Ed, Was over at the gun range this morning, testing some 45-70 loads, that I down loaded trying to reduce the recoil some but still have a good load.the 420gr. hard cast shoot almost 1 hole at 50 yrds and under 1" at 100 yrds I'm happy with that. those little hole diggin ground gophers were all over the place, so I thought I would do a penetration test, like I said I think the 420gr. is a bit much. Rio7
