and wouldnt let go untill I drop kicked the SOB in the throat, then he staggered off turned around and I fogged him down with a 10 second burst of bear mace, that ended it, next would have been the sig 220, anti pitbull suppressor. Owner ended up paying the $241 vet bill for my dog. Biggest problem now is that dog attack once and more likely again, might be a kid next time
gemby,
I might be misremembering but weren't you the guy that ran a problem dog down on the side of the road?
I remember somebody telling that story on here and it was fuggin' hilarious.
Had one of my hounds attacked by a pit bull 2 weeks ago, dog went through the screen door while walking my dog with one thing in his mind, my dog. He came out and bit onto my dogs back hams and wouldnt let go untill I drop kicked the SOB in the throat, then he staggered off turned around and I fogged him down with a 10 second burst of bear mace, that ended it, next would have been the sig 220, anti pitbull suppressor. Owner ended up paying the $241 vet bill for my dog. Biggest problem now is that dog attack once and more likely again, might be a kid next time
Another pit discouraged with bear spray, with the three I did with it makes four. Only problem with mine is, since they never actually made contact, how intent they REALLY were remains unknown. They sure LOOKED serious tho. But in ten years walking/running my dogs through bad neighborhoods they never got bit, 'cept briefly by that one rot that snuck up from behind.
I will say this, I not infrequently ran into loose pit bulls, and even most of these were turned back with me shouting and posturing.
Bear spray ain't a substitute for deadly force, but I'm glad this tool was available tho.
That's the best thing about spray.
You never have to find out the dog or bear's intent.
Had one of my hounds attacked by a pit bull 2 weeks ago, dog went through the screen door while walking my dog with one thing in his mind, my dog. He came out and bit onto my dogs back hams and wouldnt let go untill I drop kicked the SOB in the throat, then he staggered off turned around and I fogged him down with a 10 second burst of bear mace, that ended it, next would have been the sig 220, anti pitbull suppressor. Owner ended up paying the $241 vet bill for my dog. Biggest problem now is that dog attack once and more likely again, might be a kid next time
gemby,
I might be misremembering but weren't you the guy that ran a problem dog down on the side of the road?
I remember somebody telling that story on here and it was fuggin' hilarious.
Had one of my hounds attacked by a pit bull 2 weeks ago, dog went through the screen door while walking my dog with one thing in his mind, my dog. He came out and bit onto my dogs back hams and wouldnt let go untill I drop kicked the SOB in the throat, then he staggered off turned around and I fogged him down with a 10 second burst of bear mace, that ended it, next would have been the sig 220, anti pitbull suppressor. Owner ended up paying the $241 vet bill for my dog. Biggest problem now is that dog attack once and more likely again, might be a kid next time
Another pit discouraged with bear spray, with the three I did with it makes four. Only problem with mine is, since they never actually made contact, how intent they REALLY were remains unknown. They sure LOOKED serious tho. But in ten years walking/running my dogs through bad neighborhoods they never got bit, 'cept briefly by that one rot that snuck up from behind.
I will say this, I not infrequently ran into loose pit bulls, and even most of these were turned back with me shouting and posturing.
Bear spray ain't a substitute for deadly force, but I'm glad this tool was available tho.
That's the best thing about spray.
You never have to find out the dog or bear's intent.
In my case it was a white pit and after getting hosed with bear made he was orange till the ower scrubbed it off, the dye must be like the dye that's used in dye packs in money it stays on to it wears off
If your the one not being attacked but breaking it up, grab both back legs on the pit and walk backwards, dogs dont have any control when controlled like this. Now what to do when you stop walking backwards
This is very effective.
When you get the dog broke free of whatever it was chewing on, just keep spinning. Bang it's head off the pavement if you can. Throw it as hard as you can into a wall or tree when you do decide to let go. It disorients the schit out of them and will cause most dogs to stop being aggressive.
If a dog has a leash that can support its weight you can use the same technique.
If your the one not being attacked but breaking it up, grab both back legs on the pit and walk backwards, dogs dont have any control when controlled like this. Now what to do when you stop walking backwards
This is very effective.
When you get the dog broke free of whatever it was chewing on, just keep spinning. Bang it's head off the pavement if you can. Throw it as hard as you can into a wall or tree when you do decide to let go. It disorients the schit out of them and will cause most dogs to stop being aggressive.
If a dog has a leash that can support its weight you can use the same technique.
Had one of my hounds attacked by a pit bull 2 weeks ago, dog went through the screen door while walking my dog with one thing in his mind, my dog. He came out and bit onto my dogs back hams and wouldnt let go untill I drop kicked the SOB in the throat, then he staggered off turned around and I fogged him down with a 10 second burst of bear mace, that ended it, next would have been the sig 220, anti pitbull suppressor. Owner ended up paying the $241 vet bill for my dog. Biggest problem now is that dog attack once and more likely again, might be a kid next time
gemby,
I might be misremembering but weren't you the guy that ran a problem dog down on the side of the road?
I remember somebody telling that story on here and it was fuggin' hilarious.
Wasent me , would like to read that one
Oh man, it was great. I can't remember all the details but basically a dog was terrorizing an area, and a member here saw it on the side of the road one day. So he floored the gas and turned into a hood ornament. Fugk I laughed reading that.
I remember many years back there were 2 boxers running together as and were starting problems around town, I went out back one night to take a piss off the back pourch and once my eyes got adjusted to the night I saw 2 dark blobs about 15' away from me. My son left his paint ball gun sitting on the table, i grab that and went full auto on them, they never crossed my yard again always out in the field. One got hit as and killed by a car
Pitts are stupid and want to fight (kill).Rotts dont so wouldnt be a fight.How hard can this be?
American pit bull terriers have been bred since the second half of the 19th century, for fighting and other purposes, this breed was once considered a symbol of the United States, how come only since some time in the 1980s and 1990s did they get a reputation of this killer dog? Is it magic? Or are Campfire members succumbing to emotional canine hysteria?
The past is another country. Now that the dog breed is a favorite of joggers and other trash, the dog's behavior and reputation goes to heck. Sort of like America: more trash and jogger- and jogger-adjacent americans the more violent and nasty america gets.
0. I sure hope the OP's buddy recovers well. Hope OP can talk some self-defense sense into him, vis a vis firearms.
1. The APBTs I knew in my younger years were good dogs and did their job (catch dog) well.
2. No doubt they were generally more tough than your typical labrador. Some other breeds are more capable of killing an adult human, but APBT are more common and much cheaper to get than, say, Presa Canarios.
3. Then APBT became popular with urban joggers and the usual "give a [bleep] an AK47" results occur.
4. Would not seek one out as a pet. A healthy well-bred (as catch dog) male APBT is still in the 65-75lb range with some terrier characteristics. That is a whole lot of terrier and harder to manage than our inherited 15lb rat terrier.
5. If you really want a bully breed dog, the American Bulldog is a nice alternative. A bit bigger, but no terrier bred into them. The Scott line would be my choice, as I prefer the rangier build.
I was on craigslist a week ago ....could not believe the amount of black lab etc pit cross breeding....sob,s !
To be expected, two of the commonest breeds, one whose urban owners skew irresponsible. Same thing here: 80% of strays were APBT mixes of some sort. If there is one breed I would insist on raising form a pup, it is an APBT. Absolutely do not want an APBT with serious issues from abuse or some such.
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