I like the 264 also, but IMO, for deer, a good 125 or 130gr is plenty and the recoil is even less than with 140s.

I also agree that there is MUCH overlap in performance with a lot of cartridges, and one could, if blindfolded, not tell the difference in the field. Didn't "someone" say "Boolits is more important than headstamps" grin