Originally Posted by comerade
Ditto, for the Elk client/ dude hunters at my time.
I paticipated in horror as a "Dude hunter" fresh from killing a Polar bear in Northern Canada showed up in our camp- and killed large Shiras bulls ,yes two , the first day was an example of rapid fire , unrestrained shooting and I attempted to stop him. He emptied the magazine and my little needle gun was used to finish the messy little outing.
He shot both, I was forced to use my personal Moose tag to legitamize the shooting spree.
It took me two days to pack out both bodies and the cape and antlers for hir prize.
This was his 27th or 28th animal on Safari Club's list
So somehow he was awarded a ribbon or plaque for his great achievment.
This man was not a hunter, paid no attention to the mountains or other wildlife. This was in the spectular West slope of Rocky mountains . He also didn't like camp.
The rifle was some fancy grade 375 H&H that he had previously used on the bear. He told me the bear hunt was quite a dull experience and glad it was over.
Safari Club has been stuck in my craw from the day onward
* the 375 is a wonderful round and perhaps if he would of agreed to checking its zero it would of helped somewhat.

Have seen quite a few hunters who can't handle a .375 H&H's recoil, mostly in Africa but also elsewhere. But they often won't admit it--or even realize it. One illuminating hunt was a month-long cull in South Africa, where I hunted with a dozen other guys, who came in two groups of six hunters, each staying two weeks.

Many of them brought both a "light" rifle--chambered for rounds from the .270 Winchester to the .325 Winchester Shot Magnum, and a bigger rifle, chambered for rounds from the .300 Winchester Magnum to the .375 H&H for larger plains game, though two guys also hunted Cape buffalo, and one of them used a .416 Remington Magnum. (His light rifle was a .308 Winchester.)

The majority of them started flinching with their larger rifle, partly because we were shooting a lot of animals, both culls and trophies. One guy brought a 7mm-08 and a .300 Winchester Magnum, and put the .300 aside after a few days--and still managed to take tougher, larger plains game cleanly with the 7mm-08. Another guy brought two rifles in the same pair of chamberings I did, the 7x57 and 9.3x62--and put the 9.3 aside after a few days, after realizing he was flinching.

One guy brought the .325 WSM for plains game, and a .375 H&H for his buffalo. But the 220-grain Power Point factory loads didn't penetrate enough on the larger plains game, and he ended using the .375 on everything--and very well. But have found that sort of shooter relatively rare....


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