I'm not arguing specific numbers. The type of shooter you're talking about is the equivilant of, and in some cases, is, an olympic shooter. They have no life outside of shooting. If not for the unarmed martial arts I'd be perfectly happy shooting like that. Of course, my wife would divorce me after about a month of that type of devotion to anything but her or our children, and I'm not sure even the kids would qualify for that kind of devotion. I'll tell you this; I don't believe a man who has children has any business shooting at the level you're talking about, even if he can afford it.