Color me confused. I've shot a bunch of these through my .308, 26" barrel, 46.5 gr of Varget. Forget speed right now, but great little groups. One deer had no lungs and guts blown out of a hole in the bottom. The next deer I shot fell instantly, about 30 seconds apart, almost same shot placement. An antelope this year was shot through the lungs, a little on the back end and blew her guts out all over the place. Both were recovered, but I hate seeing them run a little bit with guts hanging out, then lay down and not present a shot. Not sure what I'm doing wrong of if I just have some bad luck. I've got two boxes of 1000, tips look different, one is a wider aperture than the other.few I've reached out to Kevin at Nammo/Lapua and he originally said he'd send the pics to his guys in Sweden, but hasn't been heard from since, despite a few reminder emails. I may be selling quite a few here shortly, although they are fun to practice with as they are great target punchers.