I guess one thing that sort of stands out to me with the qdma types is I see all of these comments about shooting all of these cull deer spikes , fork horns, and dozens of does etc over a 3 month long season using extra management permits like it's just a chore they have to do just to manage their herd then they stand around clucking their tongue at somebody that lives in a state with short seasons and is happy to get one or two deer each year big or small. I'd be more impressed if they had to use their one antlered deer tag and one doe tag to improve their herd then leave the field but frankly using feeders to lure deer in, then getting extra management or depredation permits is a bit disgenuine imho.