My 7mm RM has a shilen bbl at 24" and was installed by an expert so I know at a minimum that the chamber is clean (was reamed with a good, spec, reamer). that said, I am not really into experimenting with loads these days and I really do not want to push the limits with sticky bolts and flattened primers.

that said, I know the 7mm will do just about anyting the 270 w will do and maybe more.

still, I like the idea of buying a box of 270 wby 130s and go hunt. will really come down to if I feel like spending the money and if I really want a 270w.

I was at walmart last pm and I looked at their rifle book. I found that the vanguard is available in the 257 wby but not the 270 so the idea of buying a vanguard in 270 is not in the cards.

time will tell if this itch needs to be scratched.

I still like the idea of a speedy 277 and I have the 300 mag for anything bigger (not that I have any plans to hunt elks any time soon)