true, my local shop has one of these 308's as well, there are no bounds to foolishness. The Tavor is short that is a good point, nevertheless I shall stick to my regular DI DD, Colt etc guns I know that they work fine and I know how to make them work....
I've been around a 10" .30-30. They are exceedingly unpleasant. a 8.5" .308 would be Uber unpleasant
Not unpleasent at all. Remember the 30/30 is loaded with much slower powder than the 300BO. I have an 8.5" 300BO and it's a very mild report.
