Sorry I caused all the bickering. Let me say that I hunt the mountains of northern PA and I figured why carry a heavier gun than I have too. I'm not getting any younger and this was a good excuse to buy a gun. And, Whittaker's helped a little bit, too. Now I just need a decent scope to go with it. I used Leupolds all of my life but like the ruggedness of the NF. Actually thought about just sticking a 4X on it as that's really all I need. But it is nice to have the option of turning up the power.